acer910 Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Yeah man, from my personal fat-loss experience, I realized that first you lose all of the 'surface' water weight, and once you do it long enough, you'll actually lose some fat in the middle of your workout and/or after it when you're sleeping (catabolic state). This is why its recommend that you dont eat before you sleep, that way once you step on the scale right after you wake up, your water weight and some of the fat that you've lost will be gone and your actual 'healthy' weight will show up. As an ex high school fat-ass. Its a double-edged sword, you WILL lose weight, but you have a good chance of gaining some of it the next month (this is where eating 6 small healthy meals comes into play, it keeps your metabolism up and running so it'll break down a lot of shit), so you gotta be consistent with it. Just my personal input, hope this helped. and Urotsukidōji, yeah I do Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (I dont know why I feel like a br0 saying that). ive always been skinny so i dont have much input on the weight loss issue, im tryin to gain weight haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 had a race today, just a 5k. didnt do good at all, but i gained 3 spots in the last 300 meters and beat a guy by one second haha. but as a team we kicked ass, perfect score of 15 for the ladies (never been done before) and we got like 21 for the men, beat our "cross town rivals" for the first time in 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 How many of you guys go on Scooby's website? Dude has tons of easy to read info.. his videos can be a little... gay tho. http://scoobysworkshop.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facemeltAAARGH Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I do, homeboy is built like a turtle... gotta work on the neck, playboy. Lulz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 http://scoobysworkshop.com/marijuana.htm :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 LOL Scooby.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 i've no doubt that man makers sucks, but to say they're better than burpees is wrong. thats like saying a p90x pushup is better than a regular pushup. no shit. its like 12 exercises in one... anyhow. i've let myself go. have minimal motivation and am not really sure what to do about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 find someone to compete with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R@ndomH3ro Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 i've no doubt that man makers sucks, but to say they're better than burpees is wrong. thats like saying a p90x pushup is better than a regular pushup. no shit. its like 12 exercises in one... anyhow. i've let myself go. have minimal motivation and am not really sure what to do about it... Fatty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Are you doing cardio? That's helped me have more energy in the weight room. Or try to find someone to workout with. But taking a break isn't the worst thing. Once you start to feel your muscles going soft you'll most likely want to get back into the swing of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 This ones for Acer... when you got an hour... very interesting watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 i didnt even know you could upload videos longer then 9 minutes hahah. il check that out tomorrow. hey im working on a weight routine (xc season is ending soon, so is school schedule so im fixing to have a LOT of free time every day that i cant fill with running). ive got the reps figured out, but the lifts i still gotta work on. so far for upper body (shoulders/bicept/tricept/pecs/forearm) the lifts i have are: shrugs butterflys bench (wide, close and standard) curls (dumbell) arm extensions (dumbell) reverse butterfly pushups forearm rollups (found a nice section of pipe i can use) legs/lower back: squat leg extensions leg curls dead lifts calf raises trying to stay away from machines as much as possible. especially on all leg workouts, want to build up my support muscles as much as possible. i cant imagine they hurt when it comes to balance and running etc. do i need to divide this up into 3 different sections? im throwing in a ab/core workout but i dont know the names of half the shit i do for abs so i didnt list it. all this will be done with atleast 30 minutes of running, or 4 miles, more when my body adjusts. and lastly, leg day will be monday so i can run through the pain and not be sore for weekend races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 It's all about trial and error. Whatever works for you.. I have 3 different workout days which go as follows.. 1st day... legs/lower back/abs 2nd day... chest/triceps/shoulders/ 3rd day... back and biceps compound exercises first, followed by isolation ones. Never get sloppy with your form.. blah blah etc etc. And yeah.. let me know what you think about that vid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 yeah i want to try to keep my workout to three days with a day imbetween each. ive always been pretty good with form, id rather do 9 correctly then the full 12 incorrectly. i was never told about compound/isolation excersizes. i assume compound is more then one muscle (like squats) and isolation is one muscle, like forearm rolls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Fatty pretty much. in the 3 months i've been back in garrison i think i've done PT under 10 times. and certainly not on my own unless you count riding my bike to the bars... