Manifesto 0 Posted October 27, 2004 whats the deal with outlet store denim? is it not as good as their boutique shit? i constantly get jeans from polo/rl or guess from outlets. they usually go for at most 50 bucks...sometimes 2 for 60 or someshit. i only had one pair of guess fall apart on me within 1 month, but i think those were a lemon pair or something. my polo jeans hold up pretty well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misteraven 4,572 Posted October 28, 2004 outlet stores are referred to in the industry as strike out. this means anything they carry couldn't be sold by retailers, even after several rounds of sales (the discounts given at department store sales are generally absorbed by the brand) and after every regular retailer was given several chances to order the stuff at deep discounts. further, outlet stores are becoming increasingly dominated by margin builders that are predestined for strike out. these garments are generally designs and styles from older seasons or designs that didn't make the cut from a recent season, re-manufcatured using cheaper materials. for example in the case of denim, it'll usually be a much lighter grade of fabric, and often a much cheaper standard as well. further, often times they'll cut corners on trims, washes and finishing. Most consumers aren't sophisticated enough, experienced enough, or interested enough to realize these differences. Generally, they simply see stuff being sold in department stores for far more, and thus feel like it's a bargain when they see a garment by the same brand, for a bit less at an outlet store, never really catching onto the fact that it's a bait and switch type scenario. I'm sure most of you have that feeling in your gut while at an outlet that something isn't quite right about the clothes there. Irregular items are a very small part of what they stock at outlets since most of this isn't even released from the vendor manufacturing the stuff for the brand. Other strike out retailers include Marshall's TJ Maxx, Burlington Coat Factory, and many others. Your best bet is shopping at sales from regular retailers, but fact is you usually get what you pay for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
26SidedCube 10 Posted October 28, 2004 About 4 years back when I was staying in Berlin I dropped 190dm on a pair of Ecko pants with weird heavy-denim kneepads stitched onto them. I recieved stupid amounts of compliments and rocked those fuckers almost every day for 2 years until I eventually blew out the thighs from washing/hopping fences. Those were some damn fine jeans and they were just bullshit Euro-stock Eckos (which I might add, it seems most of the booty brands in the US send their nice stuff to Europe and not the US), but it was more than I've spent on any pants prior or since and I must say.. I can't imagine how nice denim get after you start paying $200+ a pair. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manifesto 0 Posted October 29, 2004 thanks for the info misteraven. im the type of guy who doesnt really like their jeans for a good month. so i would be hesitant to buy 200$ pair to take the chance of not liking them later. ill buy the bargain jeans...and then buy 3 more pairs of the same thing a month later. keep them around till each pair destroy themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misteraven 4,572 Posted October 29, 2004 Originally posted by 26SidedCube@Oct 28 2004, 11:40 AM About 4 years back when I was staying in Berlin I dropped 190dm on a pair of Ecko pants with weird heavy-denim kneepads stitched onto them. I recieved stupid amounts of compliments and rocked those fuckers almost every day for 2 years until I eventually blew out the thighs from washing/hopping fences. Those were some damn fine jeans and they were just bullshit Euro-stock Eckos (which I might add, it seems most of the booty brands in the US send their nice stuff to Europe and not the US), but it was more than I've spent on any pants prior or since and I must say.. I can't imagine how nice denim get after you start paying $200+ a pair. Quoted post Often times, brands license their name to licensees or distributors in foreign territories instead of shipping product. This is because there's usually a big different in style/taste from one place to another, and the assumption is they could more successfully predict and fulfill product in their own areas. Usually the main brand needs to approve the designs, but often times everyone is on such a tight deadline or disorganized that it never happens. Either way, this is why you see different cars, electronics, and clothing that differ from one country to