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LA Cops kill man and baby girl.

Discussion in 'News' started by Mr. Chad, Jul 11, 2005.

  1. Mr. Chad

    Mr. Chad Member

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    Updated: 10:06 AM EDT
    Police Officers Kill Man, Baby Girl in Standoff
    Man Opened Fire on Police While Holding Baby

    LOS ANGELES (July 11) - Police officers shot and killed a man Sunday night when he emerged from his home carrying a young girl following an hours-long standoff and opened fire, wounding one officer, authorities said. The girl was also killed in the gunfire.

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    The man killed was identified as Jose Raul Lemos, and the girl, about 17 months old, was related to him, police said. The officer, who was not immediately identified, was shot in the shoulder and was expected to survive.

    There were three exchanges of gunfire between police and Lemos, who was either age 34 or 35, Assistant Police Chief Jim McDonnell told reporters. In the final exchange, at around 6:20 p.m., Lemos held the girl as he shot.

    ''We did everything we could to hold our fire,'' McDonnell said. ''We showed a tremendous amount of restraint, but unfortunately the suspect's actions dictated this. ... It's a true tragedy.''

    Baby Dies in Standoff

    The standoff began at around 3:50 p.m. when officers responded to an area in South Los Angeles west of Watts after residents reported a man behaving erratically and aggressively. Lemos fired at the officers and ran inside a fenced area that included his apartment and his car wash and detailing business. He had a 9 mm handgun and a shotgun and was intoxicated on drugs and alcohol, police said.

    Police called in a SWAT team and tried to speak with the man; when they at one point attempted to help a neighbor escape the area, he fired at them and they fired back, McDonnell said.

    Officers were struggling with the thought that they killed an infant, he said.

    ''The officers are taking it very hard,'' McDonnell said. ''Anytime you have a baby killed, it takes its toll.''


    these assholes better be taking it real hard
  2. imported_dowmagik

    imported_dowmagik Senior Member

    Joined: Apr 19, 2001 Messages: 1,904 Likes Received: 1
    assholes? if someone was bucking at me i dont give a fuck if theyre holding the dali llama, id do the same thing. yes its sad, but what else were they to do?
  3. 2 blaazed

    2 blaazed New Jack

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    its deff. a tragedy, but i have no resenment towards the cops, they had to do whathey had to do, its not there fault her pops didnt care for her life or his own. what did he exspect? he can shoot atr the police while he hold his baby and they wont shoot bacK?
  4. mullet

    mullet Banned

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    I didnt even read all this.

    But taking the life of a baby is plain horrible. I dont wish death upon anyone, especially kids who have never got to explore the advantages of living.

    Fuck that.
  5. Juan Fuentes

    Juan Fuentes Banned

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  6. dumy

    dumy Veteran Member

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    damn, that's horrible news..the article reads like the cops involved wish they could have prevented it from happening...

    edit: for sarcasm
  7. Fondles

    Fondles Veteran Member

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    uhhhh..not shoot?? sniper? projectile bean bags?

    fuck that, whoever baby momma is, she straight for life.

    rip baby
  8. dumy

    dumy Veteran Member

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    good point. I wish I knew more of the details...

    SPORTO Senior Member

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    could have blown his legs apart first?
  10. CACashRefund

    CACashRefund 12oz Loyalist

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    He had a baby in front of him, snipers are well trained but theyre not supermen. And theres two reasons projectile bean bags wouldnt have worked or any "non-lethal" alternative, had the man gone down, he might have dropped the baby, which could have done some serious if not lethal damage to the child. And sometimes after being hit with these he still could have fired back, its been known to happen.
  11. fatalist

    fatalist Dirty Dozen Crew

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    still fuck the police.........
    and may this haunt them in their dreams FOREVER!!!!
  12. Fondles

    Fondles Veteran Member

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    oh well shit, we don't want him to drop the baby, anything other than minor to serious injury is acceptable. let's just shoot her up instead.

    and he was already firing, so him firing after being shot with the bean bags is a moot point.

    and snipers don't need to be supermen???? they don't get in faces, they shoot from afar. From what i recall...that's what they are trained specifically to do, eliminate bad guys by targeting key areas with minimal damage to the surrounding area i.e. the baby in his arms. I doubt he had the baby draped over his head to prevent head shots. And i heard nothing about protective head gear. Fuck that. and fuck cops. specifically LA cops.
  13. Mr. Chad

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    they said the guy walked out the door with the baby in his hands??? How does that give them the go ahead to shoot. It didnt say he was doing any provokative movements when he walked out.
  14. GamblersGrin

    GamblersGrin Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 24, 2003 Messages: 3,243 Likes Received: 16
    oh wah wah someone got shot by a cop because he shot at a cop. wah wah i dont want to live in this cowboys and indians world anymore.

    dear maker of this thread,
    if you would be willing to stand at a distance of 100 yards away on a 2 foot tree stump for a period of 10 minutes while i, at the opposite side of our "100 yards and 10 minutes of 10 guns super fun time" begins that may i fire 10 various weapons at you standing on aforementioned tree stump for a periodic rational time stamp of 1 minute per gun (one). i so much reading your personal philosophy on how someone should not shoot back when they are being shot at that i will even buy you dinner at the cheesecake factory.
    you are a true american patriot. we should all stand and booty clap for you.

    truly and madly,
    gamblers grin
  15. Mr. Chad

    Mr. Chad Member

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    the guy shot at a cop way before he got killed. When he "walked" out the house they unloaded. It didnt say he made any attmept to shoot again.