mackfatsoe Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Jihadidamean? Osama bin Ladidamean? Talibandanas? Yasser Arafitted hats? I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 Fuck, WhiteOx. That's horrible. Do you have a link? What's a good, reputable source for Australia news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackfatsoe Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 wow, these australians look like such american white trash, it's confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Originally posted by Poop Man Bob@Dec 12 2005, 04:16 PM I like how the captions say "appeared to be of Middle Eastern descent" and "appeared to be Arab" because, let's be serious, they were probably just going after anyone who happened to be brown. And, yeah, I noticed the caped marauder, too. He does his country proud. Quoted post This is why I'm trying to shave on the regular. lol But for real, this is stupid. And here I thought that Australia was a lot like Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbivore Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Seriously, fuck people. I can't stand ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_dowmagik Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 shit is sad, for real. that would be so fucking scary. i had to stop a guy i know from beating a guy in our mall cause the dude was wearing a turban. people are no good anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOx Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Poopmanbob. http://www.smh.com.au is decent Paul Sheean is an extremely good journalist. He has it so much more right than any other writer or newspaper that its inspiring Nasty reality surfs in as ugly tribes collide * * Email * Print * Normal font * Large font December 12, 2005 Page 1 of 2 The Cronulla brawls are more proof of a vicious underbelly in our culture, writes Paul Sheehan. Illustration: Michael Mucci AdvertisementAdvertisement The battle on Cronulla Beach yesterday requires more than a little context. What happened has been brewing for a long time, well beyond Cronulla, and well beyond the beach culture. The first clear hint of the undertow pushing this along came three years ago at the Coogee RSL, in 2002. Upstairs, the police from Waverley station were having their Christmas party. Downstairs, there was a 21st birthday party dominated by a beach gang known as the Bra Boys (from MarouBRA). The Bra Boys are basically Aussie surfer white boys, but with Pacific Islanders and others in the mix. A brawl broke out, one of the ugliest and most unacceptable recorded in Sydney in many years involving police. The police were the victims. Those who left the Christmas party were confronted and mocked by a mob at the Bra Boys party. Other police went to their aid. It became what witnesses described as a "sea" of fighting men, with more than 120 involved. One police officer had his eye gouged and his sight permanently damaged. Thirty police reported injuries. Two had broken jaws. Several had their heads rammed into tables. One of the worst incidents, and one of the few to lead to a conviction, involved a first-grade rugby league player, Reni Maitua, who at the time was with the Canterbury Bulldogs. He was one of several men at the Bra Boys party who dragged Constable Tim Allen from a lift and attacked him. Allen told them he was a police officer. Maitua responded by laughing and kicking him in the face while he was on the ground, breaking Allen's nose. Maitua was later arrested and fined $2000. He served no time for the incident. The NSW Police Association described this decision by the magistrate, Janet Wahlquist, as a disgrace. Perhaps the most remarkable aspect of this ugly story is that it received only modest publicity. Yet it was far, far worse than what took place at Cronulla yesterday. Context is everything. Cronulla will receive saturation coverage, which will balloon the events of yesterday into something more than they were - the actions of a minority of idiots. Just remember, this started small, then the media got involved. Thousands of people gathering on a beach singing Waltzing Matilda doesn't materialise without a lot of media oxygen. But blame-the-media won't do. This was and is a legitimate story that had to be covered. Out there in Sydney, there is a huge cumulative weight of resentment and contempt at the constant provocations by Lebanese gangs - I'm not even going to bother with the simpering euphemism about "men of Middle Eastern appearance" when everybody knows what it means. It was evident on the beach at Cronulla yesterday. s it happens, on Saturday, the leader of the Bra Boys bought into the Cronulla debate. Surf star Koby Abberton, who is facing a prison sentence for hindering a police investigation of a murder involving two other Bra Boys, called The Daily Telegraph to offer a view on why his home beach, Maroubra, was one of the few in Sydney not to have been trawled by