angelofdeath Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Dont know the name of the machine, but it's a power rack with the bar integrated into it with hooks so you cant actually drop the bar or lower it unevenly. You know what im talking about. Loaded that thing up with 4x45's and put a bench under it, so you'd squat, sit down at 90 degrees, then bring the bark back up. Did that 10x5. Suuuper intuitive. Felt great. . sorry man... but smith machine squats just justified everything gasfacevictim has said about you. and a bench doesnt put you at parallel unless you are 7' tall. if this were the case squatters would not squat onto a box, they would just squat onto a bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezz Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Injured myself in may and haven't lifted since. Going to start up soon. I'm expecting my lifts to have shot down, horribly. I damaged my rotator cuff on my right arm. Old maxes were, Bench: 255, Squat: 225x10 Deadlift: 375. I'll see what they are at within the next week, i'm not expecting them to be good, so i'm going to max then start a 5/3/1 routine. Those maxes were done at around 150lbs and now i'm 148lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 AOD, Hahaha another hella internetsy argument in this thread. Box, bench... The difference is focus, which you apparently didnt read in the paragraph above the quote. Anything below 90 degrees makes my knee snapcracklepop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Disinformation troll is disinformative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 AOD, Hahaha another hella internetsy argument in this thread. Box, bench... The difference is focus, which you apparently didnt read in the paragraph above the quote. Anything below 90 degrees makes my knee snapcracklepop. you arent even squatting. you are bending your knees on a smith machine. if you cant get parallel (sitting onto a bench does not equal parallel) because of your knees, you need to work that out first. and a smith machine isnt helping matters. widen your stance, get off the smith machine, and stick your ass back as far as you can. you squat with your ass, hams, glutes... not quads. the only people complaining of knee problems when squatting are people that dont know how to squat. period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 seriously... if you cant get below parallel you arent squatting. i know 16 year olds who can squat 100lbs over your max AND almost touch their achilles to their hamstrings while doing it. GET BIG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Thats weird, because my hams and glutes are pretty sore right now... so i must've been squatting with my quads :rolleyes:... AOD you're rambling about proper squatting technique that isnt any different than what you do on a smith machine. Feet shoulder length apart, Resting weight on heels, not toes, unless you're deliberately working on the quads etc... You'd know this if you were speaking from experience and not just some internerd who reads a lot. Lol what's my squat max? I've never said it, because im not a faggot who gives a shit about bragging about maxes on a fucking forum. Where do you people get this shit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 you mean knee bends on a rack that doesnt train any stability muscles and leads to knee problems. got ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Thats weird, because my hams and glutes are pretty sore right now... so i must've been squatting with my quads :rolleyes:... because theres only 2 muscles in your legs :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 you mean knee bends on a rack that doesnt train any stability muscles and leads to knee problems. got ya You must have forgotten, Soup has family that are bankers. He KNOWS how the fed works. We didn't read "Game Theory". That is how it works, AOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Those last three posts are just sheer idiocy. Sike this whole thread is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Thats weird, because my hams and glutes are pretty sore right now... so i must've been squatting with my quads :rolleyes:... AOD you're rambling about proper squatting technique that isnt any different than what you do on a smith machine. Feet shoulder length apart, Resting weight on heels, not toes, unless you're deliberately working on the quads etc... You'd know this if you were speaking from experience and not just some internerd who reads a lot. Lol what's my squat max? I've never said it, because im not a faggot who gives a shit about bragging about maxes on a fucking forum. Where do you people get this shit? do squat contests happen on smith machines? (wait, you didnt even know the name of the machine, but anway...) do you see guys squatting any decent weight with their feet shoulder fucking width apart? if your feet are shoulder width apart, you are mostly using your quads. if you actually think that squatting on a smith machine and on a monolift or squat rack is the same, i just dont know what to tell you. you should just probably stick to yoga. so lets recap... you didnt even know what a smith machine was called. you think that keeping your legs shoulder with apart is the proper way to squat. you think a bench puts you "90 deg" yet you cant perform a proper depth squat because your knees hurt, most likely from squatting like an idiot asking for injury on a smith machine. the reason why i know this? because i had knee problems, low back problems and lower quad aches from using a smith machine and listening to guys like you. once i learned proper technique, i havent had an ache in 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 <cough> Check this out: MOVNAT and this METHODE NATURELLE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUMCv7f4NF0&feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R@ndomH3ro Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Fuck max squatting, if you can do one legged squats you are the man Also doing air squats on a ball or balance board is hard as shit, I tried and can only do like 20 before I fall off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Ok AOD you've convinced me what i was doing in the gym yesterday never happened. My legs werent at 90 degrees. My feet werent shoulder length apart. Both of my knees and lower back hurt and instantly were blown out. Oh and my legs are on backwards so my hams are actually my quads and my quads are actually my hams. And the people I was squatting with definitely havent been doing squats for football for the last six years. Congrats on your 2-3 years without injury btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Soup: Proper way to squat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kawBY5p29fQ and because I'm madly in love with Nicole Gordon never gets old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Thats retarded. Im not fucking bringing my knees out in front of my toes. Also if you want to keep your back straight, just keep you chin up and look at a point on the ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 HAHAHAHA... Troll toll must be paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 <shakes head> Back to reality. Gasface, check out those vids that I posted on bottom of the last page. MovNat seems right up your alley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Look it up morons. All your crossfit workouts and everything else you guys evangelize tells you it leads to knee injury. Better yet go do it and tell me if your knees are getting a good workout. hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Soup, no. Casek, I watched it yesterday. That guy's barefoot shenanigans scare my feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 i just sent the memo out to the entire power/olympic lifting community that Soup has spoken on the squat issue. they are now changing all the traditional training styles to smith machines, shoulder width stances, dime plates under their heels, and sitting on benches while using the smith machine. new squat world record will now take place from these new improved stances. guaranteed. from to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 You apparently missed this Some of the things we did were different so i thought i'd explain one of the best exercises for hamstrings that i've done without putting resistance on the knee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Thank God that Rippetoe doesn't know what he's talking about. His workout plans made my muscles hurt. Any of you guys know of a good yoga place in the Knoxville area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Look it up morons. All your crossfit workouts and everything else you guys evangelize tells you it leads to knee injury. Better yet go do it and tell me if your knees are getting a good workout. hahaha what leads to injury? squatting like an idiot on a smith machine? exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 You apparently missed this you were watching this werent you... before you and your 'football' buddies were doing your smith machine knee bends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 The only person that's apparently been injured during squats is you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 The only person that's apparently been injured during squats is you. you mean doing knee bends on a smith machines. affirmative. smith machines lead to injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 This is up Soup's alley. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzUwfNQ8gRc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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