iTz PaYBacK Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Airight here is my problem. i have my homemade ink that concise of alcohol and a proper ratio of ink paper mate pens. my issue with this is that does not stain hard at all and is easily remove by a alcohol soaked rag. what i have Ive done wrong and what can i add to improve my ink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeahnation Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 You've come across the hard truth... There is no such thing as unbuffable ink. Any ink that you make can be buffed with whatever base your ink consists of... that's just how it works. But, there are other ways to increase the staining ability of your ink. First, you could just add more pens to your mix. Maybe the ratio you're using is too thin. You can tell the thickness of your ink by the color. A light purple is very light. A solid purple is medium. A seemingly black ink with a purplish tint to it is strongest a simple pen ink mix can be. A more elaborate way of making your ink thicker would be to heat it up and add more pens. The ink will dissolve quicker into the ink, and some of the base of your ink will evaporate, making an even thicker and more concentrated ink. A more professional way to increase the staining power of your ink is to do what great ink creators like DED and Oink do. They take stainers like Gentian Violet and Methylene Blue (in the powder forms) and add them to their inks in a fairly elaborate process. They also do a number of other things to their ink that I know nothing about, or else I'd be making ink like theirs and getting rich off of it. What I suggest you do is buy Pilot ink and add it to your mix. Pilot black is a great, black, cheap ink that stains hard and will make your ink mix a lot better. If you thicken your current mix and add Pilot, you should notice a huge difference. You can pick Pilot ink up at most arts and crafts stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iTz PaYBacK Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 You've come across the hard truth... There is no such thing as unbuffable ink. Any ink that you make can be buffed with whatever base your ink consists of... that's just how it works. But, there are other ways to increase the staining ability of your ink. First, you could just add more pens to your mix. Maybe the ratio you're using is too thin. You can tell the thickness of your ink by the color. A light purple is very light. A solid purple is medium. A seemingly black ink with a purplish tint to it is strongest a simple pen ink mix can be. A more elaborate way of making your ink thicker would be to heat it up and add more pens. The ink will dissolve quicker into the ink, and some of the base of your ink will evaporate, making an even thicker and more concentrated ink. A more professional way to increase the staining power of your ink is to do what great ink creators like DED and Oink do. They take stainers like Gentian Violet and Methylene Blue (in the powder forms) and add them to their inks in a fairly elaborate process. They also do a number of other things to their ink that I know nothing about, or else I'd be making ink like theirs and getting rich off of it. What I suggest you do is buy Pilot ink and add it to your mix. Pilot black is a great, black, cheap ink that stains hard and will make your ink mix a lot better. If you thicken your current mix and add Pilot, you should notice a huge difference. You can pick Pilot ink up at most arts and crafts stores. aight thanks man. where can i get the gentain vileot and methylene blue from, and what ratio should i use with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEWILDONE Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 this is my ink i make looks like this when it gets buffed you cant buff it it stains and smears if you would like the recipe let me know...this is also another color you can make this ink in any color it runs in mops and markers... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatmadcatdaily Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 this is my ink i make looks like this when it gets buffed you cant buff it it stains and smears if you would like the recipe let me know...this is also another color you can make this ink in any color it runs in mops and markers... Hook it up man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 rusto chain link fence paint.. http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=202041179&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_sku=202041179&ci_src=14110944&cm_mmc=shopping-_-googlebase-_-D24X-_-202041179 anyone tried it? or should one just stick to chrome shit kills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willgood Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Anyone had any experience mixing Garvey and Molotow Coversall ink? I know garvey and marsh mix well but im not sure if marsh is alcohol based or not. Good lookin' out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazman Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 shit kills hell yea, its made to stick to metal and withstand the elements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatmadcatdaily Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 yay or nay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rush2 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 they stoped making it I used to use it alot and its pretty nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yourname Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Okay... I know alot of things have been said before, and yes, i did read alot of this thread allready, and searched within this thread for help on my "problem". Also, my English sucks ass, it's not my 1st or my 2nd language. However, advice is needed. I have about 50 new toners for printers. I cracked a few open and collected the powder. The best thing i can get my hands on right now to mix it with is nailpolish remover. It does NOT have aceton in it, it consists of ethyl acetate, alcohol and water. someone said " it has to have a copolymer base in the toner". How to figure out if i got the right toner? The box does not say anything about ingredients. All the toners are for canon and HP machines, most of them are originals. I got so many i really want to use it for something. I have been mixing the toner with the nailpolish remover, and it seems to blend very well. However, it's not really dark, like it needs more toner. My question: Could this be because i need some other stuff to mix it with, or because i didn't add enough toner? Or something else? someone in this thread said "also a cartridge of toner should make out about a gallon of ink." I believe a gallon is