Poesia [ ] T Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Nice post that first one is my favorite. Keep them coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth MontgomeryOner Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 T;6008583']Nice post that first one is my favorite. Keep them coming :cool: thanks but I certainly have nothing else to show, for me -drawing & finishing anything is a rare occurrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port-A-John Enthusiest Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 gesture and studies, but i guess could be considered abstract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayabusa Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 edit i like the very first one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 No offense Port-A-John but I don't think any of those fall under the abstract category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Cosigned unless your attempting to post figurative studies as a slap in the face of all us to show how abstract your thinking really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpo Marx Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 A lamp post drawn in squiggly lines is not an abstract lamp post, it is merely a poorly drawn lamp post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Whoever hasnt picked up beards new mini book pick it up. Beards my hat off to you, i wish you would post more stuff up here your. Get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 to move the thread along i present, just for some back ground here. to put up some important work that laid the foundations for many of the things people in here do. whether you recognize it or not. Mark Rothko.: One of the preeminent artists of his generation, Mark Rothko is closely identified with the New York School, a circle of painters that emerged during the 1940s as a new collective voice in American art. During a career that spanned five decades, he created a new and impassioned form of abstract painting. Rothko's work is characterized by rigorous attention to formal elements such as color, shape, balance, depth, composition, and scale; yet, he refused to consider his paintings solely in these terms. He explained: It is a widely accepted notion among painters that it does not matter what one paints as long as it is well painted. This is the essence of academicism. There is no such thing as good painting about nothing. Early works. Focus on Greek Mythology and a slow breaking of tradition with forms of symbolic representation. A turn towards stronger abstraction: "We favor the simple expression of the complex thought. We are for the large shape because it has the impact of the unequivocal. We wish to reassert the picture plane. We are for flat forms because they destroy illusion and reveal truth." By 1947 Rothko had virtually eliminated all elements of surrealism or mythic imagery from his works, and nonobjective compositions of indeterminate shapes emerged. The classic period. (These thigns are amazing to see in person. I had only seen the ones in the Rothko Chapel for a period of time, but the Menill Collection ended up putting one or two of his big ones out on display and they are stunning.) For scale of how large many of these are: Later works: (Go to the Rothko chapel if you ever have a chance. Photos do not do it justice.) Rothko in his 69th Street studio with Rothko Chapel murals, c. 1964, © Hans Namuth Estate, courtesy Center for Creative Photography, The University of Arizona Rothko's reading of Nietzsche, the nineteenth-century German philosopher, suggests that his compositions could represent the binary opposition between a rational or abstract element versus an emotional, primal, or tragic one (referring to Nietzsche's discussion of the polarity between an Apollonian and a Dionysian principle in artistic expression). Certain qualities such as radiance or the duality of light and dark have a long history of symbolic meaning in Western culture from which Rothko clearly drew. An impression of vast space can be said to represent the historical concept of the "sublime," a quasi-religious experience of limitless immensity in nature. Conversely, these canvases also produce an environment of their own, and installations of Rothko's work create the sensation of a sacrosanct place. Physically ill and suffering from depression, Rothko committed suicide on February 25, 1970. At the time of his death, he was widely recognized in Europe and America for his crucial role in the development of nonrepresentational art. His vibrant, disembodied veils of color asserted the power of nonobjective painting to convey strong emotional or spiritual content. With an unwavering commitment to a singular artistic vision, Rothko celebrated the near mythic power art holds over the creative imagination. Referrences: Google search: "rothko" National Gallery of Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 reminds me of this book. nice Post Crooked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 ran across this guy tonight Frank Nitsche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Most of the time I can't really dig abstracts done by mainstream or established artists. I can appreciate those as much as anything else I look at and like. Looks like Nitsche knows as much about the basic study of line and color as much as a good writer does. Makes me want to try abstracts if I can ever get off the computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 My friend showed me that dudes work last semester. I have some thoughts on it, but i will come back to it later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 I'm really liking the Frank Nitsche works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 A couple of links didnt want to post to much up Frank Nitsche more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serum Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 ive been working on realism for the last few years and i found that