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I haven't been in here much this year either.

What should I do in NYC on the 5th? Gonna be there with no other plans one day and leaving out in the morning. Local Breweries? azn escorts? anything thursday specific? Restaurant recs? good spot to cop an outfit? is there still phone in a bag services? A club i may have a nice time at?

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Ya know, looking back at your posts full of conviction and fervor I take back what I said. This is just another podium that should be used for thoughtful discourse.

 

 

Your over-dramatisation and efforts in re-reading my posts goes straight to the heart of your giving a shit what other people do on internet forums.

 

Thanks for caring.

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I don't think the American electorate has ever been this polarized.

Or at least not since the Civil War.

By "electorate", I mean the people who actually give a shit and vote.

It's not even that half of America are a bunch of Fox news watching, right wing, brainwashed retards hell bent on destroying any social progress this country has ever made and sending us back to the 19th century.

It's just that all of them actually vote whereas most people don't.

And so now we have a hijacked congress, and a poster-child for the unregulated corporate greed machine that has ransacked our economy running for president to show for it.

We're following in the same footsteps as every other empire that has fallen.

The right wing of this country has depleted our economy through a combination of wars for global conquest, while simultaneously cutting taxes on the rich who use said tax cuts to build factories in China thus exporting American jobs.

And our hijacked congress and Romney are straight up PROMISING to re-continue on that path.

And their solution to the financial hole that their war mongering and overzealous military spending has gotten us into is to blame it on the working class and eliminate any and all social programs and infrastructure spending while making absolutely no cuts at all to the pentagon and the military industrial complex that is the main cause of the federal deficit to begin with.

 

If Romney becomes president, this recession we're slowly coming out of will reverse and send us into another great depression.

We'll become a third world country while maintaining the largest military in the world.

And maybe that's their agenda. De-fund education while shipping all the blue collar jobs overseas to basically starve the working class into having no other choice than to join the military?

 

That's why I think politics now is more important or consequential than it ever has been.

 

Well-said on the polarization front, and it's a point many people miss: there ARE people who dont fit neatly into one party or the other. They're just not represented. They dont want to vote for something that doesnt fit them. This trend will only expand as we go forward.

 

We have a "hijacked" congress because people got sick of the Dems running the show and didnt see the value in obamas reaction to the recession. i believe economics is cyclical but i personally also dont believe the bailout was the thing to do. We've begun to restrict the banks more and more but it irks me that in this country we turned to corporate welfare to shore up big business. what about small business? what about bailing out americans whose homes are underwater? what about students graduating with tens of thousands of dollars in debt? The parties i just mentioned did nothing wrong and are hurting because of the recession. Big business ran us into the ground and are getting checks? That shit has irked me since the beginning. Fuck GM and the big 3. Fuck the UAW as well. A forklift operator shouldn't make $70,000 a year and they know that, they happen to have GM by the nuts at the moment. PS - all that taxpayer money to GM? Most of it has been repaid. Much of it has gone to constructing dealerships, manufacturing facilities, and hiring people. Awesome! Too bad thats all happening in Russia and China.

 

I'm not totally sure that lumping romney in with the "corporate greed machine" is the right step. His company, on occasion, bought dying companies and tried to make them right again. They fired people. GM fired and laid off people when it was getting restructured, too - Obama and the government required them to, as a condition of their plan to stop bleeding money.

 

Why is it such an evil in America, the nation of at-will employment, to fire people? Open question, I really want to know.

 

I'm a firm believer that we're running into the ground already and regardless who wins we're gonna double (triple?) dip. Our current political compromise model is mind numbingly backwards: when a piece of law passes now, it generally includes some type of spending increase as well as a tax cut. This appeases both parties. This is wholly and embarrassingly unsustainable. There will be a president who will take a stand and have the balls to tell people what the fuck is going on. Neither of these two are that person. Honestly, I dont believe it'll happen until it's too late.

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Finally, the one thing i WILL say about romney that gives me some flicker of hope is that the guy has seen a fucking balance sheet before. He has, at least, experienced some semblance of financial management in his life - whether he goes by it is another story

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I don't think anyone considers it evil to fire people.

 

Layoffs and restructuring due to outsourcing and a horrendous economy...well, that's an entirely different pill to swallow.

 

Romney also has a shady history of playing around with money in ways he shouldn't, not to mention repealing universal healthcare rabble rabble rabble. And he's a humorless cock.

 

Whoops, back on the politics.

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Haven't read the full posts yet but it's difficult to argue against outsourcing from the country that champions the free market system. Be competitive or find something else to do.

