abrasivesaint Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Videos and photos are to try to show it’s not just like an army of “Antifa Anarchists.” Hellbent on violence. In this photo you can see how far the blockades stretched. The went about 4-5 blocks down Pine, and 1-2 blocks in either direction off of Pine. Where that crowd is further down the street is where that guy in the car entered, from the right. this last photo was the response from a few people after a few rounds of blast balls from the police. They pushed us back about 2 blocks. Then the video footage further up is when they pulled back and the protestors pushed forward again. Edited June 11, 2020 by abrasivesaint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 @misteraven@Mercer Here is the leading edge of the research into how the interested parties worked to shift the understanding of the protests away from police brutality to an "Antifa is coming" scare. This is from the Digital Forensics Lab at the Atlantic Council. They are not the MSM, indeed, their work highlights how the MSM misleads and creates bubbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILZ FILLZ Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Don’t tell me a drunk guy in a bar started that whole thing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 The Qanon account on the second day that seems to have laid the foundation for the narrative: Campaign gains momentum with some heavy hitter influencers from the 'alt-right' joining in: The crazy is laundered by mainstream media who equate Antifa with treasonous terrorists: White House joins in with their own conspiracy theories of bricks placed for rioters that were moving into suburbs and small towns (that, unfortunately, a few folk on 12OZ bought in to): Sheriffs coming out to state that rumours their officers are tracking caravans of protesters invading small towns are wrong and that nobody is coming: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, KILZ FILLZ said: Don’t tell me a drunk guy in a bar started that whole thing Pretty clear patterns, huh? Find a kernel of truth, twist the reality, tap fears, mobilise biases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 In 1960s the rumours were that the negros would rape your women and eat your children. Communities mobilised against those protests too: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 School shooting=git rid of cops. Police brutality =git rid of cops. Recipe for disaster. Plus I didn’t think Americans negotiate with terrorists, should have burned the station down when I got a dui. Big doom vibes. Marionettes. Matter can’t be created or destroyed, it just changes shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 4 hours ago, where said: School shooting=git rid of cops. Police brutality =git rid of cops. Recipe for disaster. Plus I didn’t think Americans negotiate with terrorists, should have burned the station down when I got a dui. Big doom vibes. Marionettes. Matter can’t be created or destroyed, it just changes shape. Sprinkle “globalists” in there a few times and this reads like a a drunk and stoned Alex Jones rant on a Joe Rogan podcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Was just reading some reports of some goofy sounding shit going on in that AZ in Seattle. Sounds like that rapper and pals are really taking the reigns and making it a self promotional shit show. Havent seen anything, just stuff i read online. The little i have seen from that dude was getting goofy though, that I can say for certain. Edited June 11, 2020 by abrasivesaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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abrasivesaint Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 The funny part is theres a video on that rappers Instagram story right now of him talking to a dude who lives on that block and says he feels safer now with the people out there than he ever did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) Sounds like things are unraveling for Seattle‘s “Autonomous Zone.” Reports of cops slowly encircling the area they’ve been occupying, infighting, rumors of attempted extortion of local businesses. edit: I’m gonna try to get down there after work tomorrow, been too busy to pop over and see what's going on. I can’t confirm any of this, just things i’ve been reading from news outlets and folks on social media. Edited June 12, 2020 by abrasivesaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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misteraven Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 On 6/10/2020 at 5:30 PM, Hua Guofang said: That's fine, as you said we're not here to convince each other. My position is that it sounds carbon copy to a current trend or rumours and scare mongering by some elements of the media and politicians. What's your take on the reasons that these people are leaving CA to protest in a small town such a distance away? Local LEO suspect its a response to a video that went viral of some asshole screaming at protesters. There was a photo of him staring down a young girl that seems to have become the official poster card for the situation. In any case, the caravan got spotted crossing through a small town. That towns LEO simply called ahead when they saw it continue and each town along the way essentially did the same thing until it hit our country where it eventually stopped. They’ve watching the area where