6OF1 Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Originally posted by rinse question for anyone... alcohol based solvents are best for disolving crystal violet. is there a method besides applying heat to completely disolve the powder? -the fumes linger too long even when i gently boil with a double boiler, but the end result is a very even and clean ink. -when i mix without heat, no fumes but the ink is too grainy and my marker nib gets that sludgey build-up. is there a happy medium? has anyone ever added the powder to straight alcohol first and then after its diluted, combined that with alcohol based ink? suggestions? Rinse, much respect, but I've answered these questions a few times. However: You do not need heat at all. You put your methyl violet in with some denatured or other anhydrous alcohol and stopper the vessel. Then shake the shit out of it. It doesn't hurt to let it sit overnight and shake it every now and then. You should be able to get upwards of 10g of dye to dissolve in as little as 100ml of alcohol that way. Thus, you have liquid dye additive. This is the only convenient way to do it so that you won't funk up your markers and then have to go at them with the denatured alcohol to clean them up. Be seeing you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6OF1 Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Originally posted by chumbawumba i had my computer being repaired so i had some good time to mess around with shit in my room, and i have some questions for 60F1.. or anyone that can answer them, rather.. Do me best, I will. :D i got some potassium permanganate and crytal violet this week. the potassium permanganate is a black "powder" that doesnt look like it will dissolve at all. i added it to a mix of garvey and red pilot ink, and a week later i was still here it crunching around when i shake my marker. i decided to hit up a tag with it, so i put up on a metal phone booth. 5 minutes later i came to look at it has a wierd discoloration too it, so i felt it and the potassium permanganate just sat on top of my tag, didnt dissolve at all.. maybe i got the wrong stuff but it says its an oxidiser on the container and 60F1 said the shit he has was an oxidiser so uh...? You've got the right thing. The shit is flat fucking evil. You need to dissolve it in some denatured alcohol first. Trust me, it will take a few days of shaking and cursing to get what you need. You also need to strain it out through a coffee filter or sommat before you try to add it to anything. anyway i was bored and decided to add some crystal violet to some black garvey.. i shook it up for a while and let it sit for a few hours. this time it was an actual powder that didnt have any trouble dissolving. it was green, but it turned purple after it dissolved. so i got a few tags up with that and it was the same shitty flat color as regular griffin, put with a purplish tint. then i added some black pilot ink (i'd say it was about 10-15 pipettes full) to it and shook it up and added some more crystal violet.. this is definitley a great mix.. one of my favorites.. definitley worth a try ! This is what it's all about, ffolkes. Man, I can't say enough good shit about black Pilot. I wish I could get it in sommat besides those little bottles. See, kids? If you just experiment a little you can get some bomb ass results. i got some leehos and zigs in the mail because i've heard good stuff about them. the leeho i opened and rinsed it all out and whatnot but i didnt put that circular soft ring thing back under where the nib goes when i put it back together because i didnt think it mattered. i also cut a slice down that tube that sticks out of the valve (the thing that the nib pushes on to get ink into it) like rinse said a while back because it increases drips. i love it because you get nice drips without pushing down on the nib, and they are nice little drips, not ones that totally smother your letters. i like this marker but when i screwed the top back on after i put my ink in it only screws on a little bit then clicks then its not tight anymore.. hard to explain.. like i start screwing it on and then it makes a click noise and its like starting over again.. i can never get it to close tight. so i took some "book tape" or whatever the fuck and taped in around and its been the greatest marker.. i love the little fucker. i dont know if this has happened to anyone else but when i got my zig it was fucking impossible to unscrew so i jammed a knife under the top part and got it open, but now it leaks like a bitch out of the place i stuck the knife. not because i make cuts in it but because i like... it doesnt matter just what do you use for sealing your markers? I save some of the glue out of the Zig/Leeho/Kony/whatever and smear it around the threads when I screw it back together. Let it sit for about ten or fifteen minutes and it should be sealed back to original state. Shellac does the same thing, too. Sounds like you screwed the Leeho back down too hard -- when it pops the threads are jumping. Please post the site where you found the Leehos so that the yobs can peep 'em. Be seeing you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahness Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 would a mix of leather dye and garvey work anygood? if so, what kind? i would try it but i only have a bit of it and i dont wanna fuck it up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parcheesey Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 i mix black griffin and violet garvey and it works nice, i suggest a little more garvey than griffin tho. i should be getting my hands on some violet fiebings soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 You've got the right thing. The shit is flat fucking evil. You need to dissolve it in some denatured alcohol first. Trust me, it will take a few days of shaking and cursing to get what you need. You also need to strain it out through a coffee filter or sommat before you try to add it to anything. Well its good to know I at least have the right stuff, I guess :o. You think its taking a long time because I didn't put it in Denatured Alcohol, but straight into my ink? Also what do you mean about straining it? Do you mean like after I add the Potassium to the Denatured Alc and let it sit, strain it before adding it to my ink? I'm just a little confused. Also do you reccomend the same amount as the Dye Additives (5-10g)? I save some of the glue out of the Zig/Leeho/Kony/whatever and smear it around the threads when I screw it back together. Let it sit for about ten or fifteen minutes and it should be sealed back to original state. Shellac does the same thing, too. Sounds like you screwed the Leeho back down too hard -- when it pops the threads are jumping. What a fucking great idea. I need to use my head more. Anyway I'm definitley getting more Leeho's soon because that nib is fucking sweet. I'm going to try writing to them to see if I can order some empty ones. It should'nt be too much because its only $2.89 for a full one.. Please post the site where you found the Leehos so that the yobs can peep 'em. Will do. Stamp and Go. Leeho's for $2.89 and Zigs for $4.99. Here is a pic of my bitches- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/aperone/ziG.jpg'> :king: EDIT: I realized when 60F1 quoted my paragraph, that I said I added Crystal Violet to Black Garvey, what I meant to say was Black Griffin. This mix is some bomb ass shit :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahness Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 ive never seen those leehos before...whats special about the nib? