Tea Party

[angelofdeath]

the last democrat with balls was james traficant

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[Smart]

the last democrat with balls on his chin in a prison shower room was james traficant

 

*fixed

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[Smart]

^way to stay classy.

 

Actually, why do I keep seeing these really tasteless references to the holocaust from members of the extreme right? Less than a week ago I read on WorldNetDaily about "Obama's 'Final Solution' for Israel". What the hell is this stuff? Do these people actually buy into the South Park 22yr rule concerning tragedy vs. comedy? Now that we have a black President it's no longer 'cool' to use the American slave experience as a metaphor for everything bad so now white gentile Americans feel as if they can somehow exploit the horrors visited on European Jews for political profit? It seems to get nastier and nastier and mostly towards people who aren't the direct targets of the attacks. I just don't get it.

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[TheoHuxtable..]

Definitely has nothing to do with race. This is about the issues & big government!

 

 

I like how they accuse him of being a fascist & a communist, when both are on opposite ends of the political spectrum. They just throw out any adjective with a negative connotation attached to it, and hope something sticks.

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[TheoHuxtable..]

Amazing footage -- Fox News anchor supports public option and blasts Republicans.

 

 

Not that surprising though, it's Shepard Smith, and he's attacked Republicans in the past. Maybe he's a moderate after all.

[keso cheese]

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced Patriots to prevent its ruin." Samuel Adams

 

more quoting of famous people

[R@ndomH3ro]

What the hell happened to the Tea Party, it seemed like a good idea for the change that the government "promised" to be put back into the hands of the people. I just saw the Tea Party Convention footage on TV and it seems its now just a big Fox News stage.

 

I am not the only one that thinks that as well

 

Ron Paul: ‘Neocon influence’ is infiltrating tea parties

 

 

Fucking government and neocons are always trying to sneak in and turn shit into their warmongering agenda.

 

Boo

[Fist 666]

this is so fucking dumb, but its the wittiest i've seen. i actually had a chuckle

 

i deal with a lot of anti-obama/hate with the guys i work with. they explain their complete distaste for socialism in one sentence, then defend the military's structure the next. then they call him a communist and a nigger in the next breath.

 

people are dumb.

[R@ndomH3ro]

I dont think the problem is Obama (great ideas, shitty implementation)

 

I think the problem is government in general, most of these crusty old dudes are so out of touch with society that the "good plans" they have really dont help to do shit. Also the "good plans" later through delegation and dicussion get so tainted with lobbyist agendas and "good ole boy" networking that it just becomes an idea of how we can get more money from the public.

 

I really think that America needs to wake up and see that even the "good idea" of a radical change movement is getting saturated with hidden agendas and blatent ignorance of what is really going on

[.hopeless.]

i think we need to just trash all of these fools in the house and senate adn start over.maybe make it so you can run only so many terms.some of these guys have been around since the fifties and sixties.like random said these guys are too detached from the public why keep them on? are they really representing the people or just special interest? i dont know my head hurts and my house is a messs i must go clean some things fucktheworldandeveryoneonitiwishihadamaidorsomeshitpreferablyoneoffrenchorcaribeandecentandonewhodoesntspeakenglishyeeeeeahthatswhatineed

[Decyferon]

haha hopeless I said that same sort of thing in the Obama thread, these guys in their 60s havent got a fucking clue and are so out of touch with the real world they aren't doing anyone any favours

[.hopeless.]

i mean if they arent listening to us then they arent really doing their job right? representing the people means just that. listening to our wants and to follow through with it because the country is to big for the people to vote on every little thing.if we run the country into the ground becuase of our own stupidity in the process so be it.its like these guys think they know whats best for the american people but they dont live like us so how the fuck can they know what we need.idk. ive lost all faith in these cats in congress and shit. im just gonna keep studying my mandarin seeing as chinas gonna fucking own our ass in about 20 years or someshit.

 

 

anyone know how to say where is the bathroom and chinese???

[laughslast]

^^Mandarin or Cantonese?

[.hopeless.]

im assuming that mandarin is more widespread so yeah...