Lebanese-Australian goons. "The reason why it's not happening at Maroubra is because of the Bra Boys," Abberton told the Telegraph. "Girls go to Cronulla, Bondi, everywhere else in Sydney and get harassed, but they come to Maroubra and nothing happens to them ... [because] if these fellas come out to Maroubra and start something they know it's going to be on, so they stay away." What has happened on consecutive weekends has been displays of two unpalatable subcultures, the yobbo beach tribes, and the Lebanese gangsta tribes. The reactions to the Cronulla brawl will be predictable. The disgusting behaviour of the Aussie yobs, behaving even worse than the original provocateurs last week, will prompt a great deal of ululating about Australian's undertow of racism. This will be countered by a demand for recognition that violent crime in Sydney is disproportionately dominated by Lebanese, Aborigines and Pacific Islanders and Australians have had a gutful of the pandering to these groups. Both sides will be right. You only have to look at the events at Coogee RSL club in 2002 to know that Australian beach culture has its ugly underbelly. And it would be folly to airbrush away the reality that what started the Cronulla tensions was yet another provocation by the aggressive, repugnant Lebanese gangsta culture - itself an alien subculture within the Lebanese community - which has given Sydney dozens of shootings and murders, a spate of gang rapes, hundreds of sexual assaults, and thousands of deliberate racist provocations at Darling Harbour, the eastern and southern beaches and some of the big clubs in western Sydney, along with Canterbury Bulldogs rugby league matches. At its worst, this culture had overtones of civil war, as the Kanaan gang sprayed the Lakemba police station with gunfire. One of those who took part in this attack was Saleh Jamal, now in jail in Lebanon on weapons charges. He has turned to Islamic fundamentalism and wanted to explode a terrorist bomb in Sydney before he fled the country. The cops hate and fear the swarming packs of Lebanese who respond when some of their numbers are confronted, mobilising quickly via mobile phones and showing open contempt for Australian law. All this is the real world, as distinct from the world preferred by ideological academics who talk about "moral panic" and the oppression of Muslims. They will see only Australian racism as the problem. Others will see only "Lebs". Cronulla yesterday proved it is not possible to airbrush the yob culture out of the picture, but the problem is not the figment of fertile imaginations. This has been too real for too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 lol the "Bra Boys" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 WhiteOx: 1) Great article. Thanks for providing some context. 2) What's a "yob?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_dowmagik Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 the haole hooligans would be better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dazzle Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Cronulla? Carringbah? Wollongong? Didgeridoo? Minogue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 why are you asking me for? i live in melbourne where people have a little more intelligence than sydney (i hope that statement doesn't come back and bite me in the ass. melbourne, don't be a bunch of fuck ups). from what i can gather it's the rednecks vs the morons, and i hope they all crush each other's heads in and leave the rest of us alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 ABC, I'm asking you because you're 12oz's most recognizable Australian. If I was on a site mainly congregated by Australians, I'm sure I'd get shit for something that happens in Florida or California. Not that I'm giving you shit for anything. But you can have some if you want, as I just took one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOx Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Originally posted by Poop Man Bob@Dec 12 2005, 10:28 PM WhiteOx: 1) Great article. Thanks for providing some context. 2) What's a "yob?" Quoted post short for yobbo. Ie bogan, ie redneck It is certainly true that it is confined to Sydney. I don't know why Melbourne doesn't have the Lebanese violence that provoked this over the years. An arab taxi driver in Melbourne claimed it was because the Melbourne Lebanese and Middle Easterns did not come from the war torn area unlike those who emigrated to Sydney. I don't see how this makes much sense but there must be some logical reason. Care to drop some words on something that doesn't involve you blacking out abc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I thought Yobs are strictly British. As far as I know, they're the drinking, fighting, hooligan type of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPORTO Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 http://www.convictcentral.