lord_casek Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Harold: What's your background as far as weight training? I'm just curious. Can't tell if you're an older gym rat or a competitive sports person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Excuse me if I don't believe everything I read. If you read everything ever written for T-nation or any other weight lifting knowledge forum you would end up with a base of knowledge in contradiction. There are tons of articles telling people not to run outdoors because it's high impact and bad for joints and that they should use treadmills instead. All hogwash. Sure, olympic lifts can injure you if you don't bother to learn how to perform them properly. So can anything else. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong or more knowledgeable than you, but those lifts are worth the risk. And if you figure out how to do them, there really isn't much risk. P.S.- boost, post your biceps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 I'm not comfortable specifying my age but I've been lifting for about 9 years (including a few breaks) with a focus on strength for roughly the last 6. After a recent 6 month or so break I have been back in the game now for about 4 months using the 531 progression. I formally worked as a bouncer and strength training complimented my ability to work and fight. Now I just enjoy it as a hobby and as way to keep relatively healthy. Cool. I wasn't trying to get all personal. Just wondering from what side of things you are coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crack rock steady Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Wake up, do yoga. Have sex. Don't eat unless its good for me and im hungry. Stay quick fast and wiry. MOVE QUICK. That's my personal choice. I like to feel like i am floating, and usually am. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlando Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 what are some effective tricep workouts? (ie sets/reps) mainly stick to skullcrushers, kickbacks etc. but no real results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 dips, weighted dips, rolling extensions, pushdowns w/ super sets, close grip bench, tricep death, tricep ladders also, defranco's points on oly lifts are well taken. you dont need them to get explosive for sure and his main point holds lots of weight... takes to much time to teach people to do them right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Don't forget diamond pushups, AOD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGatsby Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 +1 for Cleans, and another +1 for the push press I learned to lift training for sports. I'm not nearly as nimble as I'd like to be or as nimble as I once was, but cleans are one of the few exercises I can do in the gym that work on total body agility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlando Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 tricep ladders? diamond pushups wreck my wrists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeroUno Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Don't forget diamond pushups, AOD. These. And burpee's. I'm sure everyone's familiar with p90x? the pushups where you lift the weights at same time. If anyone knows better and can elaborate with name, thatd be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technoheadphones Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 In Convict Conditioning, the author gives the impression that he's totally against weights and whatnot. So once you finish all the master steps in there, how much more progressive can you get without using weights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 @cerouno You mean rowing the dumbbells after the pushup? You don't have to do everything that convict conditioning guy says. I mean, you could just add reps to it every week, but after a while you would get bored as fuck. You could move on to more gymnastic type moves if you want further challenges in bodyweight only moves. There are plenty of ebooks for free online outlining gymnastic types of moves you can progress at if you want to avoid weights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlando Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 BURPEES are the business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 In Convict Conditioning, the author gives the impression that he's totally against weights and whatnot. So once you finish all the master steps in there, how much more progressive can you get without using weights? @cerouno You mean rowing the dumbbells after the pushup? You don't have to do everything that convict conditioning guy says. I mean, you could just add reps to it every week, but after a while you would get bored as fuck. You could move on to more gymnastic type moves if you want further challenges in bodyweight only moves. There are plenty of ebooks for free online outlining gymnastic types of moves you can progress at if you want to avoid weights. He's not against weights, he's just used to prisons without. Prisoners have to make due with what they have on hand. bodyweightculture is a site someone from here showed me. It's bad ass. Tons of things you can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Don't forget diamond pushups, AOD. F yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindle Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 i didnt even know this thread existed, this is great coz ive gotten a bit fat recently and i need to get fit again. gonna go back through all this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGatsby Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I'm at a shitty chain gym that has fuck all for free weights. They only have smith squat racks and I refuse to use those things. Other than lunges and step-ups, does anyone have any suggestions for free weight exercises for my legs? I'm working dead-lifts into my regime this week. In the past I've used the square shaped bars for dead lifts so I'll have to relearn with a straight bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T4M* Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 woot woot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Incognito Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I'm at a shitty chain gym that has fuck all for free weights. They only have smith squat racks and I refuse to use those things. Other than lunges and step-ups, does anyone have any suggestions for free weight exercises for my legs? I'm working dead-lifts into my regime this week. In the past I've used the square shaped bars for dead lifts so I'll have to relearn with a straight bar. haha where are you, planet fitness? that place is a joke. that was the first gym i joined. they had one ez curl barbell for the entire gym. no squat racks. no preacher benches. but about 100 treadmills and 30 step ups. and their dumbbells max out at 75lbs. shit is GOOFY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClownPrince Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I'm at a shitty chain gym that has fuck all for free weights. They only have smith squat racks and I refuse to use those things. Other than lunges and step-ups, does anyone have any suggestions for free weight exercises for my legs? I'm working dead-lifts into my regime this week. In the past I've used the square shaped bars for dead lifts so I'll have to relearn with a straight bar. i feel your pain. i've been doing weighted step ups for the last month due to the lack of a free weight squat rack at my gym as well. not entirely the same obviouslyy but i've found enough weight and enough reps, my legs are pretty sore the next day. i sacrifice once in awhile using the smith rack but it's just not the same. death to chain gyms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Found a large sand hill (dune?) to do sprints up. It's about 100 yards give or take. It makes my heart try to kill me. Score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pissdrunkwhat?! Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 hold yourself up by the elbow ditch, like a pull up with the middle of your arms. do leg lifts with weights behind your calves/knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Do more push ups always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 You're not the boss of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Shut up pennywaist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 You mean panty waste, Rhodes Scholar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pissdrunkwhat?! Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 haahahaha! 24'd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Penny waisted: Weak and fragile I said what I meant to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I'm sure you did, but it doesn't negate the fact that you just used the wrong words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 New word. New phrase Daniel Webster. At this point I'd give you a wedgie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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