OGBforMumia Posted November 22, 2001 Share Posted November 22, 2001 thank you sonik, you have put more wrinkles in my brain than my whole first month of school. All in a couple paragraphs. You are my hero. OGBforPresident! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted November 22, 2001 Share Posted November 22, 2001 well, I consider Sonik choice of desk reference to be elementary at best, no matter how much that diploma cost. Heads know, and stand beside: A Dictionary of Modern English Usage by H.W. Fowler often refered to simply as 'Fowler's' he's the Hoyle of the english language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonik3000 Posted November 22, 2001 Share Posted November 22, 2001 Smart, Fowler is... (consulting Fowler) "my nigga." I recommend Strunk and White because it is cheap, light, and gets the kiddies started. Happy Turkey, Turkey. Sonik3000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misteraven Posted November 22, 2001 Share Posted November 22, 2001 Originally posted by Sonik3000 I'll concur with you about the science english / english english difference in standards. One of my Nepali brothers hit me off with a copy of his doctoral dissertation in theoretical physics. I literally could not make out a single sentence. My boy's wicked smart. Ask him for the English version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted November 22, 2001 Share Posted November 22, 2001 Word Sonik, I looked it up and he's 'my nigga' too :), I guess we're on the same page there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonik3000 Posted November 23, 2001 Share Posted November 23, 2001 Secret, There are a few conventions here, but really the key is just to be consistent. The convention of underlining book titles arose from the days of handwritten manuscripts, where the underlining was a cue to the printer to use italics, since it's pretty hard to handwrite italics. Films, books, album names, and other kinds of compilation titles are underlined when handwritten and italicized when typed. Essay titles, song titles, poem titles, web site URLs, article titles, and other generally smaller bits are in quotations. Examples: I wrote an article in Twelve Ounce Prophet Magazine called "My Surf Board." Bob Dylan's song "Things Have Changed" appears in the movie Wonder Boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracked Ass Posted November 23, 2001 Share Posted November 23, 2001 Another note on the passive voice: fools use it in papers to take up space. A must read is George Orwell's essay "Politics and the English Language". Among other things, he clowns the modern tendency to take up more space while having less to say. "It becomes routine - even easier, once you have the habit - to say 'In my opinion it is not an unjustifiable assumption that' than to say 'I think". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egnog Posted November 25, 2001 Share Posted November 25, 2001 Egnog was just casually browsing through this thread and a few topics sprung to his English mind: 1) When would anyone actually say 'an humor'? Humor is not something tangible and thus cannot really be used in a conversation e.g. "I'm going to the cornershop to buy an humor dear", To Egnog that just doesn't sound right. 2)Egnog has perceived that Americans have the audacity to call their language 'English'. There are so many fundamental differences between English 'English' and American 'English' that American would seem more appropriate a name. Also, Egnog cannot understand all the strange abbreviations and pronunciations that have been filtering into his fair country from the bad grammar melting pot that is more widely known as America. For instance: Xmas - What? Do you mean Christmas? Well why not just write it or are your obese fingers unable to hold a pen for too long? Tonite - It's tonight, with g-h-t. Can your miniscule brains not understand the most basic pronunciations? Route - Pronounced 'root' not 'raout' Leicester - 'Lester' not bloody 'ly-sester' These are just a few of the linguistic faux pas that Egnog has been able to remember due to his brain being clouded by grammatical rage. More will come soon. P.S. THE LAW - I'm looking forward to your reply. Love, The Egnog. http://www16.brinkster.com/bronxed/clipboard.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted November 25, 2001 Share Posted November 25, 2001 Egnog, It's a matter of style i supose, its vital for every language to have new terms or an alternative meaning/form. Humor works that way pretty much. I dont think anyone would write Xmass when he doesnt want to sound Xmass. Also, about the English/American thing, i disagree. Its English. Its way to sovinistic (sp?) otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted November 25, 2001 Share Posted November 25, 2001 Plus the fact that climate conditions affect pronounciation way to much to keep the spelling the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted November 25, 2001 Share Posted November 25, 2001 Originally posted by egnog Egnog was just casually browsing through this thread and a few topics sprung to his English mind: 1) When would anyone actually say 'an humor'? Humor is not something tangible and thus cannot really be used in a conversation e.g. "I'm going to the cornershop to buy an humor dear", To Egnog that just doesn't sound right. 