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26SidedCube Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Ha ha ha ha ha, check out this bizarre rapper style used by me, the B.I.G. I put my key you put your key in, money we'll be seein Will reach the fuckin ceiling, check, check it My Calico been cocked (uh-huh) this rap Alfred Hitchcock drop top notch playa hating won't stop (uhh) This instant, rappers too persistant Quick to spit Biggie name on shit, make my name taste like ass when you speak it, see me in the street your jewelry you can keep it, that be our little secret See me, B that is, I that is, G whiz Motherfuckers still in my biz Don't they know my nigga Gutter fuckin kidnip kids? (uhh) Fuck em in the ass, throw em over the bridge (oooh) That's how it is, my shit is laid out (what) Fuck that beef shit, that shit is played out (played out) Y'all got to go, all I make is one phone call All y'all dissapear by tomorrow All your guns is borrowed, I don't feel sorrow Actually, your man passed the gat to me, now check this What's beef? Beef is when you need two gats to go to sleep Beef is when your moms ain't safe up in the streets Beef is when I see you Guaranteed to be an ICU, one more time What's beef? Beef is when you make your enemies start your Jeep Beef is when you roll no less than thirty deep Beef is when I see you Guaranteed to be an ICU, check it I done smoked with the best of em (uh-huh) shot at the rest of em (uh-huh) Was about a hundred or more, maybe less of em Got my rocks off, that nigga from the Brook just be whylin on you just be, stylin on you (you so crazy) When I, tried to warn you what your eyes fucked up Now I cleared them shits with hits you wanna fuckin bitch (mmm) Pardon my French but ahh, sometimes I get kinda peeved at these, weak MC's (don't stop) with the supreme baller like, lyrics I call em like I see em G Y'all niggaz sound like me (yeah) Y'all was grimy in the early nineties, far behind me It ain't hard to find me number one with the booyaka (booyaka) Gimme the Remi and the chronic ain't no tellin what I do to ya (I do to ya) It's obvious the game's new to ya (new to ya) Take them ends you make (ehehe) and spend em on a tutor hah, one shot, I'm through with ya What's beef? Beef is when you need two gats to go to sleep (don't sleep) Beef is when your moms ain't safe up in the streets (ain't safe) Beef is when I see you Guaranteed to be an ICU (I see you) one more time What's beef? (What's beef) Beef is when you make your enemies start your Jeep (Start my Jeep) Beef is when you roll no less than thirty deep (thirty deep) Beef is when I see you Guaranteed to be an ICU, check it (I see you) There'll be nothin but smooth sailin (sailin) When I spit shots, now your crew's bailin (bailin) All I got is heat and tough talk for you (uh-huh) Tie you up, cut your balls off just to use (oooh) Man listen straight torture, look what that slick shit bought ya A first class ticket to Lucife, real name Cristopher Watch me set it off like Vivica Here lies your demise, close your eyes (uh-huh) Think good thoughts, die while your skin start to glisten Pale blue hands get cold, your soul's risen It's bad cause I just begun, we'll make the real bad now we's havin fun (ahaha!) What's beef? (What's beef?) Beef is when you need two gats to go to sleep (Don't sleep) Beef is when your moms ain't safe up in the streets (ain't safe) Beef is when I see you Guaranteed to be an ICU, one more time (I see you) What's beef? (What's beef?) Beef is when you make your enemies start your Jeep (Start my Jeep) Beef is when you roll no less than thirty deep (thirty deep) Beef is when I see you (I see you) Guaranteed to be an ICU, and I'm through (Yeah, and I'm through) Uhhh, uhhh It's like that (Now ask yourself, do you really, know what beef is?) Like that (Then ask yourself) Uhh (Do you really, want beef?) Like that, like that *echoes* (Ahahaha! Yeah, I like that) (Big Nash, hit me baby, on and on and on and on) (Bad Boy) (Y'all know what it is) (Shit, I don't want no beef, ahaaa!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tough Love Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 26 sided, you are the man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 look, they're blowing it up as a whole 'racism' thing cos it's the easiest thing in the world to write about. in reality it's just a bunch of meatheads fighting with other meatheads, and it's gradually turned into the huge situation it is now. there may be an underlying 'us v them' mentality, but only to make it easier to pick a side and pick a target. the skinheads and whatnot are capitalising on it all and a chomping at the bit, but bottom line is it's just a bunch of morons who got a little too much sun. idiots love to get into big gangs and beat people up, particularly when picking on a group smaller than them (in this case, the lebanese community). they all want to fight the fight they know they can win. get 1000 vs 1000 and no-one would turn up. alot