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Price points on high-end denim?!

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dow,

after haggling with all this expensive jean bullshit, going out, trying on a bunch of different brands: seven, evisu, paper denim, etc, all between $140-$200, i finally settled on a $44 pair of levis 527's and couldn't be happier.

i still wouldnt mind a pair of paper denim's, but that's just sort of vanity talking, and me thinking i'll be able to pull girls for rocking some underground shit.

 

unless you're on some homo status shit, check out levi's, gap or express, then spend the remaining $100 on fried chicken, malt liquor and a stolen gun. thats the real shit.

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Originally posted by seeking@Nov 17 2004, 10:45 AM

 

unless you're on some homo status shit, check out levi's, gap or express, then spend the remaining $100 on fried chicken, malt liquor and a stolen gun. thats the real shit.

 

amen. nobody cares what jeans you're wearing. nobody cares that you have $400 pants. people see jeans, khakis, whatever the fuck and walk right by.

 

i buy gap jeans on sale for 20 dollars and wear THEM for years. i'd say thats more "worth it" in the end, if you ask me.

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im sure there are people who do care, but seriously what the hell do i care what another dude thinks about my clothes? you wanna suck my dick? then dont worry about what i wear.

 

if people want to spend their money on the stuff, thats all them, doesnt bother me at all, but quit trying to front like theres anything more than a false asthetic difference.

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Good jeans are the shit, but the best feeling pants I have ever worn are from Club Monaco, everyone go try on a pair of their cut 2 or 3 pants, you will love them. That being said I have some small brand french jeans that cost 260, and I almost never wear them because I love my Club Monaco too much.

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Maybe i missed something..but when it comes to fasion and clothes you almost never pay for quality, and with quality i mean durability..You always pay for style/brand etc. If you want a pair of everlasting jeans just go to the nearest supermarket and buy a pair of unwashed straightcut blue jeans for 20 dollars...

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and while you're there, take all the free 'apartment finder' magazines, and all the copies of 'cat fancy' and use them in place of toilet paper.

even more savings!

 

after saying all that, i'm back on my stupid expensive jean kick. ha. i think it's mostly because i realized my levis dont fit like i'd like them too. if i was 5'10" and 165, everything would fit me awesome...but i'm not. oh well.

 

it's funny how little i knew about jeans when this all started, and how ridiculously much i know now. i can break down company lineages, styles by brand (both guys and girls) and give the different selling points of each.

i need a new hobby.

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i need a new hobby.

 

 

Yes!

 

Oh and i wasnt talking about saving cash..I wouldnt wear nobrand jeans they dont look good on me, they look like shit...I only questioned the yougetwhatyoupay for thing...Because its bollocks when it comes to clothes, you pay for style, brand but but not quality..

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I donno, i dont like GAP jeans. I once wore them to skate and i ripped them to shreds. I do like the fact that they are thin and feel good to wear in the summer.

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just got some vintage selvege indigo's from comme de garcons. not as nice as 45rpm, but better than most other japanese selvege i've seen around.

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Originally posted by DESTROY90@Nov 16 2004, 02:18 PM

it'll fade because evisu uses rare indigo flowers to dye their jeans.

Oh shit, someone bought the marketing hook, line, and sinker. Indigo isn't a "rare flower." It's the oldest dye known to man, and pretty much every pair of jeans were dyed with it before the 80s.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_dye

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Historically speaking the reason indigo was wanted so much is the same reason it became the color of royalty, it was expensive to get. Depending on how you make it now it can be a little more expensive to get, but not a $300 difference. The reason you pay so much for evisu is because it is evisu. That said I'm considering a new pair of evisu jeans or a blazer, probably getting the blazer though.

 

Has anyone read "Napoleon's Buttons"? It's a really good read.

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Tribal_man wrote: Historically speaking the reason indigo was wanted so much is the same reason it became the color of royalty, it was expensive to get. Depending on how you make it now it can be a little more expensive to get, but not a $300 difference. The reason you pay so much for evisu is because it is evisu. That said I'm considering a new pair of evisu jeans or a blazer, probably getting the blazer though.

 

Tribal_man is correct. Evisu are great jeans, great denim with a great logo and 'brand story' and you pay for that.

 

"Cool" costs.

 

Great topic BTW.

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hey ringring, good to see you here. i thoroughly enjoyed reading up on the knowledge you've been dropping on superfuture.

 

welcome aboard.

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Originally posted by Misteraven@Dec 1 2004, 02:56 PM

hey ringring, good to see you here. i thoroughly enjoyed reading up on the knowledge you've been dropping on superfuture.

 

welcome aboard.

 

 

Hey Raven, nice to be hear and thanks for the welcome. I've always enjoyed your posts on Superfuture, which is pretty much the reason I came by here. (I don't post on many forums). Good to see some denim aficionados.

 

I'll be back in NYC in spring and will no doubt be doing 'the denim shops' LOL.

 

Great board you have here.

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thanks for the kind words and participation.

 

hit me up before you get to ny and maybe we can meet up, talk shop, and dig for denim.

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Originally posted by Misteraven@Dec 1 2004, 03:14 PM

thanks for the kind words and participation.

 

hit me up before you get to ny and maybe we can meet up, talk shop, and dig for denim.

 

Digging for denim sounds like my kinda trip :)

 

Thanks for the offer.

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Originally posted by jo king@Dec 8 2004, 06:16 AM

so what do u lot call a "high end denim" pair of jeans...brand wise then???

 

45rpm, comme de garcons, and many more...

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Originally posted by Misteraven+Dec 9 2004, 02:08 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Misteraven - Dec 9 2004, 02:08 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-jo king@Dec 8 2004, 06:16 AM

so what do u lot call a "high end denim" pair of jeans...brand wise then???

 

45rpm, comme de garcons, and many more...

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CAN U GET 45 RPM'S IN THE UK THEN???

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Dunno about the 45rpm's in London, but Selfridges has plenty of other "premium denim" brands. Anything £150 thereabouts or upwards should be in that catagory.

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Originally posted by jo king+Dec 9 2004, 04:36 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jo king - Dec 9 2004, 04:36 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Misteraven@Dec 9 2004, 02:08 AM

<!--QuoteBegin-jo king@Dec 8 2004, 06:16 AM

so what do u lot call a "high end denim" pair of jeans...brand wise then???

 

45rpm, comme de garcons, and many more...

 

 

CAN U GET 45 RPM'S IN THE UK THEN???

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no idea, but they happen to have a shop in soho, nyc in case you have a friend in ny that can help you out. just so you know... 45rpm is particularly expensive. they start at about $400 and most hover in the $800 range. you can also get custom hardware and special long term washes, but that will drive the price up into the $1000 - $1800 range.

 

not for the faint of heart, or shallow pockets.

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$1800, huh?

i remember when i made fun of tesseract a couple years ago because you could trade a pair of levis for a car in his country (which turns out to not be the case at all). guess the jokes on me!

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