[russell jones]

[ILOTSMYBRAIN]

Alice comes off looking like a demon in that one.

[boratderkaghad]

its easier to call him a marxist or hitler cuz you cant call him a nigger even though thats what there thinking its all about i mean did they sit there and call bill a nazi when he was president or gore a nazi when he was running 'no' do you think they would call hilary a commie if she was pres no they would be calling her a bitch instead its all about bait and switch you have a party thats been know for keeping down the people blocking civil rights and human rights as well i mean do you think cheney gives a fuck i dont know you tell me and ron paul called bruno a fag sure the dems have got there problems too but fuck the republicans is like a sinking ship foley,that guy who had that bitch in south america,rumsfeld,kathren harris,and my girl whos nailin palin so the republicans need to get there shit together before they go after the big guy or else wait what am i thinking the republican party is dead well at least for the next 8 years or so r.i.p you white fucks

[ILOTSMYBRAIN]

Very interesting perspective you have there.

[Smart]

Historically speaking, the Republican party is recognized as the first to really demand civil equality and suffrage for both freed blacks and women. Abe Lincoln was a Republican.

[lord_casek]

The GOP's "small government" tea party fraud

 

 

 

There's a major political fraud underway: the GOP is once again donning their libertarian, limited-government masks in order to re-invent itself and, more important, to co-opt the energy and passion of the Ron-Paul-faction that spawned and sustains the "tea party" movement. The Party that spat contempt at Paul during the Bush years and was diametrically opposed to most of his platform now pretends to share his views. Standard-issue Republicans and Ron Paul libertarians are as incompatible as two factions can be -- recall that the most celebrated right-wing moment of the 2008 presidential campaign was when Rudy Giuliani all but accused Paul of being an America-hating Terrorist-lover for daring to suggest that America's conduct might contribute to Islamic radicalism -- yet the Republicans, aided by the media, are pretending that this is one unified, harmonious, "small government" political movement.

 

The Right is petrified that this fraud will be exposed and is thus bending over backwards to sustain the myth. Paul was not only invited to be a featured speaker at the Conservative Political Action Conference but also won its presidential straw poll. Sarah Palin endorsed Ron Paul's son in the Kentucky Senate race. National Review is lavishly praising Paul, while Ann Coulter "felt compelled [in her CPAC speech] to give a shout out to Paul-mania, saying she agreed with everything he stands for outside of foreign policy -- a statement met with cheers." Glenn Beck -- who literally cheered for the Wall Street bailout and Bush's endlessly expanding surveillance state -- now parades around as though he shares the libertarians' contempt for them. Red State's Erick Erickson, defending the new so-called conservative "manifesto," touts the need for Congress to be confined to the express powers of Article I, Section 8, all while lauding a GOP Congress that supported countless intrusive laws -- from federalized restrictions on assisted suicide, marriage, gambling, abortion and drugs to intervention in Terri Schiavo's end-of-life state court proceeding -- nowhere to be found in that Constitutional clause. With the GOP out of power, Fox News suddenly started featuring anti-government libertarians such as John Stossel and Reason Magazine commentators, whereas, when Bush was in power, there was no government power too expanded or limitless for Fox propagandists to praise.

 

This is what Republicans always do. When in power, they massively expand the power of the state in every realm. Deficit spending and the national debt skyrocket. The National Security State is bloated beyond description through wars and occupations, while no limits are tolerated on the Surveillance State. Then, when out of power, they suddenly pretend to re-discover their "small government principles." The very same Republicans who spent the 1990s vehemently opposing Bill Clinton's Terrorism-justified attempts to expand government surveillance and executive authority then, once in power, presided over the largest expansion in history of those very same powers. The last eight years of Republican rule was characterized by nothing other than endlessly expanded government power, even as they insisted -- both before they were empowered and again now -- that they are the standard-bearers of government restraint.