2)Egnog has perceived that Americans have the audacity to call their language 'English'. There are so many fundamental differences between English 'English' and American 'English' that American would seem more appropriate a name. Also, Egnog cannot understand all the strange abbreviations and pronunciations that have been filtering into his fair country from the bad grammar melting pot that is more widely known as America. For instance: Xmas - What? Do you mean Christmas? Well why not just write it or are your obese fingers unable to hold a pen for too long? Tonite - It's tonight, with g-h-t. Can your miniscule brains not understand the most basic pronunciations? Route - Pronounced 'root' not 'raout' Leicester - 'Lester' not bloody 'ly-sester' These are just a few of the linguistic faux pas that Egnog has been able to remember due to his brain being clouded by grammatical rage. More will come soon. P.S. THE LAW - I'm looking forward to your reply. Love, The Egnog. this from a guy who can't spell his own name... 1 a person may make "an humorous remark"... remind me later to explain adjectives 2 call it what you want, it's OUR language now 3 the letter X has been synonomous with the name of Christ since 10 a.d. if you got beef, take it up with the Etruscans 4 idiots spell it tonite, find me an example in anything the Americans call Literature 5 pronounce it how you like and get out of my fuckin mouth 6 this from the country that pronounces Chomoddenly as 'chumley' (who cares how it's spelled, you pronounce it WRONG! Don't make me mention Worstershire) 7 Eggnog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonik3000 Posted November 25, 2001 Share Posted November 25, 2001 (British Blunderer Blundered the following) Egnog was just casually browsing through this thread and a few topics sprung to his English mind: (Sonik3000 reminds you to stay out of the passive voice, for you sound worthless, wordy, and weak.) 1) When would anyone actually say 'an humor'? Humor is not something tangible and thus cannot really be used in a conversation e.g. "I'm going to the cornershop to buy an humor dear", To Egnog that just doesn't sound right. (Sonik3000 sees passive voice again, and a split infinitive.) 2)Egnog has perceived that Americans have the audacity to call their language 'English'. There are so many fundamental differences between English 'English' and American 'English' that American would seem more appropriate a name. (Sonik3000 yet again sees passive voice.) Also, Egnog cannot understand all the strange abbreviations and pronunciations that have been filtering into his fair country from the bad grammar melting pot that is more widely known as America. For instance: Route - Pronounced 'root' not 'raout' (Why don't you listen to the American classic "Route 66" and hear for yourself how we actually pronounce the word.) These are just a few of the linguistic faux pas that Egnog has been able to remember due to his brain being clouded by grammatical rage. (Again, passive voice, as well as an improper non-pluralization of the French.) (In conclusion, fucker, don't get into a pissing contest with a skunk.) (Sonik3000, quoting the Irish: "Certainly the British gave us our language. But we, WE, showed them how to use it!") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted November 26, 2001 Share Posted November 26, 2001 <Applause for S3k.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracked Ass Posted November 26, 2001 Share Posted November 26, 2001 I have less to say to Egnog about grammar than about bigotry. You mention grammatical ignorance and obesity as though Americans have a monopoly on them. That's as simpleminded as calling all Muslims extremists. I can get an uncomfortably large dose of ignorance and obesity at my local Wal-Mart, but I don't go there for enlightenment or dietary guidance. So why are you on a graffiti site looking for exemplary grammar? I have a gift for the language, and I choose to share it with some people with common interests. Can you say the same, or did somebody spike your afternoon tea with a dash of Haterade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodice_ripper Posted November 26, 2001 Share Posted November 26, 2001 I'm not alone!!!! You have no idea how hysterically happy I am to find this thread. There are a couple of Irish graffiti sites with guest books, and I just love correcting the grammar of homie-wannabes. Your superior abilities humble me. (This is not sarcasm) As an aside: Egnog, you are just spouting the very old, weak argument often favored by the Brits. It runs thus: “We invented it, therefore we speak it correctly.” Anyone who understands languages knows that they do not work that way, least of all English. The phenomenal success of English can be attributed to its unique ability to absorb anything of use from other languages. Some countries, like France, struggle to prevent elements of English filtering in to their native tongue. English, however, takes any word it needs, ESPECIALLY if that word does not have a direct translation in English. Already there are more words in English than anything else, and this fact alone makes it a very versatile tongue. I know a lot of people resent English and believe it is stamping out native languages, but I think that is missing the point. English is no longer the mother tongue of any one country – it is the blending of any language it meets, like a natural Esperanto. The British trying to demand that people speak English like they do is as pointless as other countries trying to keep English out. Language EVOLVES, and I believe English is the proverbial Fittest. P.S. Egnog, there are more of us than there are of you - and we control T.V. You can kiss the superfluous “u” in color goodbye. (I am sure my grammar is atrocious, but I just wanted to make that point.) :dazed: and :confused: Communication is my Religion, why else would I be a writer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egnog Posted November 27, 2001 Share Posted November 27, 2001 Ha! It looketh like THE EGNOG hath riled some people up again. (Yes, passive voice used by Egnog.) >So why are you on a graffiti site looking for exemplary grammar? Mr. Ass, I'm not the one who started this thread. I personally don't give a fuck about grammatical correctness, I just was drunk and felt like pissing y'all off. The reason I'm on this site is to catch up with the US graff scene. >this from a guy who can't spell his own name... Smart, can Orfn or Sonik not spell their names right either? Oh well, looks like I might just have to buy some people an humor (spelt humour if you really must know, something I failed to pick up on yesterday.