 

Disclaimer - I am not an economist and know dick all about it

 

 

PS, please note my sincere halfheartedness and fervor in this post. I'm not enjoying a discussion on topics of interest, I'm desperately trying to convince everyone of everything.

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@realism

 

Yes it is.

I'm not angry that GM is moving to other countries. I'm angry that they funded these moves with my money. Theyre a fucking poster child for mismanagement. Dudes were building shitty, unreliable small cars and big SUVs as gas prices increased by a factor of 5 from 2003-2008. You dont have to be a businessperson to see this. You have to have electrical currents running through your fucking brain ... gas is $5/gallon, let's build more avalanches! more tahoes and suburbans! genius!

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* @ Eviltrailer

 

Since when has the average person been all about foreign affairs, security issues, global econ and a lot of other higher altitude issues anyway?

 

Most people have enough on their plates to worry about regarding career, family, enjoying their time here, etc. to spend time educating themselves on that shit. And as some one who is paid to research I will also add in order to educate yourself to a valid degree on such complex issues a fuck load of time and determination (a bit of education doesn't go astray as well) is required.

 

Being informed that shit is going down is one thing, that takes reading shit like NYT, Foreign Policy, Economist, some other non-US sources, etc. Even being informed you need to spread yourself to get a number of viewpoints. To actually know what you're talking about and to come to your own credible conclusions takes some pretty serious commitment in time and money.

People don't have time for that when running small businesses, families, studying, traveling, dancing, falling in and out of love and generally living life.

 

Probably one of the only things worth taking from this thread.

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i just read this whole thread (first page), and i've been saying this for awhile. Things have gone to and are in a complete shit storm right now. People in general just suck.Quality of everything has diminished immensely. I get so angry when i try to explain to "regular" people how stupid and idiotic the music/movies/ or TV is nowadays, and they just look at me like i have four heads. Fact is there are only a few of us who don't fall into the heap of shit thats slammed down societies throats everyday. We read between the lines, but unfortunately for us. Thats all it will ever be. To wake everyone up, to whats really going on, and to see the garbage for what it really is, will never happen. There will forever be those people who buy into that music, that movie, that lifestyle. Suckers. I could go on, and my rants will really always go off the deep end. So before my head explodes because I've had this stuff bottled up for months, and I' just try to get it out of my head and onto paper (internet forum), my head will explode, because i can never say what I truly feel when it comes to this, without getting pissed off. Never mind trying to explain some of my thoughts to a person who is doesn't have the same views at all. i just want to punch my thoughts into them, with a brick.

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and as far as music goes. Again without sounding like a tin foil head. Think about it. The music that is put out today is so dumb, narrow minded, and stupid, that in effect is making everyone else that listens to it, stupid. There is no more music that actually sends a message, that gets people thinking about the situation, or whats going on in the world. All the music is nowadays is "candy painted car, gold grills" "this is why I'm hot" "smoke dat kush" "popping bottles" "we up in da club making it rain" It's made to keep america and everyone stupid, and keeping all us idiots thinking that cars, grills, spending money on club vip, shoes, and hoes are more important than actually caring whats going on society/the world. This is designed this way to keep us all stupid, and to keep us from actually caring about something more than money/popping bottles/ weed. I hope some of you get what I'm trying to say. I can never really get my thoughts from my brain to paper, because my brains starts going a 100,000 miles a minute.

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Seriously all you retards sound like a bunch of crabby senior citizens.

 

"AW PISS! It ain't what it used to be!"

 

"The world is going straight down the drain!"

 

"AW PISs!@!! Kids these days have no idea what they're doin!"

 

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

You most likely have a handheld device in your pocket with instant access to the sum of all human knowledge.

LOOK AT HOW MUCH AMAZING STUFF YOU HAVE IN YOUR LIFE... then go fuck yourself.

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. Anyone know where I'm coming from?

Yeah I'm looking at you CreamyPotatoandHoes. you've been pretty chatty on here lately.

 

 

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I feel the same way. Seems cliche and a cop out but I blame technology. There is an easy answer for everything."let me google it, hold up" *pulls out cell phone*

No one needs to think anymore.. I think ounce decline is related in a way to tech advance. Now when people have An interesting thought our a funny story from their day, Facebook. Where as it used to be threads. There used to be threads about the most mundane shit but that's what made this place pop. "pulpy orange juice is the jam!" Threads like that....

 

 

Funny because sometimes I bounce shit off the ounce before bringing it up at work too

 

 

PS-.coming your way next week. Keep an eye on your inbox

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