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abrasivesaint Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Kults said: how so? genuinely curious why you’d think that. Other than just parroting what you’ve heard, what exactly has he done for you to think he’s an asshat? From what i’ve seen, he’s disingenuous to say the least. His reporting on CHAZ/CHOP is about 1/4 truth, 3/4 creating a narrative of exaggeration, bullshit, and willfully leaving out important factors. I happened to be up here for work when this all kicked off. I went to protests and marches. I also wandered around CHAZ/CHOP after it was formed. I was there throughout the night leading up to hours before the police left the precinct and “CHAZ” formed.. I was observing among the 4 dozen or so people there throughout the night. I have photos and video i can share if my word isn’t good enough. I’ll pull one minor but still important example.. This dude wasn’t just some dude “bothering protesters.” He would force his way through people, sometimes knocking people over, or almost knocking people over, screaming about sinners burning in hell, jesus is coming, repent.. He would scream that “his mission is not complete.” “Lord, part the red sea as you did for Moses, Lord..” all that good shit. So the same way people were outraged at those idiots yelling at the restaurant patrons, he was doing the same at the actual peaceful protests, pre-CHAZ. Here’s how he was handled the majority of the time, (and this is my photo.) People would surround him, attempting to prevent him from pushing his way through the crowd screaming at people, which is what he would end up doing anyway. I would wager that the photo you see of him being dragged, he put himself on the ground like a child throwing a tantrum, and then was dragged away from the crowd. He would do it when people would surround him. He would just slump into their bodies until he was on the pavement, and then lay there screaming, sometimes thrashing about. The dude had issues. Some of the on site nurses and physicians tried to help. One social worker actually knew him from the past. No one could get through to him, he would just keep screaming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) Another thing people willfully or ignorantly leave out when mentioning Raz Simone, someone Ngo brings up, as most stories about CHAZ do, is the Deuce 8 gang and other gangs. Some of the shootings, fights and other shit that went down in CHAZ was gang related. Deuce 8 claims the Central District just to the east of Cal Anderson park, where the protests were, and where they set up CHAZ/CHOP, and other gangs claim other nearby neighborhoods. (Cal Anderson is the long green patch by the IMO in Art Primo below.) From what some locals told me, gang violence is nothing knew to the Capital Hill area. It’s also infested with homelessness and drug addicts, another factor often left out of the CHAZ conversation. Probably 1/4-1/3 of the crowd tenting in the park were homeless people who just took advantage. There was a lot of opportunism going on. Edited September 26, 2020 by abrasivesaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 hours ago, abrasivesaint said: From what i’ve seen, he’s disingenuous to say the least. His reporting on CHAZ/CHOP is about 1/4 truth, 3/4 creating a narrative of exaggeration, bullshit, and willfully leaving out important factors. I happened to be up here for work when this all kicked off. I went to protests and marches. I also wandered around CHAZ/CHOP after it was formed. I was there throughout the night leading up to hours before the police left the precinct and “CHAZ” formed.. I was observing among the 4 dozen or so people there throughout the night. I have photos and video i can share if my word isn’t good enough. I’ll pull one minor but still important example.. This dude wasn’t just some dude “bothering protesters.” He would force his way through people, sometimes knocking people over, or almost knocking people over, screaming about sinners burning in hell, jesus is coming, repent.. He would scream that “his mission is not complete.” “Lord, part the red sea as you did for Moses, Lord..” all that good shit. So the same way people were outraged at those idiots yelling at the restaurant patrons, he was doing the same at the actual peaceful protests, pre-CHAZ. Here’s how he was handled the majority of the time, (and this is my photo.) People would surround him, attempting to prevent him from pushing his way through the crowd screaming at people, which is what he would end up doing anyway. I would wager that the photo you see of him being dragged, he put himself on the ground like a child throwing a tantrum, and then was dragged away from the crowd. He would do it when people would surround him. He would just slump into their bodies until he was on the pavement, and then lay there screaming, sometimes thrashing about. The dude had issues. Some of the on site nurses and physicians tried to help. One social worker actually knew him from the past. No one could get through to him, he would just keep screaming. hmm I dunno man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 True separate groups of facists trying to convince one another that their form of fascism is better. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ndv Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Dark_Knight said: True separate groups of facists trying to convince one another that their form of fascism is better. I see what you did there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kults Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 here’s a spicy one 🌶 link to the interview in the nyt https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/magazine/12ginsburg-t.html here’s a link to get passed the paywall https://archive.is/mLWg2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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abrasivesaint Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Kults said: hmm I dunno man Ya i know what happened to him, which is why he’s even more biased. Just because he got attacked doesn’t mean he’s honest. He sensationalizes, and i’ve always had a problem with that, no matter the side of the argument. Here’s some more info about dishonest reporting and twitter posting, from the other side, that lead to violence at CHAZ.. When that dude Tiny and other Proud Boys showed up trying to instigate a fight, they were in a white mini van. They attacked a dude filming them, it’s all on video, and it’s hilariously bad. I’m part of a chat on discord that has their ear to the ground on a lot of this shit. Some of them are journalists and so on. Some people in there were reporting that a trans woman had been kidnapped by a white SUV, and immediately it was blamed on the Proud Boys and Tiny. I hit the brakes hard on the conversation, as i would here, and was arguing that there’s a lot of white SUVs. Who saw for sure that it was members of the PBs? Who was this trans woman that got kidnapped? No one knew her name? Why would the PBs kidnap a trans woman? None of it was making sense. Fast forward, 2 teenagers are driving around CHOP, just seeing what they could see. They take a wrong turn and it leads them somewhere they shouldn’t be driving. People freak out and the shooting pops off, and these 2 teenagers get killed. Do you know what they were driving? A white SUV. That story about the trans woman being kidnapped turned out to be bullshit. Someone seeking attention fabricated the whole thing, using kernels of truth from previous and current situations, and they admitted it eventually. Now because of that story, all of CHOP was on edge because of a non-existent white SUV. Those 2 teenagers are victims of an insane coincidence that they just so happened to be in a white SUV, and they were murdered because of it. All because someone wanted to be part of the headlines and Twitter posts. (If you don’t know who Tiny is, he’s a member of the Proud Boys and an open advocate for violence. He has a record for assault and ended up being arrested for jumping state lines during CHAZ because he lives in Oregon and was on probation.) Edited September 27, 2020 by abrasivesaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mercer Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 Andy NGO built his entire "journalism" (lol) career trying to get assaulted, then complaining that he successfully got himself assaulted. Not that I hold your average Antifa in any higher regards, but he's clearly trying to cash in on the Anti Antifa crowd. Pretty sure he's changed zero opinions, ever, or enlightened anyone who liked Anitifa before seeing his "reporting". His crowd I can only imagine as hard core "all lives matter" boot licker types, masturbating to his videos, while fantasizing about murdering their own fellow citizens for being "Antifa". I picture washed up local yokel types, that never read a book in their life watching his shit saying "I wish antifa would try that with me, I'll fuckin, I'll fuckin...". *puts on latex gloves, gives cock a big dab of lotion* 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, Kults said: The truth always finds a way. lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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