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Are2 Posted November 27, 2001 Share Posted November 27, 2001 Originally posted by egnog Ha! It looketh like THE EGNOG hath riled some people up again. (Yes, passive voice used by Egnog.) >this from a guy who can't spell his own name... Smart, can Orfn or Sonik not spell their names right either? Oh well, looks like I might just have to buy some people an humor (spelt humour if you really must know, something I failed to pick up on yesterday.) wow. there are just so many problems here, i don't know where to begin :P :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest THE LAW Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 temporarily unstickied yo....THE LAW doesn't have time to deal with this right now.... temporarily unstickied so it doesn't take up unnecessary space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest REMY-MARTIN Posted February 11, 2002 Share Posted February 11, 2002 SPELL CHECK MOTHAFUCKA word up..... i like this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Rage- Posted February 11, 2002 Share Posted February 11, 2002 Re: temporarily unstickied Originally posted by THE LAW temporarily unstickied so it doesn't take up unnecessary space. Or not... Some people might think that even with your proper grammar you might not refer to yourself in the third person... Not you. No offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracked Ass Posted February 11, 2002 Share Posted February 11, 2002 There is nothing grammatically incorrect about referring to oneself in the third person. This is a style issue. The worst complaint you could have against this usage is that it sounds pompous and egotistical - which is precisely what THE LAW aims for in using it. Another technique for sounding important is to use the kingly "we". In the old monarchies it was believed that the king received counsel direct from God, and the king would say "we" instead of "I", meaning "God and I". I was going to start a thread complaining about the decline in quality of Channel Zero topics, but the return of this one cancels my sentiment with a vengeance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backcountrywriter Posted February 12, 2002 Share Posted February 12, 2002 what ever happened to "The Law"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tue skinny Posted February 12, 2002 Share Posted February 12, 2002 woah woah waoh. where rabbit pancake. and wheres the law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idonotlikeu Posted February 13, 2002 Share Posted February 13, 2002 sbel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dELiSs Posted February 14, 2002 Share Posted February 14, 2002 im sam i am.. isnt it odd that "i am" can be a sentence.like...whos going? "i am." yet "i'm" which is a different form of "i am" cant be used that way ...like whos thirsty?.."i'm."..it doesnt work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jah Posted February 14, 2002 Share Posted February 14, 2002 the law is definately the funniest fucker on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASER1NE Posted February 16, 2002 Share Posted February 16, 2002 i dont care if this has been said b4 , im sayin it agian : THERE : 1 : in or at that place <stand over there> -- often used interjectionally 2 : to or into that place < I went there after church > 3 : at that point or stage <stop right there before you say something you'll regret> 4 : in that matter, respect, or relation <there is where I disagree with you> 5 -- used interjectionally to express satisfaction, approval, encouragement or sympathy, or defiance <there, it's finished > THEIR : 1 : of or relating to them or themselves especially as possessors, agents, or objects of an action <their furniture> <their verses> <their being seen> < it was their spraypaint > 2 : his or her : HIS, HER, ITS -- used with an indefinite third person singular antecedent <anyone in their senses > THEY'RE : Contraction of They Are 1 : <they're (they are ) going to the store> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCEBERG Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 yes it has already been said. i dont understand there problem tho, they just cant get that shit right. its like they'res a mental block or some shit, people are just dumb. oh well im outta here, to go over their Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCEBERG Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 yes i know bad form, and i was reaching for laughs on that one, but oh well, my names at the top of the list for awhile. im famous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest THE LAW Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 INSERT: FANFARE THE LAW announces his triumphant return to the 12ozProphet. The court allowed him a seven week paid holiday and he chose to go on safari. He has now returned to reign mercilessly over minions of incompetent stooges. who stickied this again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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