6OF1 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Originally posted by b0b Marsh is good for getting tags outisde, as it doesn't fade with the weather. I find inks like fiebings, corio and nero all fade in the elements really quite quickly. So Marsh is good if you getting so cutty tags up, that are gonna run a while. Right on. Does anyone else use Montana black marker ink? I've run through about 125ml of the stuff and it is black as coal and rather aggressive. Half and half with either Garvey or Nero makes a hella vile mix. Smells evil, though. Could b0b or someone in the UK who would be willing to do me a favour please email me? Be seeing you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brasse hed Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 i just checked and its pretty damn similar but the reason you add an ink is because that makes it stain properly. You can watch the ink spreading through the material when you blam with it so... but this shit is so good and to make it better you can add marsh,garvey or maybe even inferno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Originally posted by chumbawumba Where do you all get your violet carbon paper? :mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahh Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 what can i add to griffin to thin it? im trying to get more drips. im thinking maybe it will drip more if i used it out of the original griffin bottle and used the little mop under the lid to write with, instead of in a kiwi mop. anybody else use this? thanks. and oh yeah, fuck shoe cream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeaaaah baby Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 griffen is already really thin. if you want it to drip more just squeeze the kiwi harder when you hit up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap Posted July 22, 2004 Author Share Posted July 22, 2004 Originally posted by blahh what can i add to griffin to thin it? im trying to get more drips. im thinking maybe it will drip more if i used it out of the original griffin bottle and used the little mop under the lid to write with, instead of in a kiwi mop. anybody else use this? thanks. and oh yeah, fuck shoe cream. Denatured alcohol or rubbing alcohol. 60F1, you are the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Originally posted by chumbawumba :mad: NOBODY?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parcheesey Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 who said anything about violet carbon paper?? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Aside from the fact thats its been stated in this thread many times before that violet carbon paper + denaturated alcohol create a violet ink, 60F1 just said it in the last page: http://www.orizion.indy-solutions.com/uploader/uploaded/Post.JPG'> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parcheesey Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 oh, ive only seen blue or black, i didnt even know violet existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Yeah.. denature alcohol + violet carbon paper is supposed to be pretty sick.. sorry if that last post of mine sounded a little mean :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sneak Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Originally posted by 6OF1 Could b0b or someone in the UK who would be willing to do me a favour please email me? Be seeing you. im trying. ive tried going through the 12oz function. if that hasnt worked, drop me a line at sneaky963@hotmail.com Be hearing you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 60F1, whats your opinion on Fiebings Leather Dye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$max$ Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 oxblood and some dot 3 = mad staining power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parcheesey Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 oh yeah, i heard about oxblood or some kind of blood a while ago, also raven oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Cool. I'm in the process of gathering materials for an ink recipe I thought might work out alright. Its gonna be similar to 60F1's recipe, only I'm going to twist it a little because I can't quite obtain everything I need. Violet Carbon Paper Ink Red Sanford Ink (replacing Purple) Gentian Violet Powder Red Pilot Ink (I'm just adding this for the fuck of it) Is it safe to mix Potassium Perm with Gentian Violet? I asked Rubbish but just to make sure.. If it is I'm adding some of that. Probably a few drops of break fluid, too. I'll let you all know how it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 60F1, I saw you mentioning Malachite Green earlier. I did some ebaying and came across 2 Malachite Green auctions. One of them says: Malachite Green Hydrochloride Catalog Number: M10010050A Formula: C23H25N2Cl CAS Number: 569-64-2 Description: Crystalline Assay: 90-100% Amount: 100g DOT Classification: Non Regulated The other says: Malachite Green Oxalate Catalog Number: M10013579A Formula: C48H50N4O4.2C2H2O4 CAS Number: 2437-29-8 Description: Crystalline Assay: 90-100% Amount: 100g DOT Classification: Non Regulated Which do you reckon is the right one? I found some Fuchsin auctions, as well.. once again there are 2 different types. Here they are: Fuchsin New Catalog Number: F10072314A Formula: C22H24CIN3 CAS Number: 3248-91-7 Description: Crystalline Assay: ca. 100% Amount: 10g DOT Classification: Non Regulated ..and the other- Fuchsin Basic (Basic Fuchsin Hydrochloride) Catalog Number: F10014389A Formula: C20H19N3.HCl CAS Number: 632-99-5 Description: Crystalline Assay: ca. 100%, Certified Amount: 100g DOT Classification: Non Regulated Which one do I get? I also found auctions such as Methyl Red, Methyl Orange, and Methyl Violet. Are any of these worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nozaki Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 yeah, so i went "shopping" the other day for materials... potasium permanganate - the guy at the hardware store explained to me that it's used to clean up well water...i was questionable on how well that would work in a ink mix, so i looked around. i found this stuff that is used to dissinagrate tree stumps that has potassium nitrate in it, haha. that would probably be cool to experiment with. also i found this "cement etch" stuff that supposedly etches cement clean... meth blue - went to the pet store and a younger guy was working...explained that i needed it for a stain, and he said that the meth bue that pet stores carry is diluted and that he's never seen the crystaline consentrate in any catalogs, but knew exactly what i was talking about. i found this ultra permanent stamp pad ink at staples, it comes in a package with 2 tiny ass bottles and it's like 6 bucks...one red and one blue. mix them both together and it's a really nice additive to any mix also, i have been having issues with etch. it either never dries once i catch a tag, or if it dries you can scratch it off. i have the liquid version of it(the white bottle with the blue squares)...they have etch cream that says "permanent" on the front, but the bottle i have doesn't say permanent///does your bottle of liquid etch say permanent on the front of it? if so, i have the temporary version i guess, if that is even possible:confused: edited for confusing spelling errors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Nozaki, thats what Potas Perm is used for. Cleansing water. The Methylene Blue liquid is totally useless, as 60F1 said earlier. Also make sure you shake etch before you put it in your marker and shake it everytime you do a tag. