tripple sicx Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 hes showing how the red bled thru the buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironlak Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 hey Guys, Kem raises a good point and its something we are actually working on, while we're quite confident in our product this is one area we'd like to work on and are doing so, but like Rustofills said its not a critical area for us, as someone stated many good reds do bleed through. This is good if your bombing as stated above, not so great in Kems situation when he's trying to do a light outline. But it is something we're working on and are well aware of. In other news someone's been spreading false rumours about the toxicology of Ironlak. check this link for the facts. http://www.ironlak.com/learnmore/2009/08/styrofoam-and-heath-of-our-product.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICIOUS->147 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Ironwak! Im collecting blocked cans to throw through your office windows hahaha..I don't want to shake my cans like im a.d.d when im trying to be low. Only good for fill, the price explains the quality...Aeroskills is better for the same price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceks41 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Bring your little girl bitching somewhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustofills Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 True that. The fact still rests at Ironlak is a good paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdrake123 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 I have no complaints with the Ironlak i've used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 Ironwak! Im collecting blocked cans to throw through your office windows hahaha..I don't want to shake my cans like im a.d.d when im trying to be low. Only good for fill, the price explains the quality...Aeroskills is better for the same price. thats laughable. Aeroskills own writer team all quit on them, that should tell u something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironlak Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Ironwak! Im collecting blocked cans to throw through your office windows hahaha..I don't want to shake my cans like im a.d.d when im trying to be low. Only good for fill, the price explains the quality...Aeroskills is better for the same price. Vicious, because were a company that cares we're happy to give you some good common sense advice. Shake your cans before you go out, that way they work, you get the job done, you don't draw unwanted attention to yourself and you don't come on here blaming us. You don't even need to shake them that much really !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICIOUS->147 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I don't give two fucks about team bullshit I use what works better..Ironwak only covers more area(fill paint) then aeroskills..Other then that aeroskills is alot newer in the development stage and already owns ironsmack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 if you honestly believe that Aeroskills is better paint than Ironlak, then I wont waste my time saying any more to you. You keep using those gluggy piece of shit rip-off tins, and best of luck to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnneh7 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 yeah i feel you. clear coat wouldnt do anything to protect from sun anyways, i dont think the ironlak clear coat is UV protective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A K E R Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 you guys complain about the small stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..LAZRS... Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 yo any special reason it's an 11oz can and not 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddy Mercury Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 because the toilets flush in the opposite direction over there mate....Thats why.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_gooch Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 ironlak is good stuff and the price is not bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnitzel Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Ironlak how do you test pressure on the cans with regards to temprature. I recently did a piece with some in Boston USA with the usual quality results ironlak gives (firm supporter of Ironlak) it was a summer's day and very hot but quite dry. Then I wnet to montreal and it was a summer day but not like we'd have in Australia and the paint pressure seemed to have doubled and wouldn't spray clean lines and was really hard to work with which seemed really strange. Does humidity have any bearing on the pressure of the cans or is it strictly temperature? or does excessive shaking have any bearing on it? Just because the day before the cans were in the luggage hold of a greyhound bus so maybe that's it. and fuck aeroskills completely. awful awful paint (except the the satin periwinkle which is a nice colour) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustofills Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Schnitzel the answer is temperature. The hotter a can of almost anything condensed /or pressurized. The higher the pressure is going to be, not just a can of paint. Even shaving cream can have a higher pressure when it's hot enough. The only factors I can think of which involve humidity in the case of a cans function, would be the little rubber O-ring at the actuator of the can. ( The top where you the spray cap fits in.) Were as humidity could moisturize the o-ring and swell it up a little thus providing a tighter fit between the can and the spray nozzle. As opposed to if that same o-ring was to dry and likly to and up resulting in a leaker / blown can. Because the o-ring could be to dry and crack allowing paint to provide the above action. ( POPPING leaking paint and lossing pressure.) This again is something that can happen with ANY female styled can or brand of paint. The only thing excessive shaking will do is mix your paint well. One trick to try and provent a o-ring from cracking in a dry environment is either to spit in to the little hole on the top of the can where you fit the cap or drop a little oil in there about a hour or more before useing said can. But that trick is no guarantee the can will not leak. If you think about it. Its like trying to provent ripping your girls asshole appart when butt banging her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomentIsNow Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 ^^ Good shit. Guess I'm gonna a/c my basement and run a humidifier to keep my can's top notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Orenthal Norton Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 haha. you dont have to go that far. just keep them below 100 degrees F and they should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2-C+C-2 Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Ironlak, i have a question. I've been a loyal oink supporter for years. He was a big supporter of ironlak when it came over, and I believe, that he was your wholesaler when you didnt have a warehouse here. I also know that he is one of, if not your biggest customer. Why is it, that with such a large customer, you allow other companies, like 33third get products before oink? I know his bills are paid on time simply through talking to him. Why is it that you do not seem to show support to your best customer, someone who has supported your brand since the beginning? Seems a poor business model, but i guess it falls in line with