about 2,5 liters.... i can't make a liter of good ink from 3 toners. I think i'm fucking shit up. Another question: Any idea what kinda ink this is? I got a few bottles from a friend, and it stains very well. The only one i am not happy with is the black ink, so i am thinking about putting some toner with it to make it more black. It smells so toxic i am not sure if it's alcohol based. It sure as hell isn't oil based. Any help here? Oh and one more thing. I have bought all kinds of ink... from corio to krink to grog, mrBlack. I must say this is by far the most black ink i have ever used. I don't know about buffing... but it is black as hell and stay like that in the sun. Thinck, and has good drips. Good one, but shit expensive. like 18euro for 250ml, in the country next to where it's made. You can add alcohol and thin it up 33% without shit getting too dippy, and it's still very black and sun-proof. http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8972/4391565413de16e17834b.jpg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rush2 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Toners are mixed with Polymers. (symilar to PVA and ones in acrylic paint).. ive had troubles with these in the past. but the pigments are quite decent. Take your toner.. take a miture of 1/5 alcohol to 4/5 water.. mix it as best as you can.. and microwave.. ionising and heating till all moisture is gone.. repeat this twice.. then there you go. usable. __________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|O__________o|-robojones Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 it looks like industrial grade ink used mostly in factories . try using a bit on a sticker..ups and if it rubs on thick and takes off the first layer of paper and bleeds dont mix that shit with anything cept xylene ,denatured alcohol or rit dyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUGR Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Also, my English sucks ass Your written English is better than most on this site. :eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stixupkids Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Freight series deck giveaway. check http://www.stixfigure.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walalala Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 BUMP. :p Alright so i bought some Pilot ink (it said 'refill, for marking pens only, not for fountain pen use) KIWI Leather (it didn't say Leather dye or anything, just Leather) So i mixed that up and put it into my mop. It turned up nice and thick, so i tried adding some rubbing alcohol to make it thinner. Then it turned out too thin. And then by then, i noticed the ink i made in my jar was thickening up, so i added some alcohol to it. But it just kept thickening. Now my ink is just sludgy. =| i tried shaking it up and mixing it around, but nothing worked; it just flowed off the sides of the jar in masses. (no stain) any ideas? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pew_Pew_Pew Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Drink it. Then it will work. :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nove.. Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 anyone used Bitumen before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walalala Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 okay so for some reason i can't edit my post, so i'll just post another one. The KIWI i have also says 'extra shine'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingcarpet Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Kiwi polish sucks. Get some fiebings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8galicia Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 g3t s0m3 kR1nK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rush2 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 anyone used Bitumen before? dope shit make it to the guy asking about the pilol/kiwi its because the pilot is xylene based and kiwi is water when you mixed it it congeled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jαm//wαttle Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 i took a white mop once n added some ashes in there.. made a dope gray THOUGHT U MITE LIKE TO KNO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walalala Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Kiwi polish sucks. Get some fiebings. where i live we dont have that. =| ...to the guy asking about the pilol/kiwi its because the pilot is xylene based and kiwi is water when you mixed it it congeled thanks for the info man. (Y) so what should i do then to make my own ink? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pew_Pew_Pew Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Search this thread, there are some ink recipes. Hint: It starts with about a million bic pens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingcarpet Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Little recipe of mine 100mL of Red Grog 50mL of Blue Grog 25mL of Black Oink 25mL of Garvey Violet 70mL of Shellac Clear 40mL of Carbon Powder 50mL of Wood Hardener Shit doesn't fade and stains hard. 4 layers of Osh White spraypaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkingcarpet Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 where i live we dont have that. =| thanks for the info man. (Y) so what should i do then to make my own ink? :confused: To make your own. Either Get a shitload of pens and some rubbing alcohol or pvc primer. or Get a little can of rusto oil based paint or tremclad if your from canada then thin it down with paint thinner, pvc primer, or wood hardener. Add some shellac for shine. Some gentian violet for stain. And carbon powder with some shellac for more shine and to make it fade resistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitefight Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 does brake fluid help stain just heard about it never used it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMASHMOP Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Any good chrome recipes? I've tried to make ghetto krink but I'm looking for something better. I live in Australia so I might not be able to get certain ingredients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADERnj Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Little recipe of mine 100mL of Red Grog 50mL of Blue Grog 25mL of Black Oink 25mL of Garvey Violet 70mL of Shellac Clear 40mL of Carbon Powder 50mL of Wood Hardener Shit doesn't fade and stains hard. 4 layers of Osh White spraypaint y dont u get some oil based primer called cover stain..takes out ne ink.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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