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Re: Banksy sticks it to Paris

 

No, Banksy is more in the catagory of a 'marketing man's artist'.

 

 

i dont know the mans politics, maybe if i did i wouldnt like him ... i dont know. i do like what he does though. i especially liked the wall on the West Bank.

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Re: Banksy sticks it to Paris

 

i dont get why people always argue about this guy

he punked paris, it was funny

no need to write a thesis

 

i think it's just as much of a statement as it is a publicity stunt.

banksy isn't just some graffiti artist with political views.

he's also a marketing genius (maybe that's too strong of a word).

 

it's the same thing with stars and their porn tapes. career starts going

down the tubes, make a porn tape. oops, it got stolen. now you're the talk of the town.

 

what's that old saying? "say what you want about me, just spell my name correctly"

 

yeah.

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Paris hiltons new cd

 

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=8574

 

http://www.waleg.com/photos/displayimage.php?album=558&pos=2

Paris Hilton's debut pop effort has been sabotaged in the UK by a guerrilla graffiti artist.

 

Banksy, who has become notorious for his painted pranks, smuggled 500 doctored copies of the hotel heiress' first album into music stores around Britain.

 

The CDs see Hilton's sugary pop overwritten by Banksy's own beats, while the album artwork has been altered so that Hilton's face is replaced by her dog and the track listing reads as a series of inane questions, including, "Why am I famous?"

 

On the album cover Banksy's digital wizardry has repositioned Hilton's dress to expose her breasts.

 

The street artist's musical composition features Hilton's catch phrase "That's hot!" dubbed over 40 minutes of a basic rhythm track.

 

Credits on the CD point the finger at Banksy and a collaborator called Mr. DM -- thought to be Danger Mouse, one half of Gnarls Barkley.

 

The credit reads, "I want to thank Dr. Dre for introducing me to the amazing talented couple Banksy and Mister DM, had so much fun working and writing with you both."

 

The CDs, meanwhile, are attracting big bids on eBay.

 

i just got to give banksy props on this one...

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i am to fucking lazy to search..... just to fucking lazy to search....

now i have to leave or i will be here all day... and i need to write a paper or 2 or something other then be here...

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Re: Banksy sticks it to Paris

 

not just banksy, and not just art. if you say one thing and do another you're a liar and a fake. i don't know why it riles me up so much, but it does. maybe i'm on a crusade for truth or something. or maybe i've got too much time to think about shit like this

 

 

 

 

Can you quote him on being a fake or a liar because I'd love to see what you're talking about.

 

 

On another note, Hilton's CD is selling like shit. 75,000 copies in first week and something like 20,000 predicted for next week. Considering they probably spent at least a million on making the CD and advertising, I hope it sinks the ship.

 

Edit: Not like selling 75,000 copies is easy or that she deserved anything more than negative amount sold, but then again most acts don't have a million or so put into their cd. Also, she's not touring because she has no talent which will hurt CD sales. The only contribution she made to that album is her voice and even that is questionable considering the amount of filters and pitch-correction that must have gone into the vocal tracks.

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Re: Banksy sticks it to Paris

 

Can you quote him on being a fake or a liar because I'd love to see what you're talking about.

 

 

look at his work, then read his interviews. you'll find plenty of contradictions. the main thing that stands out in my mind is the tate 'mind the crap' incident. to mock people for showing their work there, then to go and stick your own work in there in the hopes it will stay there is kinda retarded. which is it? you think museums are dumb, or is your goal to be immortalised in one?

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my rant on the subject

 

i'm bored and i thought about this a bit and why it is that i just don't like banksy. first ill say out of all the street artists out there him and obey giant are the best of that genre. banksy has taken concepts and artistically applied them successfully to street art. something that tends to lack in graffiti. graffiti isnt always planned out, may not have a concept, theme, or any thought process behind it. but then again it never needed one before.