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 The size, nigga. Its perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gates Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 nice shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sneak Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/aperone/ziG.jpg'> that one on the right is a popular pen in London town... its nice ill admit, but it is a bit on the chubby side.. however, not as fat as the mop i made yesterday..to sum up: 1x bottle of shoe waterproofing cream (it has the same applicator as a kiwi mop, but the chamber is the shape of a coke can.) empty it out, rinse and dry. add ink(s). cut off a part of a sock, and secure TIGHTLY over old applicator. Duck tape works a treat. juice up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 sneak, i love those pens (if it is what i think it is)...i think they are just the right size...and if you want a well nice shoe polish mop, get a "Punch", they are fucking sexy, although i havent used the one you mentioned so i cant say which ones better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Originally posted by sneak that one on the right is a popular pen in London town... its nice ill admit, but it is a bit on the chubby side.. they must come in different sizes then, because that marker is just a bit thicker then those small bullet tip pilots. i know zigs come in different sizes, and maybe the leeho's do to, because the pic someone posted of one in the favorite marker thread looked to be bigger then mine. anyway i know 60F1 said that you can get denatured alcohol from any place that sells paint, but could i get it at like a cvs or a rite aid pharmacy type place? any euros want to get at me with some corio for some of my griffin mix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLaCkNiGGa Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 is this that "leeho" thing? http://www.stampandgo.com/eaglpen.jpg'> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphredrock Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Originally posted by BLaCkNiGGa is this that "leeho" thing? http://www.stampandgo.com/eaglpen.jpg'> pretty much brother.. i had one of those and then i lent it to this fag and the fag went to some strokes concert and got it taken.... i called you today. i guess you didn't get it.. hit me up though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Yes thats the Leeho, its the exact marker. Leeho and Sailer are not different markers. It says Sailer on the marker and Leeho on the package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gates Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 anyone know of a good glass eater other then etch?..or something that will last long on it?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destroya Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Originally posted by Gates anyone know of a good glass eater other then etch?..or something that will last long on it?! there is none, etch is the one and only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 100w's are good on glass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gates Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 damn.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUROTRIP Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 were 2 get garvey in uk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 ive never come across a shop in uk that sells garvey..i ordered a bottle from artprimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 damn kiddies.. 1 pint of alcohol desnaturalizado for 3 bucks.. "CROWN" brand.. misterart.com. now that is a bargain, no? anyway its around 500ml (four seventy-something point something..) so thats 4 full 100ml batches of liquid additive solutions. i'm about to cop some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahness Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 anyone know anything useful to do with purple RIT dye?? i was thinking of putting it in garvey, do you think it would help it? has anyone tried it? i just have a bit of garvey.. and again, i dont wanna fuck it up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeaaaah baby Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 dont use rit dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahness Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 do you think it will make a nice ink at least when mixed with water and made into a liquid? it may not be very permanent but it will stain....wont it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeaaaah baby Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 you'd be better off just dying your clothes with the dye rather than making a good ink out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 yeah, rit is shit. do not add it to garvey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthelam Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 add like a few drops of garvey 2 it and it will make a nice mop but if u only got a lil garvey dont put it in a mop or valve action marker put it in a ultra or mini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLaCkNiGGa Posted August 17, 2004 Share Posted August 17, 2004 Originally posted by blahness do you think it will make a nice ink at least when mixed with water and made into a liquid? it may not be very permanent but it will stain....wont it? you are fuckin stupid. "it may not be very permanent but it will stain" if its perm, it will stain man. and if it did stain you wouldnt be able to read it for shit.:eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gates Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Originally posted by blahness anyone know anything useful to do with purple RIT dye?? i was thinking of putting it in garvey, do you think it would help it? has anyone tried it? i just have a bit of garvey.. and again, i dont wanna fuck it up... DAMN..wtf more is there good then garvey?PLANE GARVEY just leave your ink alone..GARVEY is a killer..just leave it alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahness Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Originally posted by BLaCkNiGGa you are fuckin stupid. "it may not be very permanent but it will stain" if its perm, it will stain man. and if it did stain you wouldnt be able to read it for shit.:eek: fuck you, i didnt make my self clear i guess, by permanent i meant to say hard to buff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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