 

What makes this deceit particularly urgent for them now is that their only hope for re-branding and re-empowerment lies in a movement -- the tea partiers -- that has been (largely though not exclusively) dominated by libertarians, Paul followers, and other assorted idiosyncratic factions who are hostile to the GOP's actual approach to governing. This is a huge wedge waiting to be exposed -- to explode -- as the modern GOP establishment and the actual "small-government" libertarians that fuel the tea party are fundamentally incompatible. Right-wing mavens like Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin and National Review are suddenly feigning great respect for Ron Paul and like-minded activists because they're eager that the sham will be maintained: the blatant sham that the modern GOP and its movement conservatives are a coherent vehicle for those who believe in small government principles. The only evidence of a passionate movement urging GOP resurgence is from people whose views are antithetical to that Party. That's the dirty secret which right-wing polemicists are desperately trying to keep suppressed. Credit to Mike Huckabee for acknowledging this core incompatibility by saying he would not attend CPAC because of its "increasing libertarianism."

 

These fault lines began to emerge when Sarah Palin earlier this month delivered the keynote speech to the national tea party conference in Nashville, and stood there spitting out one platitude after the next which Paul-led libertarians despise: from neoconservative war-loving dogma and veneration of Israel to glorification of "War on Terror" domestic powers and the need of the state to enforce Palin's own religious and cultural values. Neocons (who still overwhelmingly dominate the GOP) and Paul-led libertarians are arch enemies, and the social conservatives on whom the GOP depends are barely viewed with greater affection. Sarah Palin and Ron Paul are about as far apart on most issues as one can get; the "tea party movement" can't possibly be about supporting each of their worldviews. Moreover, the GOP leadership is currently promising Wall Street even more loyal subservience than Democrats have given in exchange for support, thus bolstering the government/corporate axis which libertarians find so repugnant. And Coulter's manipulative claim that she "agrees with everything [Paul] stands for outside of foreign policy" is laughable; aside from the fact that "foreign policy" is a rather large issue in our political debates (Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan, Iran, Russia), they were on exactly the opposite sides of the most intense domestic controversies of the Bush era: torture, military commissions, habeas corpus, Guantanamo, CIA secrecy, telecom immunity, and warrantless eavesdropping.

 

Part of why this fraud has been sustainable thus far is that libertarians -- like everyone who doesn't view all politics through the mandated, distorting, suffocating Democrat v. GOP prism -- are typically dismissed as loons and nuts, and are thus eager for any means of achieving mainstream acceptance. Having the GOP embrace them is one way to achieve that (Karl Rove: some "see the tea party movement as a recruiting pool for volunteers for Ron Paul's next presidential bid . . . . The Republican Party and the tea party movement have many common interests"). Additionally, just as the Paul-faction of libertarians is in basic harmony with many progressives on issues of foreign policy and civil liberties, they do subscribe to the standard GOP rhetoric on domestic spending, social programs and the like.

 

But that GOP limited government rhetoric is simply never matched by that Party's conduct, especially when they wield power. The very idea that a political party dominated by neocons, warmongers, surveillance fetishists, and privacy-hating social conservatives will be a party of "limited government" is absurd on its face. There literally is no myth more transparent than the Republican Party's claim to believe in restrained government power. For that reason, it's only a matter of time before the fundamental incompatibility of the "tea party movement" and the political party cynically exploiting it is exposed.

 

 

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/02/21/libertarianism

[R@ndomH3ro]

wall o text...will read later

[nsmbfan]

thats why i like shows like the Daily Show. they will expose flip flopping politicians at the drop of a dime.

 

if you can't beat em join em. get in where you fit in. fake it till you make it. once you make it, rape them of it. rinse, repeat.

 

politics is simple yet complex. its a slide of hand. its like a giant fucking magic show. watch for the smoke mirrors and wires. and still be amazed when you're too drunk to figure out just how they did it.

 

this forum is a downer. ima go look at boobies.

[Smart]

pretty sure you can't carry a gun in a national park, even the ones inhabited by bears... so much for freedom.

 

Oh but wait, as of today, you're totally allowed to carry guns of all sorts into national parks, provided that the state allows it as well. You can thank that gun-hating liberal President we have for that one.