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 i was never told about compound/isolation excersizes. i assume compound is more then one muscle (like squats) and isolation is one muscle, like forearm rolls? Yup. Bench press, squats, DL's, pull-ups are compound exercises. They work whole muscle groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 okay thats what i thought, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 acer... yeah its best to stick to compound moves for the majority of your workouts. concentrating on arm curls and flyes isnt the most efficient use of lifting time unless you are ahnold presses for shoulders presses for chest, tris, upper back, etc dips for overall upper body rows for back chins back/arms squats/deads legs might also consider limiting your accessory and/or isolation work to parts that arent hit that hard in the main moves. things like shrugs/face pulls for upper back, curls for arms, laterals for shoulders if doing bench presses that day, etc GHR's/back raises for low back/glutes, etc. all the other muscles will get hit hard on the compound moves. in another words if you benching hard one day there is no real need to do 30 sets of every conceivable fly or pull over afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellycheese Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 hey guys, i'm sure it's been asked before so sorry if i'm just repeating old questions. Any advice on a good at home strength training routine without weights? I'm trying to put on a little mass and get in better shape than I am now but for the time being unfortunately I don't have the money to join a gym or even pick up some weights to use at home. I'm pretty much at a beginner level too...any advice would be awesome. thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 pushups, chins, dips, check out the convict conditioning book casek has uploaded numerous times. get a keg, do cleans with it. a sand bag. climb rope. get a jump rope. get a wore out truck tire with a cut side wall from a tire recycler, flip it, beat it with a sledge hammer. run. burpees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 wait so working a muscle till its tired, and then keeping on working it doesnt make it stronger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat ralphy Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 im doing the atkins thing for the next two weeks. still working out and doing cardio. I have decided to start bench with 215lbs and see if that will let me increase strength, right now I have been repping light weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CONCRETE RIVER Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 good luck doing cardio and atkins at the same time....i find it nearly impossible to drum up the energy. multi vitamin might help a bit- make sure your taking em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat ralphy Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 i do stairclimber so its a steady pace for about 30mins.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 i fucking hate running stairs, so props to you for doing them. i dont know anything about diets but i would HATE being on a diet while training for xc. not to say i dont each specific foods, but i damn sure dont limit my portions, etc etc. about the only rule i follow is nothing acidic and a no food/no water buffer zone a hour and a half before runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIRTY D Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 all i gotta say is, ya'll better be wearing yall sandals in the showers cuz i be pissing all over the floor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 ^^fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 good luck doing cardio and atkins at the same time....i find it nearly impossible to drum up the energy. i do stairclimber so its a steady pace for about 30mins.... Sprint intervals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urotsukidōji Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Sprint intervals. sprintervals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 wait so working a muscle till its tired, and then keeping on working it doesnt make it stronger? i hope im understanding your comment properly... my point was that if you are doing the bench press with the right intensity and volume followed by say one supplementary bench movement, its generally a waste to then go into incline flyes, decline flyes, pec deck, cable crossovers, pullovers, flat flyes, cable crossovers from the bottom, etc. the bench press is working all parts of the chest and also hitting triceps, lats/upper back and shoulders all in that one movement. if you do 30 min of flyes afterwards like some guys you are only then focusing solely on various heads of the chest muscle. where as you are hitting four muscle groups with the bench press alone. same is true of moves like the row or chin up as opposed to straight arm pull downs. if you are at 4% body fat and you are 'cutting lines' in for a body building competition, it might be fine to do a lot of isolation work. if you are trying to get huge, get strong or are starting out at weight lifting, compound moves recruit more muscle, will make you stronger and is therefore a much more efficient use of your time. think about it... what do people ask all the time? 'how much do you bench?' or 'how much can you squat?' they dont ask how much you use on the pec deck or how much you can dumb bell curl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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