gasfacevictm Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 It really does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technoheadphones Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 One step at a time, man. This time next year the workout thread needs to have a meetup. We should have it in a city with a bunch of the emo 12oz'ers so we can smash skulls. Viking apparel/weaponry would be optional. Also: beards. Still going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Incognito Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Pretty much all creatine is cheap. It's not an expensive supplement at all. Just read some reviews and order some bulk creatine online. What exactly are you expecting it to do for you? All it really does is help you bang out a few more reps during workouts and help you recover faster. Which will help in the long-run, but it's not an energy booster or muscle builder. well mostly i was looking for something to improve muscle recovery, not to say i can't move from soreness but im saying i really don't notice a difference when i use creatine or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat ralphy Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 my motivation is like shit... about to turn 30 in a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Basegow Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 well mostly i was looking for something to improve muscle recovery, not to say i can't move from soreness but im saying i really don't notice a difference when i use creatine or not. http://www.flexcart.com/members/elitefts/default.asp?m=PD&cid=114&pid=3942 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Just watched Fat Head on Netflix. I love doc's like that... reminded me of the Showtime series Bullshit! I believed them in what they said, but I don't know how much a diet like that could work. It just seems.. backwards. You eat fat to lose fat? Odd. Which kind of leads into my question... This sounds newbish but whats a solid way to get trim and have more muscle definition? Is there anything more to it than low weights, high reps, low carbs and lots of cardio? Don't mention HIIT... I hate that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Just sit on your couch and drink soda. That's the secret that the pros won't tell you about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Work out once a week for a half an hour. Your body gets used to your schedule and balances everything out by accelerating your muscle growth and metabolism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 eat shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 UMAD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ape Shit Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Inspiring read about a 91-year-old bodybuilder. http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/apr/02/i-am-a-90-year-old-bodybuilder "...Then, at last year's event in Germany, I triumphed, scoring higher than any contestant in any age category for my 57 dips, 61 chin-ups, 50 push-ups and 48 abdominal crunches, each in 45 seconds." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyWay Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I swam 1100 metres today, then I inhaled a quarter chicken, chips, peas with gravy. Net reult=probably negative but fuck it was worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Interesting essay about a carnivorous diet. It was written by Owsley Stanley.. the guy who made pretty much all the acid for the hippies in the 60's... http://www.thebear.org/essays1.html#anchor496162 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Deadlift personal record today. I feel drunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlando Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Deadlift personal record today. I feel drunk. one rep max? how much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 Not much in the grand scheme of things, but I worked up to 300. I was pretty happy about it and celebrated by watching Hobo With A Shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlando Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 ah noice; props for even deadlifting. anybody down with cleans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 I fuck with em. I'm not good at them, but I do those and power snatches. I don't have enough room at the gym I use to try and learn them with the full squat/drop position without the possibility of dropping the weight on someone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlando Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 dang, havent seen anyone snatch at the gym ever & i haven't done it either in forever. not great at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boost™ Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 COME AT ME BRO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boost™ Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 my schedule Sunday - Biceps / Back Tuesday - Triceps / Chest Thursday - Shoulders I do heavy lifting and stay in the gym for like 45 minutes Don't do my legs much because i have arthritis in one knee from wrenching on cars so damn much. Don't do abs much because i have a fast metabolism so i never have a gut a pretty toned stomach, plus ill just be burning calories. Pre-workout = half a scoop of jack3d, dont like taking alot because then you become dependent on it. After workout = Beyond Raw Rebuilt Mass 2 scoops Daily = Animal Pack multivitamin Been working out for a year in August. I'm 140lbs now but trying to be 170 this summer. My bench: Flat = 160 with the bar Incline = 145 with the bar Decline = 125 with the bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staby Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 I aint tryin to slow yo roll hustla, but back is a pull day, chest is a push, shoulders is a push. most pros do a push/pull/push schedule yadadamean, Works even if you go hard enough to be sore fo days i find and decline should be at least inline with flat,its easier for anyone with an equal chest...work dem dips! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Incognito Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 you may have a toned stomach and fast metabolism but you should still do abs just like anyone else should. im not one to talk though i definitely slack the most on ab workouts compared to anything else i do. i just don't like the "im not fat so i dont need to work my abs out" mentality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Why would I even do cleans? It seems that there is no real benefit to this exercise other than a shout out to the sport of Olympic lifting. Half the movement is balance and momentum. I train for strength. I can hit all the same muscles without the same risk of injury by squatting, dead-lifting and shrugging. I really don't see the point. 1) Doing one explosive movement instead of three saves time. 2) The momentum is caused by you and the more that is displayed during the movement is done by your strength. 3) You won't get injured if you learn how to do them properly with light weights or just the bar. my schedule Sunday - Biceps / Back Tuesday - Triceps / Chest Thursday - Shoulders I do heavy lifting and stay in the gym for like 45 minutes Don't do my legs much because i have arthritis in one knee from wrenching on cars so damn much. Don't do abs much because i have a fast metabolism so i never have a gut a pretty toned stomach, plus ill just be burning calories. Pre-workout = half a scoop of jack3d, dont like taking alot because then you become dependent on it. After workout = Beyond Raw Rebuilt Mass 2 scoops Daily = Animal Pack multivitamin Been working out for a year in August. I'm 140lbs now but trying to be 170 this summer. My bench: Flat = 160 with the bar Incline = 145 with the bar Decline = 125 with the bar Arthritis? Aren't you like 17? You need to squat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boost™ Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 Arthritis? Aren't you like 17? Thats a big negative im in my 20s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facemeltAAARGH Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 YO WHO'S GOT DAT JUICE? 4REAL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Perhaps it saves time, that's a fair point, but not enough to make me want to do them. Of course you create the momentum but this doesn't mean its of any benefit. I can also create momentum by swinging back and forward while doing arm curls, but it doesn't mean its going to help me in any meaningful way. I think there is a significant risk of injury when you start to lift heavier. It seems this and other olympic style moves are still done out of tradition rather than any real benefit to strength or power. Here is an article I found which tends to say the same thing; http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FIH/is_7_68/ai_n18608442/ In relation to risk; In relation to benefits for speed or explosiveness; So it seems that power cleans will only build explosiveness for doing better power cleans. That article serves your point. I'm sure I could find 100 more online to do the same on either side. Fact of the matter is that explosiveness is beneficial in all areas of strength. You can get hurt doing any exercise, weighted or not. Cleans have a huge cost/benefit ratio as far as muscle building is concerned and it is in favor of benefit. As far as swinging weights...kettlebell swings are insanely productive for strength and conditioning. You can believe and do what you want, but olympic lifts are just plain effective at building muscle and are only dangerous if you master your own bad habits. Persuading people from doing exercises that grant them huge gains out of fear of an injury that may or may not happen is pretty corny especially when it is pretty much not going to happen. That article is the Patriot Act of weight lifting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 im not a huge power clean fan, but i dont deny that you can get some benefits out of them. speed/explosiveness is critical to strength. research the dynamic method that is part of the west side template. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 My little nephew is in wrestling and they are now doing a program that involves cleans. I'll tell you guys one thing for sure, he's getting swole for a 15 year old kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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