they’re camped out and the spots they’ve hit up for food out of concern. So far, they seem to be genuine protesters and not inciting violence but they were coordinated and organized. Then again everyone here owns guns and good many are walking around with them plainly visible. Who knows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misteraven Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 This is the photo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 You would have a much harder time ending up in that kind of iconic photo here in a larger city. Most people here don't mind the protesters, and there's a lot more of them. It's probably the opportunity to be in a shot like that drawing protesters to your area tbh. A much taller man unhinged leaning into a woman's face like that with fists clenched, all that rage, a woman's eyes calm eyes, and firm posture engaging in non violent resistance. Profile pic flex of a lifetime, she's probably smiling under that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILZ FILLZ Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 First I’m seeing that pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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abrasivesaint Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 The amount of blonde white women i’ve seen holding “BLACK TRANS LIVES MATTER” signs is starting to become comedy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 On 6/11/2020 at 6:09 AM, abrasivesaint said: Sprinkle “globalists” in there a few times and this reads like a a drunk and stoned Alex Jones rant on a Joe Rogan podcast. Whatever betaboy, keep trying to marginalize the truth, while sucking soros’ dick and your own. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 And extended magazine with a magazine taped to it, on his way to work at Nike Town in downtown Seattle, just trying to see how bad the protests were... having a real hard time buying the dudes story. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/prosecutors-say-man-who-shot-protester-on-capitol-hill-likely-provoked-the-incident/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Makes it much harder to claim self defense when you're viewed contributing to the escalation. At least that's how I think, knowing how I'll be judged if I have to defend myself. Dude was looking for a confrontation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Ya, it feels like he had an ill-conceived notion to do some shit and quickly realized he fucked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 It's just hard to come off as innocent when you're seen driving like that towards multiple people. Honestly, it's also not a good look to be swinging on dude through his window, or bashing peoples cars because that crosses the line between just blocking traffic, and aggression. Adrenaline, and mob mentality gets the better of you, next thing you know you're just as bad as a piece of shit cop, punching someone through their window. I know that might piss a lot of you off but it's the truth, and good advice for anyone trying to stay above room temperature. Most people aren't total pacifists, meaning most believe in the right to self defense. Aggression, and escalation should automatically disqualify you from claiming self defense. You don't get to create the situation where you need to defend yourself, or cause someone else to have to defend themselves and then claim you acted in self defense. Also not a good look to aggress against others for practical reasons. Non Aggression Principal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, Mercer said: You don't get to create the situation where you need to defend yourself, or cause someone else to have to defend themselves and then claim you acted in self defense. Obviously in complete agreement with you, but George Zimmerman did exactly this when he murdered Trayvon Martin and he kept his freedom, so its a coin toss for this dude getting away with his bad decisions or not. Failing systems... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) I’d say most non-nazi type people look at Zimmerman for what he is, a child murderer. He wasn’t “standing his ground” or merely refusing to retreat, which you have every right to, he was intentionally causing a situation where he could murder a black person and the government condoned his actions. I don’t think that’s going to happen in this dude’s situation. Edited June 13, 2020 by Mercer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 On 6/13/2020 at 12:31 AM, misteraven said: This is the photo. Yeah, I can buy that as a reason people would travel to protest, as opposed to riot or loot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 14 hours ago, Mercer said: You would have a much harder time ending up in that kind of iconic photo here in a larger city. Most people here don't mind the protesters, and there's a lot more of them. It's probably the opportunity to be in a shot like that drawing protesters to your area tbh. A much taller man unhinged leaning into a woman's face like that with fists clenched, all that rage, a woman's eyes calm eyes, and firm posture engaging in non violent resistance. Profile pic flex of a lifetime, she's probably smiling under that. Don't mean to diminish her but that confident defiance is another level of sexiness. Fucking raw hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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