KILZ FILLZ Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 They claim responsibility too sheeeit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I'm seeing mixed use of "missiles " and "rockets." Will definitely affect the outcome. I feel sick about this. Completely predictable. Good joes are going to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Seems its missiles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 BOTH sides need to tone this shit the fuck down right now. I'm so pissed on so many fucking levels it's not even funny. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Dunno what theyre thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Theyre so fucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/world/middleeast/iran-plane-crash-boeing-ukraine.html?searchResultPosition=3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Awfully coincidental that a technical issue with a passenger plane headed for the Ukraine crashes just outside Tehran.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Iran just got hit with two earthquakes, these motherfuckers might have just got flexed on extra hard. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Its not a War Crime if its by natural disaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 From what i just saw it was near a nuclear power plant too... awfully coincidental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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abrasivesaint Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 The more i think about it the more i dont think those base attacks were complete incompetence. I think they wanted to show their people they did something without killing Americans and truly escalating this further like the media is pushing. Could be wrong. I’m not buying it at the moment though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 Well shit, spend the day behind the wheel and come on line to find Iran has launched ballistic missiles against the US and claimed it. Interesting part was that they actually bombed Iraq (unsure if those bases were regarded as US sovereign territory but it's hardly relevant in this case). What is the Iraqi govt saying about Iran bombing their country and (overtly) killing people in their country? It forces the US to escalate, the US threatened to attack Iran proper if they retaliated, which would be a massively disproportionate response.But Trump made the threat, he won't want to look weak in an election year. This is all really fucked and I'm hating it. John was the former senior foreign affairs advisor to our Foreign Minister: John Lee @J_B_C16 It may sound trite, but personal connections can humanise another society when engaged in abstract discussions about whether to bomb the crap out of it. One of the nicest people I know in London is Iranian, her involvement in this crisis is just to hope that her family don't die. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Regards the Ukrainian flight, I'd be reluctant to jump to any conclusions now. The flight was full of Iranians, Canadians and Ukrainians, no obvious reason to drop it from anyone's perspective. Also, recall the flight that went down in Queens, NYC just days after the 9/11 attacks. That was not an attack, just a plane crash. So it's entirely possible for planes to drop in the middle of a crisis and still be 'natural causes', so to speak. Also entirely possible that it was deliberately downed as well, MH17 is the example to cite here. Just too little info now that I'm aware of that allows a conclusion to be made. Edited January 8, 2020 by Hua Guofang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 Wait, nobody died?! That gives Washington a bit of an off ramp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Gives everyone a bit of an off ramp, haha. At least “officially.” Who knows what will come from militia or terrorist groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) This would be a huge win for Trump if it doesn’t escalate from here. The “terrorist” is dead and he didn’t start a war.. I can hear the hoots, hollers, and yeehaws already. Edited January 8, 2020 by abrasivesaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 YEEEEHAWWWWW!!!!! Even if nobody died, they still destroyed US assets. You can't just break my toys and expect to not be missing some teeth afterwards.... because I'm a "nice guy". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 @misteraven- in response, I Was being pretty self indulgent with my response. Of course the website is not fucked, I still come here and still post away. Although, I do think there isn't much appetite for questioning assumptions and reading information. It's more about picking a position because you like it and defending it regardless of what is put in front of you. It's also apparently bad to say you don't have a position on something because you don't know enough about it or question others on their positions. IF you come up with something that undermines some one else's position, you get accused of posting fake news, etc. There's not a lot of good faith discussion here, to be honest. Although, as much as @Mercerand I annoy each other I think discussions with him are worthwhile because it's an actual discussion, not an effort to win internet points and name calling. Anyway, enough whingy complainy from me. I want to ask you why you think the right/conservatives are the underdog when they are in control in: - the US - Australia - the UK - Brazil - Poland - Hungary - Turkey - Sweden - Philippines and are on the ascent in so many other countries such as France, Netherlands, Denmark, etc. etc. You will find that conservative media are usually the highest rating of the traditional mediums in these countries as well. Of course, we may debate what right/conservative means as I tend to focus more on the social element and you likely focus on the economic and small govt perspectives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Dirty_habiT said: YEEEEHAWWWWW!!!!! Even if nobody died, they still destroyed US assets. You can't just break my toys and expect to not be missing some teeth afterwards.... because I'm a "nice guy". True, but that kind of stuff can be addressed by sanctions and/or a little bit of destruction back via cyber or something less kinetic. If that's the response then I'd say that Washington is keen to de-escalate whilst they're ahead, which would be a smart and successful play. Although, the Ayatollah signaled that there will be some asymmetric attacks by way of Hezbollah or similar actors. Not sure the Iranian response has run its course yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Oh yeah, I mean I kinda agree. I'm not sure what the "proper" response is.... but Trump made it pretty fucking clear that if they retaliate he's going to make sure they get fucked up. I don't think we're talking about defacing a few Iranian websites here. I do like the idea of earthquakes "naturally" destroying all their precious nuclear shit though. That could just be the higher powers telling them to settle the fuck down before you get fucked up fam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Also, I just read Raven's response on the last page in regards to the forum "degrading" and I agree that we're having MUCH more grown up debates here than was ever possible in the early 2000s when I first registered here. It was like a bunch of horn dog teenagers and 20 year olds on here.... and a few older people. I'd like to say that I think Raven has done an excellent job as a leader and steward of this community. I really appreciate that he hasn't involved himself in any of the pettiness that some of us have indulged in. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 45 minutes ago, Dirty_habiT said: YEEEEHAWWWWW!!!!! Even if nobody died, they still destroyed US assets. You can't just break my toys and expect to not be missing some teeth afterwards.... because I'm a "nice guy". Now they’re threatening Israel and the UAE. Not a good look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kults Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Ahahahahahahaha ^ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareOnElmStreet Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Came in for one quick question....Politic nerds.....on a scale of 1 - 10, 10 being dead, how close are we (in the states, on American soil)...??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1. Their missiles can’t even reach Israel, it’s all chest beating on their part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareOnElmStreet Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Also, where is a good radio or news station to listen in on all this bullshit? Obviously none of your average places, like npr? Would like to be informed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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