whoiseuth Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 and of course i meant 5mm shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoiseuth Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 ps - maybe i have just been more exposed to skateboarding but watching riding videos and rollerblading videos blows my mind. some serious threat of bodily harm in both of em these days. i mean skateboarding will always look so right but rollerbladers and bike riders are pushing it sooo hard right now. riding brakeless, 180 nose manual half cab out on a funbox! skating mach 10 to rails with thirty foot drop offs and making it at least a dozen stairs in before even hitting the rail! this isnt an "xtreme sports" thread but thought i would share. peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Placement Only Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 ps - maybe i have just been more exposed to skateboarding but watching riding videos and rollerblading videos blows my mind. some serious threat of bodily harm in both of em these days. i mean skateboarding will always look so right but rollerbladers and bike riders are pushing it sooo hard right now. riding brakeless, 180 nose manual half cab out on a funbox! skating mach 10 to rails with thirty foot drop offs and making it at least a dozen stairs in before even hitting the rail! this isnt an "xtreme sports" thread but thought i would share. peace. yes the tricks that rollerbladers are doing are a lot crazier as well, than like 7 years ago when it was all slow and drawn out...but it still looks pretty weak when you see a kid flying in the air, but his skates are attached to his feet... bmx is pretty crazy these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the man the myth the GOON Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 thats a hot gif for sho. i'd like to have seen how much speed he had hitting that. i hate cold weather. ugh. tired of riding with 3+ layers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaise Pascal Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 flatland has never stopped progressing and pretty much the rest of the 2 wheeled world copies shit off of BMX.... track,mtn, mtx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovedrunk Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 soup i JUST read something the other day on the chris king website.. its long and all about integrated headsets. http://chrisking.com/headsets/hds_index.html http://chrisking.com/pdfs/Int%20Headsets%20Explained.pdf read it its interesting (another bmx video) i picked up one of the hubs this kid is riding a few months back.. they have been used in flatland forever but have made their way to street in the last few years.. freecoaster.... http://fitbikeco.com/media/joevee.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupBDC Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Tight. So now the only way Im ever buying bianchi is if I can convert it to a standardized headset. No shops around here carry track bikes in the store. I have to guess what size I want and order it. I'm riding a 56 trek 1000 which fits fine. I'm 5' 8" which somehow everyone says the 56 is too big but it's not. Anyone know how the hell Im gonna get the right track frame? I want to have this thing built before Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Placement Only Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 believe it or not, i prefer stand over height. i think i have short legs, and long torso type effect. but i ride where my standover height is comfortable, i take care of the torso fitment by pushing the saddle back, drop bars with a longer track stem. but i dont really know a "true fitting". i dont ride track so id rather have a slightly odd fitting bike to save my nuts. id suggest going to a shop and getting fitted by their recommendations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupBDC Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Anyone have one or know someone who has a Nessuno Bareknuckle? Ive seen one photo of it an i'm sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoiseuth Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 soup the reason you may be riding a 56 comfortably at only 5'8" is because your trek is probably only virtually 56 mm. a compact frame, which your trek may or may not be i am not sure, is measured two ways with a virtual seat tube height and an actual seat tube height. with compact frames they take an estimate of what the seat tube height would be given that the top tube were horizontal rather than sloping. if you get a track bike it is going to be classic geometry most likely, unless you get a langster or brassknuckle which are compact frames. i would recommend, given only your height, that you look at 53mm frames. i am 5'10" and my 55mm bianchi pista is almost too big. by the way bareknuckles are very nice. holler! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoiseuth Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 here is a grip of entry level track bikes/frames... EAI brassknuckle $300 frameset EAI bareknuckle $570 frameset pake track $320 frameset mercier track $350 frameset (usually has decals) KHS track complete ~$500 bianchi pista complete ~$500 these are all pretty popular amongst the fixed gear crowd, so you wont be uber-hip on your NJS approved 3Rensho, but you will be able to find and afford them pretty easily. peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Intergrated headsets - I don't know... I've ridden them all year for the last four years and have never had any issues. I prefer them but only because of aesthetics in looks. I'm a geek that way sometimes... okay, most of the time. Fine, all the time. There's also the Bianchi Roger... I think it's called... I posted it before. A single speed horizontal dropout bike with disc brakes. Pricey at $1400 but looks to be well worth the money. I'm 5'8" as well and ride a 54 frame on the road. On the track I ride a 53 or a 52 depending on frame maker. It's always better to go smaller than larger because you can compensate with laid back seatpost and or long stem if need be. A bike that is too large is just no good. Been riding in the rain like everyday it seems. And now I'm sick as a dog. Sucks. Puts a major lull in my training. Now all I can do is hope I come back rested and strong. Racing starts in two months!