another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giving Tree 0 Posted October 30, 2004 seeking, for under 150, shoot for paper cloth and denim. i LOVE lucky jeans. im a fairly built guy and have a 35 inch waist... it's a bitch to find pants for me most of the time. either a 36 too big or 34 too tight on the legs... 35 is a solid rock. lucky has ALWAYS taken care of me, and as thin as some pair are, if you CARE for them you get 2 or 3 years out of them, and for 70-80 bucks i dont mind paint on a few of them. the only problems i see are the holes you do get rip alot, since it's cross-woven denim, almost the OPPOSITE of ripstop. check out some stuff at guyshop.com they tend to have some nice stuff by up-and-comers and seem to stay in your price range. returns are easy there if you dont like what you get, or you could always find a style you like and see if you can find a place in your area that carries that brand... which is what i do. yellowratbastard.com has some decent stuff too, a little lower in price but some good brands.. i haven't bought pants in a LONG time.. probably 6 months or so, fucking office job and no job before that. i'm now the ralph lauren / banana republic whore. but it's about time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gangsta_Lean 0 Posted October 30, 2004 with bills and my hobbies eating a hole in my wallet every month i cant bring myself to spend more than 50 bucks for jeans. i still seem to find more than a few pair, usually for about $40. i usually just wear some plain diesel jeans, they fit me well and most people dont want them because they arent flashy enough for hipsters and they dont look like a homeless painter previously owned them, so they just get marked down all the time. i also wear G-star, their A-crotch series is the shit. can be pricey (more than 200 a pair sometimes) but i've been wearing them for a while and they would also get marked down cause people didnt know what they were. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fondles 29 Posted October 30, 2004 I spend money on good clothes, simply because of three reasons: 1. I earn alllll my money and can spend it how I want 2. I like quality clothing, I understand the $50 levi argument, but I like to wear (real!) coogi, some iceberg, girbaud, davoucci (yesyesyes), mitchell & ness jerseys (300ish price tag on 1 jersey), etc. 3. Obviously design and look is important, as superficial as that might seem. Tell you the truth, where I live we don't have any of those fancy schmancy brands yall got, seven prsps or whatever, I've never even seen those before. We just bout 5 years behind down herre. : ( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CLICKCLACKONER 342 Posted October 30, 2004 Originally posted by Seldoon@Oct 30 2004, 12:41 PM 2. I like quality clothing, I understand the $50 levi argument, but I like to wear (real!) coogi, some iceberg, girbaud, davoucci (yesyesyes), mitchell & ness jerseys (300ish price tag on 1 jersey), etc. Quoted post you :gaga: got really bad taste. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gangsta_Lean 0 Posted October 30, 2004 Originally posted by JesusMachine+Oct 30 2004, 06:40 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JesusMachine - Oct 30 2004, 06:40 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Seldoon@Oct 30 2004, 12:41 PM 2. I like quality clothing, I understand the $50 levi argument, but I like to wear (real!) coogi, some iceberg, girbaud, davoucci (yesyesyes), mitchell & ness jerseys (300ish price tag on 1 jersey), etc. Quoted post you :gaga: got really bad taste. Quoted post [/b] i wouldnt personally rock anything he listed but hey, to each his own. besides, he said everything is about 5 years behind where he is from. shit, i remember when Iceberg was the hottest shit around in 2001 and those horrible Coogi sweaters with the matching hats were "in" in 2000. shit, if you think about it, the shit he is rocking is actually a few months ahead where he is from. (just so you know, "button ups" and Lacoste Polos will be "in" next since Jay-z said he stopped wearing jerseys on the black album... just wanted to give you the heads up.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUNBUNBIGGY 10 Posted November 11, 2004 Iceberg was hot before 2001, it was at its prime in the late 90's Coogie too (biggie raps a verse about coogie, "coogie down to the socks"). Anything after Y2K, the quality of both brands went dddoowwwwnnnnn. Bad move for those companies. YO RAVEN.. What are your thoughts on evisu? I think the denim is crazy nice. I just hate the fact that the gullwing logo looks like mcdonald arches on your ass. Haha. D90 - Word sun, been in the game for too dam long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jo king 0 Posted November 12, 2004 When i was in NYC, evisu seemed to b a brand "to have". Here in the Uk its been played out..u got every joe blogg fool rocking evisu, doesnt help u got truck loads of fakes at all the markets!!!! i Liked the armani exchange store near soho still!