KILZ FILLZ Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 ^ bet my soul in a poker game before. Didn't lose it. Agnostic however I was a lil more nervous than I thought I would be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EXECUTIVE_FINGERBLAST Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 if your still not sure if there is a god, keep exploring. you have to think beyond religion. Catholicism was created to control, they took the truth and distorted it for power. with power comes money and respect. and every other religion came from subjective views of what was set by the catholic church. you dont need a bible to learn ANYTHING. its just a story, you can find every thing you need to know in yourself and in nature. god is the divine consciousness, we are god, we are one. at some point in humanity, we lost that consciousness and limited ego took over. and thats were we are today. control by time, religion, politics, war, race... etc etc. and all that is constructed by our ego. the good thing is, consciousness comes in cycles, right now we are on the ninth wave, which is the beginning of the true devine consciousness. that's what the mayans' were telling us, not that the physical world is going to end. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 wait. all religion came from catholicism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 science is our times 'religion' In the future...humans will think science is a bunch of bullshit just as christians, muslims, etc think the ancient gods of the past, such as the greek gods, are bullshit. because guess what? A lot of shit in this world/universe still can't be explained by science. Science is not the answer. Bow down to something greater than yourself trick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CILONE/SK Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 ^ I am already talking too much shit in another crossfire thread, so I will reply to this post with just saying that it is "interesting". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSent Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 If Jesus isnt Real, then who pushes up the next klenex ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 ^ I am already talking too much shit in another crossfire thread, so I will reply to this post with just saying that it is "interesting". well to each their own. bottom line is...science isnt the answer to our being. It's ignorant to think that a greater power doesn't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CILONE/SK Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 because guess what? A lot of shit in this world/universe still can't be explained by science. this interests me, what exactly are you referring too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 everything that can't be explained by science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CILONE/SK Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Like? Someone told me that no one can explain why the sky is blue in another thread, I provided instructional guidance as to the reason it is blue. Maybe you just have not been made aware of the reasons of the things you think science can not explain. I will be glad to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 we can go back to the original question. how did the universe come to be? don't give me some big bang theory bs...that is what we call a theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXECUTIVE_FINGERBLAST Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 the problem with science is that they cant marry a higher power with science. they would rather say the universe literally came from nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CILONE/SK Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 we can go back to the original question. how did the universe come to be? don't give me some big bang theory bs...that is what we call a theory. What is wrong with the big bang theory? At least it is plausible, but it is hard to argue against if you do not tell me what you think is wrong with it. To dismiss it as just a theory, is not giving it its due. I can easily say the same thing about the bible and god. "don't give me some God and Bible bs...that is what we call a Book" For real, I want to talk about this intelligently. I just got out of a class where I got into this pretty deeply. I gladly can get into the science aspect of this, but I might as well be reading you a text book. It will be easier if you narrow it down somewhat, because there is alot of complex items that can be discussed when talking about the universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 cilone, you'll do better just starting at page one and reading than starting a new conversation about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 well for something that rides heavily on fact...the big bang theory seems pretty flawed. the problem with science is that they cant marry a higher power with science. they would rather say the universe literally came from nothing. ^this too. i find it more believable that a greater power created the universe rather than a 'poof' when i say greater power...im not necessarily talking about God as we know it. Just something that is so great we will never be able to comprehend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CILONE/SK Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I actually did skim through it all last week. I did not see anything concerning the actual science of it, for example spectra lines and wave lengths used to see what orbital objects are made of and how old they are. Mostly it is just the theory aspect of it all, without getting too deep into the science of it. I can understand not wanting to get too deep into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 sorry, i was thinking this was still THIS thread (the old god thread, much better conversations were had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CILONE/SK Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Dark Knight, what flaws are there that concern you? All science is very new when you consider the age of the universe and how young man kind is when compared to it. I will agree that there are numerous issues that are not answered, but I do not think that is because they are unanswerable, but that we are just not advanced enough to discover them or analyze them. For example we just fully charted for the first time the ice flow in Antarctica http://www.fastcompany.com/1774708/watching-the-ice-flow-on-antarctica If we have not even discovered our planet fully, we still are babies crawling in relation to discovering the rest of the universe. So, of course we can not explain everything, but there are very plausible reasons to not give up on science to accept a book that no one also knows where it came from or who wrote it. Not trying to get down on anyone because of their religion, I would just like to school some people to things that they never thought of. That is why I am asking if you can narrow it down a little, because there is alot of subject matter in what we are talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUPITZME25 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 GOD DOESNT EXIST BUT BASED GOD DOESS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CILONE/SK Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 ^werd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 the thought of anything beyond food and shelter in general is new in the grand scheme of things. what i was originally trying to say is... we will never know the real origin to our universe. Our minds arent nearly evolved enough to do so. Which is why i think it's better to believe in a greater power than a theory of coming from nothing. but like i said... to each their own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CILONE/SK Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 cool, I think we both realize that we are not able to know everything about our position in the universe, but I think you drifted to religion and I drifted to science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXECUTIVE_FINGERBLAST Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 wait. all religion came from catholicism? i should of said, that was the first established "religion", and every religion is a subjective view of catholicism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXECUTIVE_FINGERBLAST Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 cilone do you know any science behind, conscious cycles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CILONE/SK Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I personally do not put any faith in it or the world is going to end soon thing, which is what I believe the 2012 thing came from. isn't the last cycle that is suppose to be really short, coming up this year or next? Feel free to tell me about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 i should of said, that was the first established "religion", and every religion is a subjective view of catholicism. again, what? there are thousands of religions that exist without jesus or catholicism and that did so long before jesus. i don't understand what you're trying to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXECUTIVE_FINGERBLAST Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 i didnt know if there was some neuroscience behind it that you might have known of. i dont think its so much of, on a certain date, every one on earth will begin to ascend to their higher consciousness. i dont believe anything is set at a point in time, its your consciousnsess that creates everything. but what do i know? what i believe and what my intuition tells me is that, our brain is downloading consciouness from the cosmos, and the downloads our increasing as we are increasing our ability to handle them. i think were seeing and will be seeing alot of deaths this year in order to evolve humanity as a whole. im not some guru, but i am experienceing this in myself and in people around me. its nothing that im buying into. its just a understanding ive come to over the past couple of weeks. its crazy man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXECUTIVE_FINGERBLAST Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 again, what? there are thousands of religions that exist without jesus or catholicism and that did so long before jesus. i don't understand what you're trying to say. im back pedaling now. but what im getting at is, religion has been used to control power, which would explain why jesus was killed, Galileo was persecuted by the catholic church etc etc. and yes i believe jesus was real, mary wasnt a virgin, and that he was a higher consciousness, and maybe the most prolific and notable of his kind at the time. the bible has painted a picture of jesus as a super hero, "the son of god". point being if humanity didnt have those distortions, we would all be free. there would be no power or money that our ego's crave. do you see what im saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avesism Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I'm not sure about "God," but enough of my experiences on psychedelic drugs have made the question of if there's anything beyond this existence pretty moot. It's the most easily accessible, tangible explanation available, as far as I'm concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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