Inappropriate_Responder Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Let freedom ring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickos Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 pew pew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NightmareOnElmStreet Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 boston niggas had a ruff week yo. did not skim all the way through. thread de-railed? highlights? crazy oontz conspiracy theorists?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redeyedanimal Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I don't want to hear about the bombers, they are pieces of shit and deserve to die. I don't want to hear about how the 'Murican gubment planned this for their own benefit somehow. I want to hear about the people who risked their own lives to save total strangers. I want to hear about the people who are worth something, and act like decent people, y'know, the MAJORITY of the people involved. Media bias in this country is fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdoughnut69 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 That Guardian article raises a lot of valid points. The motive is not known yet, and the word terrorism gets thrown around alot in America these days, but only if the perpetrators are of Muslim origin. Chris Dorner went around killing innocent people and cops and nobody called him a terrorist, as did countless other gun toting weirdos. then there is uproar when they try and tighten gun law. america is laughable. 5 people shot dead in seattle yesterday, wonder who'll shoot the shit out of what next week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realism Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Let's focus on Chechnya like it never existed before, and extremists from there are unheard of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redeyedanimal Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 It seems that everyone is more upset with the media coverage and hype than anything else. I have laughed at "The War on Terror" since that phrase was coined. We all know how well teh war on drugs has gone... Criminals = "Bitch I'll do what I want. If I wanna fingerpaint, I'm gonna fingerprint." Making things illegal only limits the freedom of the innocent. Criminals are free to do as they please, business as usual for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPS Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 So terrorism should be legalized? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realism Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Yes, and gun control should remain lax and ineffective, because they'll get them anyway. DERAIL TIME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inappropriate_Responder Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 boston niggas thread de-railed? crazy oontz conspiracy theorists?? Yes, and DERAIL TIME http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/are-you-just-a-believer-or-do-you-think/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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redeyedanimal Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 hahaha, again, this conversation will go nowhere (online) except to miscommunication and misunderstanding. All i'm saying is a war against an idea/mentality cannot be won, and is only a scare tactic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Let's focus on Chechnya like it never existed before, and extremists from there are unheard of. I have Muslim friends from the Caucasus/Balkan region, and because of some of the stories they've told me I've educated myself a bit about what goes on over there...based on what I know (not much) it's made me wonder why these kids did this. Not in a conspiracy theory sense so much as it doesn't really square with what I've heard or read. I wonder whether this kid will live long enough to tell his side of the story, or if it will ever come out. Either way, it's a tragedy and I feel for anyone affected by this, directly or otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I really think he will live long enough. Now whether what gets reported is true or not will be up for debate. They have reported he is at least able to move his head . If he does die now, I would tend to believe it was from previous injuries as opposed to an air bubble in the vein heart attack. "They" that the conspiracy theorists fear know the theorists exist and the ignorant will glom on to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walid Jumblat Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 lol, I know this isn't what you're saying but it seems to fit well: Scare tactics: a more simple way of saying 'terrorism". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Here's something to consider... With regards to terrorism, which has the greater lasting effect- the act or the response? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareOnElmStreet Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 i sure as shit hope this dude doesn't die. i don't believe all the hoax nonsense at all. because it's ridiculous to claim people were acting out those deaths and injuries. and i know people personally who had family severely injured there. but. i wouldn't be surprised at all to find out(not that we ever actually will) that our own government had a good hand in the whole thing and did in fact perhaps somehow have dude involved... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ink face Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 The problem to me isn't so much whether our govt had something to do with it or not, but more so that there is a big enough group of people that believe that our government would have something to do with a bombing of it's own people. Not to say that i don't think the government is capable of doing so, I'm just thinking, how could a country that believes it's leaders can and do bomb it's own citizens, survive? When there's that kind of distrust in leadership, it's only a matter of time before the whole thing implodes. -$0.02 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiveohno Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods read up, the government is no stranger to planning attacks on its own people, and you're right, it is only a matter of time before it implodes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 That's a good point, and I don't really know...blaming it on the internet and the media is kind of a pat answer. Recently I read a article somewhere about how Gerald Ford's presidency was one of the worst things to ever happen to the US. When he pardoned Nixon he more or less wrote a blank check for every subsequent president to get away with as much dirt as they could because they knew they could get away with it. I think that, on