not testing your valves and allowing mass amounts of leakers onto the market. I like your paint, I like it a lot, but thinkin about it more, and being a loyal supporter of oink, and then not being able to get your new products like lil laks because of some stupid non support for him from ya'll, it makes me curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Orenthal Norton Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 on the distributing tip^ ive been trying to convince my local artstore to start carrying ironlak instead of overrated/overpriced german montana. being that your product is of better quality and more economical for both parties. they said they would consider it if i give them the contact info of a distributor here in the states. so whatever help you can offer will be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomentIsNow Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Ironlak, i have a question. I've been a loyal oink supporter for years. He was a big supporter of ironlak when it came over, and I believe, that he was your wholesaler when you didnt have a warehouse here. I also know that he is one of, if not your biggest customer. Why is it, that with such a large customer, you allow other companies, like 33third get products before oink? I know his bills are paid on time simply through talking to him. Why is it that you do not seem to show support to your best customer, someone who has supported your brand since the beginning? Seems a poor business model, but i guess it falls in line with not testing your valves and allowing mass amounts of leakers onto the market. I like your paint, I like it a lot, but thinkin about it more, and being a loyal supporter of oink, and then not being able to get your new products like lil laks because of some stupid non support for him from ya'll, it makes me curious. It might POSSIBLY be because of wider customer base. Meaning that other sites might have more customers than oink. ( I doubt it though ) I've been running caps from them for a while now and I'm happy with the shipping. That being said, there are many factors as to which distributor gets the latest products first. You'll just have to wait until the 'laK gets here to answer that question himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironlak Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 2-C+C-2, Oink is very much a valuable customer of Ironlak, and someone we'd like to think we have a great relationship with, that isn't to say of late we haven't slipped up when it comes service etc. There was clearly a communication breakdown that resulted in us letting down Oink which we've apologized for and from what i can gather taken steps to ensure it doesn't happen in future. There are times when we do ship customers products at the same time (in this case it didn't happen) and unfortunately some customers have a longer transit time than others. If our warehouse was based elsewhere then different customers would be dissadvantaged. We are again looking at options here to better support customers that are located further from our warehouse. We're a company run by humans, mistakes are bound to happen, but when we make them we do put our hand up and take responsibility for them, we also do our best to deal with the problem promptly so that its no something that has long-term consequences either. That being said, we appreciate that you are such a loyal customer of Oink, he works hard to build that customer loyalty and while we don't mind answering your questions we do our best to be as transparent with our customers as we can some points you raised could probably have been better answered by us on an email rather than public forum. In this case we're also sorry we let you down indirectly by not getting the Little Lak cans to Oink. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironlak Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Schnitzel, We're at a loss at to the reasons for the increased pressure, the only thing we can think of is although the outside temperature was less in Montreal were the cans sitting in more direct sunlight there by heating them and increasing the MPA of the propellant? This is the only thing we can think of. Obviously as you mentioned pressured increases and decreases with the temperature but humidity will really only affect the finish of the paint on the surface something we work pretty hard at given we sell in some humid environments. If you encounter the problem again let us know, but you can lets some of the gas out of the can, it will lower the pressure and about 15 seconds worth of gas isn't going to leave you with a half full can of paint and no gas as the gas itself is quite light. Sorry we couldn't really give you more help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2-C+C-2 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 2-C+C-2, Oink is very much a valuable customer of Ironlak, and someone we'd like to think we have a great relationship with, that isn't to say of late we haven't slipped up when it comes service etc. There was clearly a communication breakdown that resulted in us letting down Oink which we've apologized for and from what i can gather taken steps to ensure it doesn't happen in future. There are times when we do ship customers products at the same time (in this case it didn't happen) and unfortunately some customers have a longer transit time than others. If our warehouse was based elsewhere then different customers would be dissadvantaged. We are again looking at options here to better support customers that are located further from our warehouse. We're a company run by humans, mistakes are bound to happen, but when we make them we do put our hand up and take responsibility for them, we also do our best to deal with the problem promptly so that its no something that has long-term consequences either. That being said, we appreciate that you are such a loyal customer of Oink, he works hard to build that customer loyalty and while we don't mind answering your questions we do our best to be as transparent with our customers as we can some points you raised could probably have been better answered by us on an email rather than public forum. In this case we're also sorry we let you down indirectly by not getting the Little Lak cans to Oink. Thanks I think the lil laks are useless, just like montana micros and such, it was just the principal behind it. If you expect to hear only good things on 12oz and have all the bad things said through email, thats stupid. You're a startup company who clearly cares about how your product is being received by its customer base, which is amazing, you dont see that too often. Its a good way to do business, but on the same hand, your customers should also be aware of shady business practices that you seem to employ. Thats how a public forum works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Rasta~ Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustofills Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I fucking wish I had free and easy access to the amount of paint those guys on the ironlak team have. I would then be able rock some trully ill shit. Lucky fucks. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2-C+C-2 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Luckily for ironlak, only a few are still really active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomentIsNow Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 They should really make 600 and 750 ml cans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustofills Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Hmm yes tall boy cans. Would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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