gasfacevictm Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 That said, there's nothing wrong with coffee or cigs. Cigarettes themselves are nasty garbage. That's just me though. I don't understand them. I don't like coffee either, but that's just whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 im not suggesting smoking as a part of a workout regimin. I'm just saying some athletes smoke and still are serious athletes.... and any form of nutritional elitism is fucking retarded. People should just do what works for them, and respect others for finding their own way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 i smoke almost every day and i can feel it effecting my running. but its not bad enough to quit one or the other. edit: not cigs though, i dont fuck with those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 im not suggesting smoking as a part of a workout regimin. I'm just saying some athletes smoke and still are serious athletes.... and any form of nutritional elitism is fucking retarded. People should just do what works for them, and respect others for finding their own way. Are you suggesting that cigarettes are part of a nutritional program that I am disparaging? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Ive always been confused about the whole Creatine/Protein thing... EXPLAIN NAO PLZ CASEK? Creatine is a natural substance found in the body. We get it from eating meats. When you supplement with it, it draws water to the muscles aiding in recovery, add a bit of strength, and a whole lot of swole to your muscles. I'm of the opinion that causing sarcoplastic swelling is a benefit because it forces the fibers to grow, therefore aiding in actually making your muscles larger. This would be over some time of cycling on and off. In other news, I just had this bad ass zombie dream. I was on a farm and I had to drive to town to get something, but it was on a lawn mower b/c nothing else was available. I had a shotgun and something else on my lap (I can't figure out how I was driving) but I did get to blast at least one zombie in the face while driving at 30mph (fast lawn mower) before it all ended. Yeah, my dreams are fucked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 You ever take melatonin? That shit tweaks my dreams in strange ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat ralphy Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 yeah melatonin is awesome. did a workout designed for BJ Penn tonight, its called "Fight Gone Bad" pretty sore right now....tomorrow morning should suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Ha! I did that before. It took me a while to get through it. Crossfit hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Yeah, melatonin rocks my dreams but not as bad as GABA. That shit is wild. I just realized that in that dream there was a front gate type deal that was electrified but it wouldn't close all the way. There was also a lesbian in the town trying to fuck zombies but they were just ignoring her. So wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pissdrunkwhat?! Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 update: Stature is much more imposing. Strength and hand accuracy are beating these cheap bags and tools to death. time to step it upppppppp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 update: Stature is much more imposing. Strength and hand accuracy are beating these cheap bags and tools to death. time to step it upppppppp. From Convict Conditioning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I'M a huge nutritionalist, which makes me a total pussy compared to some 21 year old who's starting the day with a breakfast of champions. Plus he drinks like a fish on the weekends. Goes to show you how much of "health and fitness" is in your head, and you shouldnt underestimate anybody just because they smoke. That said, there's nothing wrong with coffee or cigs. Caffeine is good in the right doses. It stimulates the brain, muscle receptors, and boots your metabolism. That means you're more alert, you can lift more (because your body is using more muscle fibers), and you'll have better endurance. Your chances of dehydrating and therefor cramping is greatly increased, so make sure you stretch and have your water. Electrolytes will help you retain water in your muscles. Creatine will too, but two things about creatine: Your body produces it naturally and you can get more of it from eating meat, so unless you're an old fart, theres no need to take it. And if you do take it, your body will reduce its natural production. There's nothing sadder than an athlete who comes off supplements and cant keep up with his own normal workouts because his natural systems arent up to spec with his size, weight, etc. and depend on supplements to maintain. I missed this earlier because I pretty much ignore your posts, but this is wrong. Cigarettes and caffeine leach vitamins from your body. Creatine supplementation is ok if you cycle it. Your body only reduces production of creatine if you take it for too long and don't cycle. There's very little evidence that it will completely stop producing it. Cigarettes and coffee. Jeez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Arguing semantics with me doesnt make you any less of a faggot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Arguing semantics with me doesnt make you any less of a faggot. Semantics? Facts, son. You still mad because your brain damage doesn't allow you to make any fucking sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Stop being a nutrition elitist, Casek. Smoking cigarettes is just a different method to get the same results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Stop being a nutrition elitist, Casek. Smoking cigarettes is just a different method to get the same results. Same results = Living in the bay area and doing yoga to fulfill bro mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 lololololololol ok i'll leave the "fact" czeching to you guys. Ima go smoke a cig brb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 lololololololol ok i'll leave the "fact" czeching to you guys. I guess when you're a short bald cripple you need all the supplements and self help pdf files you can get. Because reading and learning about what you're doing is bad? Yeah, you're probably right. I should just listen to you and forget about the gains I've made because I'm not going to get anywhere without using a fucking machine to assist me. /taking up yoga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Dunno why you're pitting yourself against my opinions when i give zero shits about what you've read in a book/wikipedia/product marketing, compared to what i've learned from doing. If you think you've actually made gains by using creatine, stop taking it for a few months and see what happens. Or if you think you've gained muscle, test your body for fat percentage. Alllllll of it is water. You think you need that creatine but theres that dude over there starting his day with coffee and cigarettes that's still stronger than you. Not knocking you for what you're doing, just laughing at the funny parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Dunno why you're pitting yourself against my opinions when i give zero shits about what you've read in a book/wikipedia/product marketing, compared to what i've learned from doing. If you think you've actually made gains by using creatine, stop taking it for a few months and see what happens. Or if you think you've gained muscle, test your body for fat percentage. Alllllll of it is water. You think you need that creatine but theres that dude over there starting his day with coffee and cigarettes that's still stronger than you. Not knocking you for what you're doing, just laughing at the funny parts. 80% of our body is water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Creatine is good for hammering out a bit more work during your workout and helping recovery. If that isn't a simple enough formula for creating gains then...I just don't know what to tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 By soup's logic: Weight training if for faggots. Smoking and working out go hand in hand. Reading is stupid. Yoga is manly. Machines help you lift more = machines are good. Learn from the master, gents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Wat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Butter Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 run push ups sit ups pull ups thats my routine lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pissdrunkwhat?! Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 From Convict Conditioning? I couldn't say from Convict Conditioning. I incorporated quite a few of the workout's he had in the book but really took away nothing from his philosophy. I had already been on kind of a weird "I want to do calesthenics and whatever is hard work" routine. in C.C. there wasn't any dips which I do alllll the time. swimming, beating up my tire, hitting my heavy/speed/slip bags. but my homie challenged me the other night drunk and i banged out three hand stand push-up's in front of him his girl and the girly i was flirtin on. paaaaaaow! So, i got something from that book, Thanks Casek. :lol: I love havin sex, but gettin heads the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Yoga in smoke filled rooms with machines holding you in the positions is the ultimate burn, br0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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armand hammer Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 i smoke after the gym..i like it sothere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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