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUNBUNBIGGY 10 Posted November 12, 2004 I dont rock shit for to be trendy, I rock shit cause i like it. Evisu quality is crazy. Im just not to fond of the logo on the ass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeking 294 Posted November 12, 2004 yeah, it's just too bad evisu is the only company making quality jeans. :rolleyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k2theLO 0 Posted November 12, 2004 Originally posted by slum@Oct 14 2004, 12:24 PM I don't want to be sexist or anything but is it really necessary to wear women's jeans? go to a tailor... I feel weird Quoted post well alot of retailers are trying to sell their jeans as unisex such as Diesel... i know where i work they tell us to tell the customer to visit the other sex's section if the jean style their looking for is more of that style Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUNBUNBIGGY 10 Posted November 13, 2004 so name some quality jeans then Mr. Seeking. I just got some EVISU EU-ED's. quality like that i mean. Handmade in Italy. Organic dyes. 750$. Dont be mad cause i keep my chips stacked. Get ya game up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k2theLO 0 Posted November 14, 2004 for $750 i rather get a pair of 'quality' jeans that everyone isn't jocking or i rather get 10 pairs of jeans that cost $75 and still look flier than the person wearing $750 jeans =x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted November 14, 2004 Just wanted to say that the best Diesel model ever is out of production and my last pair is ready to die in a week or so...rip rivec Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imported_dowmagik 1 Posted November 14, 2004 tesser, what sort of things should one look for when hunting for good denim? soft, hard, thin, thick, certain types of dyes...etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted November 14, 2004 I think Raven is the man to answer that, personally i'm a bit conservative with clothing in general and my idea of looking sharp is more based on classic values. I dont really like thin denim and absolutely hate pre-worn out jeans, the rivec was simply awesome cause while looking totally classic it had a much more nice fit than any classic jean, lower waist, a bit baggy but still fit and great details. Most importantly the fact that its tough enough so time and everyday use work wonders on it..i hate the fuckin diesel guys for removing that one and keeping all the trendy-ridiculously worn out ones. Having said all that, that site raven posted trully has some tasty denim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imported_dowmagik 1 Posted November 15, 2004 Originally posted by Tesseract@Nov 14 2004, 04:00 PM I think Raven is the man to answer that Quoted post oops, i meant raven. musta been spacing out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gangsta_Lean 0 Posted November 15, 2004 Originally posted by Tesseract@Nov 14 2004, 03:38 PM Just wanted to say that the best Diesel model ever is out of production and my last pair is ready to die in a week or so...rip rivec Quoted post exactly how i felt. bought 3 pair not too long ago Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nekro 1 Posted November 16, 2004 Fuck $750 for a pair of jeans, I'd spend that on a nicely tailored suit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUNBUNBIGGY 10 Posted November 16, 2004 MY JEANS ARE KNIFE PROOF.. WHATS SO GOOD ABOUT A MILLION DOLLAR SUIT IF IT WONT SAVE YOU FROM A NUCLEAR BOMB? 750$ KNIFE PROOF JEANS.. . COP THAT I GOT CHASED AROUND LES.. .IM STILL WALKING HAHA. CAN'T SAY MUCH FOR THE OTHER GUY. D90- THE ROOTS - DONT SAY NUFFIN... LISTEN TO THAT ISHH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUNBUNBIGGY 10 Posted November 16, 2004 If you really want something, get evisu.. . trust me.. . but not all are knif.. . errr. ripstop*. The denim for evisu is made with love and patience. If you dont like the logo, get the painted ones. They come off with the wash.... i hate when people rock evisu's and dont want to wash the denimn because it'll fade liek crazy.. well duhh.. it'll fade because evisu uses rare indigo flowers to dye their jeans. later club 40 40 is calling.. d90 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