 

with that said i'm not against people and their hustle. gallery shows, legal work, selling prints, books, ... anything that gets you closer to be able to do your art and pay your bills is what an artist should strive for. but it's the bridging of different groups that bugs me. is it inevitable? i cant say. im not at that level to speak. but fuck, it bugs me to go on other forum's art section where everyone hates on graffiti, talks about it being pointless, and no political message behind it, ruins property etc... but then they put banksy stuff as their avatar. talk about what prints they bought at his last show, and say how they're going to be in the uk next week and where can they peep his latest street work. the same girl i argued with for a whole day about graffiti was also the same person to happily announce how proud she was to present ray fong aka twist at the next in store gallery event. they say i dont like graffiti but i been diggin this guy neck face's stuff. oh its just so funny. so much better than the crappy graffiti that i'm used to seeing. oh where in tokyo can i find the bathing ape store. i wanna check out that kaws camo jacket. is it because we have no concept but they come up with a commercially viable one and that gives them the substance that makes them acceptable and cool? i dont know.

 

but what i do know is that i hate the bridge that connects me to them. i cant hate on the artists making dough. do i think kaws 2 foot plastic bear pieces of crap are cool? no, what a waste of fucking money, but if these same dorks are laying down that cash and he is getting money off of it i cant hate on that. did he get a grip of dough for that BA camo print? probably. where is the fine line where being an artist and famous and still having the respect of the same fan base that got you there is difficult for me to pinpoint. i still respect twist. anyone that went to sf in twists hey day can respect how much cool shit he had everywhere.

 

back to banksy. yeah he wants us to talk about him, i wouldnt doubt that him and dm are the ones with the bootlegs on ebay, its sensationalism. hey everyone i want to be on the tip of your tongues. talk about me until my next prank. a buck 65 line pops up in my head. "never underestimate the audience's intelligence" are we that dumb? i guess so. the same way the news takes a controversial look at the crock hunter feeding his kid to the crocks. we eat that shit up. he succeeded. cool stunt. i hate paris too. i saw that sex video she had and she looks like the most boring fuck in the world. she just sat their looking at herself in the reflection while getting it from behind. now what the hell did any of this have to do with graffiti/street art exactly? oh yeah it didn't, talk to my publicist. buy my book. hey dont forget my gnarls barkley cd! i'm going to make fun of popular icons while at the same time becoming popular. we are different not the same. right.

 

i dont really want to argue about this. whatever has to be said has been said. most people on here have already stated. i dont know anything about the guy and his politics but i like some of his stuff. i should probably do the same and keep it moving.

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Re: Banksy sticks it to Paris

 

look at his work, then read his interviews. you'll find plenty of contradictions. the main thing that stands out in my mind is the tate 'mind the crap' incident. to mock people for showing their work there, then to go and stick your own work in there in the hopes it will stay there is kinda retarded. which is it? you think museums are dumb, or is your goal to be immortalised in one?

 

 

 

I dunno, I like what he's done. He's making money but at least he's still putting in major work. The stuff that he did on the Isreali wall was pretty ballsy and was pretty amazing. Doing the Paris Hilton thing was also completely neccessary and brilliant. I know what you're saying but at the same time, there are hundreds of other artists out there that say the same thing. You don't want to exploit the art but at the same time you want to make money so you don't have to work in a warehouse or the Gap for the rest of your life.

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"the main thing that stands out in my mind is the tate 'mind the crap' incident. to mock people for showing their work there, then to go and stick your own work in there in the hopes it will stay there is kinda retarded. which is it? you think museums are dumb, or is your goal to be immortalised in one?"

 

I don't know... part of me thinks he knew it wouldn't last for too long and that when it was found the publicity he get from it being found would be akin to catching a hollow inside the Tate. It may run for a bit but eventually it will be found. And when it is, it's going to make news. That's how I saw all of his museum gags. An alternative to getting up, in his way.

 

I've met him briefly and read only a few interviews so I can't say that's how he indeed saw the idea behind the museum pieces, but it seems to make sense when you think about it the terms we all know behind writing and getting up. His core method seems linked to ours so I see similarities between what he does and what street bombers do. Though obviously not the same... there are similarities in reasons and method.

 

Not very intelligent for the conversation, I know, but I wanted to add my thoughts.

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Families visiting Disneyland on their holiday this week saw a life-size Guantanamo bay inmate standing inside the Rocky Mountain Railroad ride at Disneyland in Anaheim California.

 

The sculpture, consisting of an inflatable doll dressed in an orange jumpsuit with its hands and feet manacled remained in place for one and a half hours before Disneyland's security staff shut down the ride and removed it amid fears over public safety.

 

the artist:Banksy

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