the heels of Vietnam and what happened in the US during the sixties, shook a lot of people's faith in the government/establishment...it started to came back during the Reagan administration then Contragate came along and more or less ruined any credibility he had. Bush 1 was the ex-head of the CIA and started an oil war. Clinton was....Clinton. Same with Bush 2, and now we have Obama who is more or less fucked because of partisanship. So yeah, we're definitely on a bad path, but we're on it because the majority dictated that we want to be on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Here's something to consider... With regards to terrorism, which has the greater lasting effect- the act or the response? (Jack Nicholson voice) What's the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 how could a country that believes it's leaders can and do bomb it's own citizens, survive? The country as a whole doesn't genuinely believe that. A fringe group of people that is well in the minority believe the government is behind every unexpected tragedy that happens in the US. Things that aren't even tragedies they think are a hoax, like the moon landing. Don't get me wrong though, doubt is a very useful and important tool to use in the pursuit of truth and knowledge, but when the evidence and logic is so overwhelmingly going the other direction it's hard not to feel bad for these "truthers". In this respect they are a lot like creationists that believe the earth is 6,000 years old and that dinosaurs walked with man, when clearly the evidence does not support this. Congratulations folks! This is what Post-Modernism has brought you; individualized truth -- it's true because I feel it to be true. Not because it's legitimately and objectively been proven to be true. "I just feel that this is what happened, so therefore, it did." Truth now comes from sincerity. (maybe this will be the post that knocks me over the 100k nerd points threshold :) ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walid Jumblat Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 aaaaaaaaaaaaagreed ^^^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods[/url] read up, the government is no stranger to planning attacks on its own people, and you're right, it is only a matter of time before it implodes... But these plans were never realised. Not only that but they were created during a time if intense paranoia, nationalism and when govt organisations had less regulation and oversight on them. The global jihadist era can't even hold a fucking candle to the peak of the Cold War days in terms of fear, scheming and intelligence operations. We live in a MUCH more timid environment these days, people get swept up in it all though because of the internet, the 24 hour media cycle and a severe lack of historical knowledge and perspective. - $0.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 However, the technology to be able to track people has gone way, way up. Credit cards, cell phones, CCTV, IP addresses, OnStar etc. Someone living in the 60's compared to today's standards would be "off the grid" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 (Jack Nicholson voice) What's the difference? It's pretty simple. Let's say there's a bombing...people die, get buried, friends and family mourn, life goes on. Except now you can't take bottled water or toenail clippers on an airplane and there's metal detectors popping up everywhere...and large groups of cops look more and more like an occupying army than the boys in blue you're accustomed to. Changes like that are conducive to maintaining a certain level of fear to obtain and keep control...I'm pretty sure the government views every large-scale attack as a cloud with a silver lining in this respect. I'm not a conspiracy theorist by any means....maybe I've just read too much, but in the past decade I've seen patterns play themselves out that I don't entirely feel comfortable with. Most people choose not to see them and call me paranoid...that's fine, I don't return the favor by calling them sheeple, but if you know what to look for it's hard to miss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YearzOne Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfullofretards Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 It's pretty simple. Let's say there's a bombing...people die, get buried, friends and family mourn, life goes on. Except now you can't take bottled water or toenail clippers on an airplane and there's metal detectors popping up everywhere...and large groups of cops look more and more like an occupying army than the boys in blue you're accustomed to. Changes like that are conducive to maintaining a certain level of fear to obtain and keep control...I'm pretty sure the government views every large-scale attack as a cloud with a silver lining in this respect. I'm not a conspiracy theorist by any means....maybe I've just read too much, but in the past decade I've seen patterns play themselves out that I don't entirely feel comfortable with. Most people choose not to see them and call me paranoid...that's fine, I don't return the favor by calling them sheeple, but if you know what to look for it's hard to miss. Right, you see an ever increasing direction towards what some would call a police state. I liked what you said about maintaining a certain level of fear. Well said. The government and the media have such a good synchronization. Say what you want about Vice, this article hits on points a lot of people (I hope) felt as they saw things unfold... http://www.vice.com/read/the-cops-military-toys-arent-just-for-catching-terrorists?utm_source=vicefbus Although on second thought, there is this deep seeded paranoia that pervades a lot of thoughts in America. You know, that the government is inherently bound for evil, etc... For example, this is the reason why Jason Bourne's target is directed in, towards the government as opposed to James Bond who always fights villains away or outside of the home country. My point is, if you become aware of this paranoia and how it takes shape, it makes things some things sound not so bad, like, so far the increasing policing of America has been done for benevolent purposes. But most likely, this paranoia is justified and can be witnessed as needed from history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPORTO Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 WHERE ARE PICTURES OF THE SECOND BOSTON BOMB SCENE ITS LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprotester Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 http://www.news.com.au/world-news/body-in-river-identified-as-brown-university-student-sunil-tripathi-falsely-linked-to-boston-bombings-on-reddit/story-fndir2ev-1226629675133 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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