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Hell Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Dude, I miss you. No homo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Placement Only Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 those mercier bikes [complete] you can find on ebay for 350 shipped new. its the same frames as the khs flite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic commando.. Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 flatland has never stopped progressing and pretty much the rest of the 2 wheeled world copies shit off of BMX.... track,mtn, mtx Check this video of flatland stuff... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9To06OtKNI&mode=related&search= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupBDC Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Im not tryna build a commuter fixie. If I was id buy a Mark V for $600 and be done. Im trying to build a street-wise semi pro track bike. Something I can race with but throw it around and not worry about something cracking. Im still pissed about the Treks dropout breaking on me. Heres the frame roundup: Pros: Owner of the Trek lbs said hed knock $100 off the site listing. Cons: Integrated headset Pros: $100 off Cons: Brakeline brazeons enh looks Pro: Versatile, not too flashy, comes in great colors Con: Same price as a pista concept Pro: Oversized aluminum tubing = rugged looking Con: Integrated headset = no wiggle room with tweaking headsets Pro: The best Con: $850 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupBDC Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Specialized Langster Pros:... Cons: Brazeons Pros: $800 complete Cons: .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HESHIANDET Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 gross to everything. buy a real bike w/ gears.......... over priced poser trash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupBDC Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I hear ya but Im not building a messenger bike. Its a winter cruise missle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Placement Only Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 SOUP. heres another option. classic geo and styling. lugged, and threaded headset. http://www.zarinternational.com/debernardithrontrack.html http://trackstarnyc.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=73 $510 the aluminum counter part... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupBDC Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Gotta love the oversized tubing. Another option I forgot to mention, and i may very well end up with: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XootrPooter Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 A blue Trek hybrid RST. Nice and smooth, not a bad price either 320 something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupBDC Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 soup the reason you may be riding a 56 comfortably at only 5'8" is because your trek is probably only virtually 56 mm. a compact frame, which your trek may or may not be i am not sure, is measured two ways with a virtual seat tube height and an actual seat tube height. with compact frames they take an estimate of what the seat tube height would be given that the top tube were horizontal rather than sloping. if you get a track bike it is going to be classic geometry most likely, unless you get a langster or brassknuckle which are compact frames. i would recommend, given only your height, that you look at 53mm frames. i am 5'10" and my 55mm bianchi pista is almost too big. by the way bareknuckles are very nice. holler! SO heres the trek which fits great with seatpost and stem in those positions. Top and seat tubes are both 56 cm and standovers 77 cm. Now I gotta figure out how that translates into track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupBDC Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 More possibilities http://www.javbike.com/beta2/CycloTrack/track.php - $780 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupBDC Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I just started reading back and hahaha that exact pic was posted on page 94. I really gotta post less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap two Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 anyone know what kind of tubing the pake and mercier above are? i was looking to replace the road frame on my fixie with a track frame, something in that price range. but i dunno. maybe im picky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Placement Only Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 anyone know what kind of tubing the pake and mercier above are? i was looking to replace the road frame on my fixie with a track frame, something in that price range. but i dunno. maybe im picky. http://www.pakebikes.com/ Full 4130 CrMo tubeset http://www.cyclesmercier.com/specialty.html Custom Butted Chromoly Steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Placement Only Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 id pick a pake over a mercier though. or get a used pista frameset. those are always going up for sale. got mine for 150 with cranks, chain ring, stem, and risers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupBDC Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 The pakes chromoly 4130 straight gauge tubing, frame and fork weighing in over seven pounds (57cm). The Mercier Kilo TT is Reynolds 520 double butted chromoly tubing and should be slightly lighter. Both frames are fairly indestructable since their meant to withstand cityscapes and sizable car-shaped projectiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupBDC Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Oh my bad Placement... didnt pay attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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