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MOOGLE? Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 MORE NEWS GUIDES Upgrade to a Premier Subscription Customize ▾ OpenForum Login/Join Security Impressed by FBI trojan, Germans write their own—and national scandal ensues By Matthew Lasar | Published about 14 hours ago It has been pretty chaotic in German Chancellor Angela Merkel's cabinet ever since the Chaos Computer Club dumped some alarming technology news in her lap. Turns out that the German government's "lawful interception" application, supposedly designed only to monitor IP telephone calls, is just a little more powerful than the police let on. Berlin-based CCC released its analysis of Germany's "Quellen- TKÜ" ("source wiretapping") trojan on Saturday. The results weren't pretty. Despite a constitutional court ban on the use of malware to crack PCs, the state-sanctioned malware's makers didn't even bother to add technical barriers ensuring that the code would only be used for tapping Internet telephone conversations. "On the contrary, the design included functionality to clandestinely add more components over the network right from the start, making it a bridge-head to further infiltrate the computer," CCC's report noted. But that's only the start of what this application can do: The government malware can, unchecked by a judge, load extensions by remote control, to use the trojan for other functions, including but not limited to eavesdropping. This complete control over the infected PC—owing to the poor craftsmanship that went into this trojan—is open not just to the agency that put it there, but to everyone. It could even be used to upload falsified "evidence " against the PC's owner, or to delete files, which puts the whole rationale for this method of investigation into question. Gray areas Keep in mind that this revelation comes as Merkel is trying to rescue about a quarter of Europe via a Eurozone bailout fund. She was touring Vietnam on Wednesday, dismissing Slovakia's rejection of the plan, a day after her Minister of Justice Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger called for a national- and state- level inquiry over the use of the trojan. Who will be investigated? The German state of Bavaria says it has used Quellen-TKÜ, but legally, its officials insist. Wired reports that Bavaria approached the Federal Bureau of Investigation in 2007 to learn more about US malware techniques. Three other German states admit they've accessed the trojan—only to go after very bad criminals, of course. Alas, Germany's crazy-quilt coalition politics have closed in on the scandal a lot faster than the Minister's promised probe. Merkel's government consists of members of the Christian Democratic Union and the Free Democratic Party, and they've been quarrelling over how to handle this mess. Leutheusser- Schnarrenberger of the FDP says she wants action as fast as possible, but leaders of Bavaria's Christian Social Union, allied with the CDU, are now accusing the minister of "putting the police in a legal gray area," as one newspaper describes the charge . Bavaria's Interior Minister Joachim Herrmann bluntly says he has no problem with the application. "These are measures that are clearly defined by the federal government, and which the constitutional court has allowed for use in investigating serious crime," he told a local newspaper. Not surprisingly then, Der Spiegel reports that while Interior Minister Hans-Peter Friedrich of the CSU has encouraged all states to put a freeze on the malware program, he has also warned cabinet ministers not to burden investigators with too much "general suspicion." None of this is sitting very well with the FDP, whose leaders have gone so far as to hold a meeting with the CCC and call on Friedrich to move on the issue as quickly as possible. "We have to show German citizens that this coalition takes the protection of their private sphere seriously," Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger warned. Hand-crafted? Agreed, say leaders of Germany's smaller but feisty Pirate Party , whose servers were seized by the government four months ago. "There is no possible way to install a Trojan horse in a way that adheres to legal requirements," the party's Sebastian Nerz told a news agency. The CCC revelations show that German officials possess "either a certain naivety or the intent to breach the constitution." It's unlikely that any of this infighting is encouraging for the CCC, which has been tracking Quellen-TKÜ for at least three years. The group says that in 2008 German officials assured it that all versions of the trojan would be be "hand- crafted for the specifics of each case." Guess that didn't happen, since CCC investigators now disclose that variations of the malware that they've collected have the same cryptographic key and "do not look hand-crafted at all." Needless to say, CCC's statement demands that all these shenanigans "must stop." At the same time, "we would like to call on all hackers and people interested in technology to further analyze the malware, so that at least some benefit can be reaped from this embarrassing eavesdropping attempt," the commentary concludes. "Also, we will gladly continue to receive copies of other versions of government malware off your hands." Photograph by Markusram User comments Leave a Comment (24) Entegy | about 14 hours ago | permalink The government needs better hackers. sep332 | about 13 hours ago | permalink German newspaper FAZ printed 5 pages of assembly code: http://yfrog .com/z /h3 x13cjj And F-Secure decided to add it to their antivirus. http:// http://www.f- secure.com/ weblog/archives /00002249.html edit: so did Sophos http:// http://www.sophos.com /en-us/ threat-cent ... 2D 2- A.aspx Last edited by sep332 on Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:21 am HedPhuqt | about 13 hours ago | permalink What's Schneier have to say about this? Amon-Ra | about 13 hours ago | permalink There is one in Switzerland, too.. . hmmm.. .. Isn' t it interesting what happens in all these "free" countries, is it? It let's me remember a passage in Daniel Suarez's book "Freedom": 'They are tagged like sheep and have about as much say in the matter as sheep'. Boozy | about 13 hours ago | permalink Creating a trojan that can add and remove files to/from the infected computer is a huge mistake. Any suspect can defend now himself by claiming someone else uploaded the incriminating evidence. DrDenim | about 13 hours ago | permalink They had a show with that animation character guy there on Norwegian TV when I was a kid in the 80s! Only when I was way older did I learn that it was Soviet propaganda from the DDR. Good thing I escaped it without serious damage, comrade.. Last edited by DrDenim on Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:35 am Pirokobo | about 13 hours ago | permalink HedPhuqt wrote: What's Schneier have to say about this? Forget Schneier. What does Microsoft have to say? In the end there is only one "law " when it comes to government use of trojans and that's the maker of the world they play in. If Microsoft or an AV maker says it's malware and codes against it, that's it. a7363922 | about 13 hours ago | permalink Thanks for covering this! Greetings from Germany mmnw | about 13 hours ago | permalink The article doesn't really state the underlying problems, and the amateurism the police displayed with this trojan. The original problem was encrypted audio and video chat, which can not be listened to by classic wiretapping. Therefore the police would need to install the trojan to intercept audio and video before it is encrypted. But the constitutional court, which is considered a very strong defender of german citizen rights, ruled, that this can only be done in clearly defined cases. It was understood, that the trojan used, needed technical limitations to ensure it can only be used for wiretapping. Anything beyond this, i.e. searching the hard drive, taking screen shots, etc, would be considered a classic search, which requires a classic search warrant and therefore give notice to the suspect. What the CCC argues is, that the trojan used did not have enough technical limitations to limit it's function to wiretapping. Indeed it would be possible, once the trojan was installed, to upload other trojan modules, therefore upgrading any functionality there was initially. What makes this even worse, is the amateurism, with which this trojan was obviously build. It seems the police just bough it from some local company, never checking the actual functionality. It also seems, that by german law, any evidence collected with this program is moot, since police would have a hard time to prove the recordings were not tampered with. Obviously the police did not give this enough thought. In addition: this trojan was bough and employed by the bavarian state police, and in some limited cases rented to police agency of other states. On the federal level, all police agencies have denied using this solution (or any) . MyCat | about 13 hours ago | permalink HedPhuqt wrote: What's Schneier have to say about this? Not much. He briefly mentioned it yesterday. am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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