johnneh7 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 ^ youre a retard. and beltoleum, it will say on the bottle, or you can tell by its smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feed Yer Ego Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 is it straight to mix a lacquer based with a alcohol, xylene and/or acetone base? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BELTOLEUM Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 ^ youre a retard. and beltoleum, it will say on the bottle, or you can tell by its smell nah man it doesnt say shit on the bottle just that its flammable, its smells like silly string with a hint of something else...ahaha I will try and find it thanks though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnneh7 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 id say you have an 80 % chance of it being oil based. only graff ink ive bought has been D*E*D and oink, so i really dunno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BELTOLEUM Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 yea not trying to fuck up 24oz of ink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootybrown Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 what the fucks in a spanish montana ink? that shits too potent after two tags my backpack reaked of that shit but its super clean in a mop almost makes me wanna pay for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomentIsNow Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Ink can NEVER be too potent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasek Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 id say you have an 80 % chance of it being oil based. only graff ink ive bought has been D*E*D and oink, so i really dunno nah im pretty sure its xylene or alcohol based. oink is alcohol based aswell. most GOOD inks are oil based though, becasue theyre kind of a mix, highly pigmented like DED with lot of stainers too. And with oil based inks its a lot easier to find binders to suspend pigments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMASHTHAT Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 So I'm fairly new to making ink. Shit this is actually my first time trying, and it's been fun so far. I'm actually using the alcohol-based recipe lasek posted a couple pages back involvin' shellac and denatured alcohol. I've got the carbon all ground up and had a question involving a stainer suggestion. What the hell is "GV?" Please don't think I didn't try searchin' it, but going off just an abbreviation is kind of hard.. I'm familiar with that methyl blue stuff, but am interested in getting this mysterious "GV." Any input would help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasek Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 gv is gentian violet, its the purple stuff that comes in lil bottles, does the same thing as iodine, u can find it in teh band aid isle SOMETIMES. its also the only stainer in garvey. garvey is basically highly concentrated gv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnneh7 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 nah im pretty sure its xylene or alcohol based. oink is alcohol based aswell. most GOOD inks are oil based though, becasue theyre kind of a mix, highly pigmented like DED with lot of stainers too. And with oil based inks its a lot easier to find binders to suspend pigments yeah, i wasnt saying oink was, i dont know anything about grog though. but now i know its alco based. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasek Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 word. heres a list of inks n thier bases for anyone who wants to know oink-alcohol grog-alcohol DED-oil pilot-xylene??? ? ? garvey-alcohol mr.black(and all mr colors)-oil all those shitty paints liek gusto ect.-oil corio-alcohol feel free to add to my list 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapirogy Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 word. heres a list of inks n thier bases for anyone who wants to know oink-alcohol grog-alcohol DED-oil pilot-xylene??? ? ? garvey-alcohol mr.black(and all mr colors)-oil all those shitty paints liek gusto ect.-oil corio-alcohol feel free to add to my list Pilot - alocohol mr.black - nitro garvey - dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasek Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 ^im talking what type of solvent. and nitro is oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnneh7 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 lasek i just got rid of your tampon, youre welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasek Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 oh jesus, im liberated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeahnation Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Hey just so you know only DED Outdoorsman is oil. Indoorsman is definitely alcohol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasek Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 oh word, didnt even thin kabout indoors. anyone ever tried the indoors? i know the outdoors is great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeahnation Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 The indoorsman is a good ink. Certainly not the greatest ink ever, but nowhere near the worst either. Personally I prefer Oink + Pilot, but DED won't hurt any sound ink mixture, whether you're adding it to your own mix, a flebings mix, another ink. It'll work fine straight up, even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasek Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 yea oink n pilot shud be good. basically, to make a good ink out of brand inks, just take any pigmented ink : DED outdoors pilot marsh ect then mix it with any hard staining/ mostly dye based ink: garvey-best(its legit only dye and solvwnts) oink corio grog whatever floats ur boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnneh7 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 It stains harder, but fades in the sun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnneh7 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Last comment was referring to DED indoors. I'm on my iPhone right now so it doesn't always Goto the right page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasek Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 anyone here wanna trade anything for some benzophenone? ive got like 2 500g tubs of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dBking Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 i mean how many people know how to use it? but sure, ill bite. what you want for it? and also, why have yout not done anythign with it yet? it seems very self explanatory what to do with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feed Yer Ego Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 how would you use it in an ink mix? to help dye based/heavy mixes fade less? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasek Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 yea it dissolves in alcohol and is kinda like sunscreen for inks. they use it in plastic packaging to make the products not fade. and i have used it...but i only use like half a spoonful per ink mix, so 1000g lasts a long time. PM me if u want some, i want cash, brand name markers, or caps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dBking Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 how much cash? will you take pre-rolled blunts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasek Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 how about 5$ per ounce. i have it in solid form and no blunts haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 edit :i posted in the wrong thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootybrown Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 anyone know how to make ink outta the blood of dead children? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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