i cant do abstract worth shit. unless it was like that one artist that paints like huge realistic apples in a landscape. im also really horrible at remembering artist names and titles of songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 What type of Realist work you been working on. What other thread is there for painting besides the canvas thread that thread is pretty horrible sometimes. Post some of your owrk in untitled im curious to see others work thats not abstract. What about the oil painting thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serum Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 well i come from a mostly comic/animation style background. heavy on line drawings. alot of animals, monsters, and landscapes. ive always avoided drawing people. in terms of graffiti my letters always ended up looking like organic characters that really weren't character or letters so i gave up and now fall into the character writer category. so now ive been mostly just working on realistic portraits, as well as ones that still show that it comes from aerosol. i use photographs for sources so often that find i don't really paint my own stuff. faces are my biggest weak point so im trying to change that. i really like the mac's stuff as well as tasso and maclaime's stuff. i just need to try and learn to paint smaller. canvas sized stuff. i dont want to start a new thread since i dont have a good track record of keeping threads going so let me see if i have a few somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Ok Serum and Port oh John i made this thread if you want to contribute. http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6017456#post6017456 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serum Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 ok cool let me upload some stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 i HATE the early rothko stuff. same with newmans. i suppose it had its place in developing their later styles, but shit holds absolutely nothing for me, and almost annoys me with how wack i think it is. truth be told though, i really dont love rothko all that much. i really like the chapel, and occasionally he'll have paintings that i like, but im kinda like....'really, how many stripes can you paint, before you're just redoing the same painting in different 'colorways'?'. after the first couple, it becomes more of a study in color theory, than art. atleast for me. the thing that seperates newmans work from falling into that, is A. theres a shit ton less, so it cant be as derivative, but also he played wiht space and distance and form a whole lot more. blah, blah, blah, im late for work, sitting in the bathtub. about to brush my teeth, listening to headphones. that's abstract, bitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 well i smoked a lil abstract and here is my response: (I agree about the earlier works) However his art overall is some of my absolute favorite. Rothko had a retort to the concern that his work became formulaic color studies . I can't find it right now, but it goes something like this: He was not concerned with the study of color, but the evocation of human emotion through the experience of viewing his art. Here is what I think is an ok argument for his response. Do you think there are shades of emotion? Degrees of similarity and difference between the experiences of your life? Is not color the same way? Cannot the logic of difference we use in day to day life be the same logic of color? If things are similar but still logically independent they can be arranged, and compared to each other. Just like the composition of the color wheel itself. If Rothko believed he was focusing on the interaction of color as a translation of human emotion, the formula was the thing of utmost importance. The consistency through which one creates a range of associated data is through good experimental procedure. So to the abstract expressionist who values the destruction of form through some other consistency in their work takes the higher value. That his works reached such a level of consistency but were unique in each of their executions and evoking a different aesthetic experience when you view each one, is stunning. Each piece is a new experience given to you by the difference in the variables of the consistent application he found to present a certain range of experiences in human emotion. Color study if you want. Brilliant if you look at it further. Take some Mondrian for example. Would you take his works in the same fashion as the late Rothko? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I'm into this gluten free cinnamon raisin toast with dairy free butter right now... way abstract. Some next level nothingness far beyond everything. Haven't been in here for a long while but there is definitely some interesting stuff being posted. Hopefully I'll have time to contribute one of these days. Bike racing is a bitch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Contributions Would be Appreciated Joker. Here is mine for the week havnt got to get to the studio to work on the painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I really like that first one. I think if you were to try to make that one a painting you should take your last progression you showed us as a lesson on this one. Flat colors. Good mono or duochromatic background. Strong black linework. that second sketch is pretty awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabloid- Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Tom Mcgrath: not pure abstraction, but the painterly elements are interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Nice Bojangles I really like the Middle one. The first one im not sure about the organic looking lines. Good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Hell Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Jobangles, Middle one is the winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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