of people are calling the lebanese a bunch of cowards for whatever reasons, but all i see is 2 huge croups of cowards fighting against each other. the unfortunate thing is alot of innocent people are getting pulled into it which makes me a little pissed. i say just send in the army, mow them all down with tanks and just be done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CACashRefund Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 australians are fucking retarded you can clearly see that some of those bottles still have beer in them, so wasteful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I would be throwing marijuana smoke grenades at the angry mobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAustin Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I heart ignorance. :nope: nothing like beating up innocent people and inanimate objects to prove how manly you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Originally posted by SteveAustin@Dec 13 2005, 08:58 AM I heart ignorance. :nope: nothing like beating up innocent people and inanimate objects to prove how manly you are. Quoted post zackly. this whole situation is just plain embarrassing. i say everyone with a scrap of intelligence should all get together and make a utopian society and we'll ship all the retards off to some shit-hole with the promise of ice cream or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOx Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I just got news from a friend that his uncle and an uncles friend were in a car and about 50 lebs came over the crest of a hill running towards them. Before they could start the car and escape the lebs smashed every window with bats. They just managed to gun the car and get the fuck out of there. I think this happened on sunday night amongst violence in maroubra, in which close to a hundred cars were smashed, a white guy had a kitchen knife brake off in his back for going to the aid of a woman who was being harassed, and a white woman was punched in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrite Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 it's all over what? and then when you answer that ask the same thing again because in the end that violence is all over shit thats not worth fighting bout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Originally posted by WhiteOx@Dec 13 2005, 09:32 AM I just got news from a friend that his uncle and an uncles friend were in a car and about 50 lebs came over the crest of a hill running towards them. Before they could start the car and escape the lebs smashed every window with bats. They just managed to gun the car and get the fuck out of there. I think this happened on sunday night amongst violence in maroubra, in which close to a hundred cars were smashed, a white guy had a kitchen knife brake off in his back for going to the aid of a woman who was being harassed, and a white woman was punched in the face. Quoted post see, this is what i hate about this whole malarky. the main people getting hurt by all this shit are people that have nothing to do with it (and that goes for both sides). like some poor guy walking down the street minding his own business, or some girl on a bus or whatever. it's fuckin bullshit. both sides are a bunch of fuckin cowards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Europe Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Man, we rarely get news from Australia here, but this thing has been blown up here. Normally we only hear sweet little stories from there cause our Queen-to-be was imported from Tasmania, so this thing seem to have shocked the mainstream media here. I completely understand ABCs embarrasment. Fuck fighting, have a spliff and a smile and shut the fuck with your petty ignorant racist slander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Europe@Dec 12 2005, 07:05 PM Man, we rarely get news from Australia here, but this thing has been blown up here. Normally we only hear sweet little stories from there cause our Queen-to-be was imported from Tasmania, so this thing seem to have shocked the mainstream media here. I completely understand ABCs embarrasment. Fuck fighting, have a spliff and a smile and shut the fuck with your petty ignorant racist slander. Quoted post Word, spell racism and scandinavia will be the first to know. (not said in a bad bad way btw). Thats a fuckin horrible mess down under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Originally posted by Europe@Dec 13 2005, 10:05 AM I completely understand ABCs embarrasment. Fuck fighting, have a spliff and a smile and shut the fuck with your petty ignorant racist slander. Quoted post f'real. i'm moving to fuckin dopenhagen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPORTO Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Watch fo Gabbas though, its a grey area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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