Joker Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Free advice is what it is. You take it and use it to your advantage or you leave it and move on. Do whatever you want and how you want but I'm telling you... cardboard is shit. If you were famous at all, in any circle and had been selling work for high dollar... a painting on cardboard is fine. But you're a writer no one has heard of trying to make a quick buck. So instead of changing that, you're going to continue with half-assing your art. I'm sorry, but I think that's sad. That sounds like a diss but it's more tough love than anything. I don't know you so I can't dislike you. So it's not personal. I just see that you can make some money doing what you like but your approach is going to keep you down. That pisses me off for some reason. Seeking is right, wood is cheap. Go to Home Depot or whatever and buy a piece of half inch ply. Have the shop cut it in half and you have two canvases right there. Attach some d-rings to the back for hanging and you're ready to paint. Hell... I bet if you stroll through a construction site at night you could find some decent sized scraps of ply for free. It's a thought. Primed canvas is something like $7 a yard. Unless you're disgustingly broke... $7 isn't going to hurt you. Buy a few yards of canvas and paint a few portraits on them. Don't worry about framing them or anything if you haven't got the cash. At least you have the art and can frame down the road. I have no idea where you live but I bet there's one night in every month where all the local galleries have their openings for the their new exhibits. Grab a bunch of your portraits, Leave anything graffiti related home, and go find yourself a spot on the sidewalk to set up shop. Display your work and let people walking from gallery to gallery get into it. Sell some or just sit there and let the commisioned work come to you. Don't cheapen your work by doing it on cardboard, Nomaq. Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 AND FOR FUCKS SAKE... WOULD YOU GUYS PLEASE QUIT QUOTING IMAGES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAID:one Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Originally posted by Joker@Nov 17 2004, 06:23 AM ...Don't cheapen your work by doing it on cardboard, Nomaq. Please. Quoted post No one who buys art for big bucks will buy anything on card board for big bucks. Unless you're willing to sell them for 10 to 20 bucks keep painting on cardboard. It's non archival and wont last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 what you have to remember is that you're not making 'art', you're making a 'product'. one that while 'well done', is not particularly creative or unique. you're relying on peoples attachment to the celebrities to make sales, not on your personal approach to painting them, or your own fame. because of that, you're not in a position to be dictating what is acceptible. maybe your boys think a creased image of tupac is cool, but something tells me these are the same people that pose 5 deep in front of a backdrop of dollars bills and cristal bottles. that's not your target market. if you were homeless and schizophrenic doing these paintings with cigarette ash and mud, cardboard would be ok because it would add to the asthetic of the final product. you're not schizophrenic and homeless. :( anyway, i know it's a dead horse but please, listen to joker. dude sells paintings for the price of a mid sized luxery sadan, he knows what he's talking about. seeks/ok, i totally made that part up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T182graff Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Originally posted by DREDZ@Jul 30 2003, 07:29 PM Those are ill, but I'd thought you were gonna post your own. Quoted post The legendary Cope 2 is makin a canvas for you man i didn't know he made canvases wat about Daim he makes pretty sick ones too go to daim.org to check some of his shit out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Wasn't this on eBay? I wanted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomaq Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 yall are spitting hard knowledge i have no choice but to listen !!!!!!!!!!!!!! card board is pissing me off now anyway ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIZENO Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Joker said plywood ... if you want to save even more do it on 1/4 inch masonite ....HomeDepot sells it pre-cut sections for $2/$3 !!!!!!!!! go back to where the wood is and find a section with cubby hole type set up and it will be in there in sereval sizes , Take advantage !!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Even masonite can be fragile. Though lots of people do paint on it and it works just as well as wood. Erizeno is right... HD has little cubby sections by their wood selection where they have pre-cut pieces of wood in several different sizes. Something to consider. As for canvas work... I know it doesn't come cheap when it's pre-stretched. So look for deals and sales. Almost every major city has a discount art supply store. Check there. Also, keep in mind that if you do paint on canvas, and plan on doing something special... make sure you don't buy the cheap ass half inch thick framed canvas. Spend the extra loot for the thicker and more sturdy canvas. Plus, as a bonus to saving money down the road, you don't have to frame a thicker canvas. And just to reiterate... I'm not dissing you Nomaq. Just trying to pass on some advice. Hope we're cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willy.wonka Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 wood is the shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willy.wonka Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 nice work on the last page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some pittsburgh flavor Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 all in progress... suggestions? do they even show up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Fronts Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I really like the middle one. If I'm seeing them right, your leaving parts of the cnavases ungesoed. If thats the case I'm digging the effect. I like the bottom part of the top one, where you have mallstrom with oil stick or something along the lines. The last one seems the most incomplete, but I think thats part of the look. You have some really good shit, and it's always a fresh breathe of air from seeing slapped tother shit by unheard of premedona shitty graffiti heads biting the fuck out of brand names. It's good to see somebody making art. - Yellow Mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willy.wonka Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 i dont like those.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOOGLE? Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 NEEDS MORE HOT PINK WILLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willy.wonka Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 haha, you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deceipt Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 nomak: you been tryin to get screen printing equipment too!? haha, get at me about that. i'd be down to throw down on that with you. i been tryin to get my hands on some equipment myself. i'll IM you next time i see you on. seeking and joker: i agree with what you are both saying about selling things painted on cardboard. there is no denying that your right. about your comments on white people too, lol. but anyways, like i said before, thats the reason i havent really tried to pursue a career in art; just cuz im hardheaded like nomak said and believe "art is art, not material or media" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overtime Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 you are gay balls......all of you, i could fight each of you, llllllllllllwith fists and guns... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infamouscraze Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 i think all of you are right... about everything youve said about nomaks paintings... but... ive seen nomaks stuff all around my home town... ive seen his style progressions, his karries, everything, and personally, i like the flava that the cardboard brings to his style... i think it totally fits the way i see his art... ive seen it on wood, on walls, on bridges too... and no matter the material, i think it all soots that cat... hes got hella mad skills... keep rockin the cardboard... im lovin it... i think its a great media for what your rockin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83. Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 ive never painted on wood before..that wasnt attached to someones fence or that paint resistant rectangle on a freight. haha. anyway.. any type of wood in particular that works better with spraypaint? how should i prepare the surface before i paint it? any tips are appreciated x10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIPHER_one Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Pitt Flavor: I really enjoy those. especially the second one. The first one is really nice too...but I find it a bit too busy. Willy: not into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz technic Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deceipt Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 nice, you can never go wrong with red/white/and black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decu goldyn1 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 damn jazz i'm glad to see something new of yours - i really like that piece its got a african/central american feel to it - dope indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DEE38 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 willy im your biggest fan. (did i tell you that already??) new ones. cat bunny poop n pee all over the damn place hop. hip hop. *note, all bunnies praise allah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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casekonly Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 fantastic dee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
why write? Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 i love the bunnies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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