CALIgula Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 thats the best exercise...fucking a fat girl. lifting her body weight...lifting your own body weight to maneuver around her rolls. best work out ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Fatty boobalatty needs da' splooga badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyWay Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 thats the best exercise...fucking a fat girl. lifting her body weight...lifting your own body weight to maneuver around her rolls. best work out ever. Good for endurance and cardio too. Usually takes me ages to spoont with a fattie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Incognito Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 As a guideline, never use machines or smith machines. They're nooo good. Cabled weights are acceptable though. Pros...correct me if I'm wrong. i'm not really trying to dispute this since i prefer free weights as much as possible but i think a smith machine can have some advantages. the biggest reason i use the smith is im not comfortable benching heavy weight without a spotter. so for me thats their best purpose, maxing out your weight without a spotter. even though the Fonz once dropped a bench bar on himself and he's the definition of cool, its best to avoid that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumboclot. Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 When you max out your weight on a smith machine, it is going to be way different (easier) if you were to try to lift the same weight on a flat bench. If you're worried about a spotter, just ask someone random at the gym if they can get you with a spot real quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Smith machines are good for people with injuries and rehab type shiznit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toluene_causes_tumors Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1_Ki0MKY20 gets you real strong and puts your heart rate through the roof. make sure you crap before you do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 shit. i thought that VVV was a smith machine for the longest time. now all this makes sense haha i was sitting here trying to think of how thats any different then a bench....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 i'm not really trying to dispute this since i prefer free weights as much as possible but i think a smith machine can have some advantages. the biggest reason i use the smith is im not comfortable benching heavy weight without a spotter. so for me thats their best purpose, maxing out your weight without a spotter. even though the Fonz once dropped a bench bar on himself and he's the definition of cool, its best to avoid that this always sounds good on the face and i believed it for a long time. however the smith machine puts you in an improper plane with the bar, and results in an natural movement. which is especially detrimental when using a maximal weight method/1rm etc. just be prepared for shoulder injuries. its not a matter of if, its just a matter of when. best bet is to lower your weight to 5 or 3RM's that you can handle yourself and wait for a spotter for heavy 3rm's, doubles or singles using proper form on a real bench. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 When you max out your weight on a smith machine, it is going to be way different (easier) if you were to try to lift the same weight on a flat bench. If you're worried about a spotter, just ask someone random at the gym if they can get you with a spot real quick. it also usually results in your pushing the weight forward while pushing up, which is un natural in an actual bench press. same way with a squat. you push backwards as well as upwards when coming out of the whole. which basically means your stabilizer muscles are f'ed on the move. its always fun to watch the guy that quarter squats or half benches on the smith machine get under a bar on an actual rack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facemeltAAARGH Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Okay, on some serious shit... lets say you just downed some of the good ol' pre-workout curse (whether Jack3d or no-xplode)... but then you had to take a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE fucking dump right after, do you still get the effects or is it completely down the drain? literally.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 this always sounds good on the face and i believed it for a long time. however the smith machine puts you in an improper plane with the bar, and results in an natural movement. which is especially detrimental when using a maximal weight method/1rm etc. just be prepared for shoulder injuries. its not a matter of if, its just a matter of when. best bet is to lower your weight to 5 or 3RM's that you can handle yourself and wait for a spotter for heavy 3rm's, doubles or singles using proper form on a real bench. it also usually results in your pushing the weight forward while pushing up, which is un natural in an actual bench press. same way with a squat. you push backwards as well as upwards when coming out of the whole. which basically means your stabilizer muscles are f'ed on the move. its always fun to watch the guy that quarter squats or half benches on the smith machine get under a bar on an actual rack this is sooo true. my workout partner quit after a few months of lifting and i needed a spot for benching and instead tried using the smith machine. the angle was so awkward that i quit benching on it after my warm up set. someone said it, but you are better off just asking someone for a spot. it isnt that good for squating either. theres this cute girl at my gym that uses it to do squats and the angle she is squating at makes me cringe....it looks like she is going to throw her back out. but i dont want to go up to her and try to correct her, because she will probably think im trying to get at her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toluene_causes_tumors Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 i see a lot of people put their feet wayyy in front of themselves when doing smith machine squats to compensate for the angle. looks really bad for the knees and back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 ^^yeah....thats exactly how the girl was doing her squats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Okay, on some serious shit... lets say you just downed some of the good ol' pre-workout curse (whether Jack3d or no-xplode)... but then you had to take a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE fucking dump right after, do you still get the effects or is it completely down the drain? literally.. It takes a bit for the body to process the stuff you just downed. You're safe, no money wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Even Chinese food? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Incognito Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 this always sounds good on the face and i believed it for a long time. however the smith machine puts you in an improper plane with the bar, and results in an natural movement. which is especially detrimental when using a maximal weight method/1rm etc. just be prepared for shoulder injuries. its not a matter of if, its just a matter of when. best bet is to lower your weight to 5 or 3RM's that you can handle yourself and wait for a spotter for heavy 3rm's, doubles or singles using proper form on a real bench. thanks for the advice. i haven't had any injuries yet thankfully, and my shoulders never are in pain but i probably will just start using the regular bench presses more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Incognito Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 by the way can anyone recommend a good protein powder that doesn't taste like absolute shit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Even Chinese food? Sorta. by the way can anyone recommend a good protein powder that doesn't taste like absolute shit? Steak and peanut butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Seriously, you don't need protein powders and all those shitty supplements unless you're some competitive lifter who is in need of insane amounts of protein that would be very difficult to put down with normal food. Stop reading muscle mags. Protein powder isn't bad to have around for a quick on the go supply, but you should really just eat real food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Incognito Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 the only supplements i care to fuck with are protein and creatine, both of which i'll cycle. i don't see how that hurts anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 It doesn't hurt anything. I got protein from wal-mart. It doesn't taste so bad. It's vanilla flavored. I don't really ever taste it though, because I either mix it with stuff or chug it with water. I use it sparingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Incognito Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 i've tried some of the body fortress stuff from there cus it was cheap and i read all positive reviews of it online but i tried some other brand, for some fucking awful reason i thought banana cream would be a good flavor and thinking about it now makes me wanna puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Soup swears by ON, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Whey powder if you want to fill up and not take in as many calories. Sill, the best way is to eat like a normal fuckin person. Well not normal in regard to the shit all of us cram in our mouths when wanting to. I don't know, people desire different results. Me? I don't go to the gym. I don't take supplements. I use a minimal amount of free weights. I keep it simple. Sure my routine won't give you disgustingly sized muscles but it will strengthen you properly. Most people I talk to in regard to my routine scoff at it. Mainly because they want quicker results well at least, more obvious results I spose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 thanks for the advice. i haven't had any injuries yet thankfully, and my shoulders never are in pain but i probably will just start using the regular bench presses more. yeah man, when i started trying to get strong and not just big, i started using the 5x5 and starting strength type routines. i was scared to go heavy on the bench so i used the smith machine for a long time thinking it was the same. after doing this a while, i kept having recurring shoulder pain every couple months. i then got on the real bench and got proper form and descended with my lats and never had any more problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 alright you mf'rs joined a real gym finally. im talking a REAL gym. monolift, atlas stones, 3 competition benches, 5 squat racks, more dumbells than i've ever seen in my life, thick bar, cambered bar, safety squat bar, kettle bells every where, dead lift platform, prowler, and the rest of the conventional machines. tractor tire in the back parking lot. work out reports to follow next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Should be pushing down trees with your hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Should be pushing down trees with your hands. reminded me of this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 THIS GUY IS A ☜link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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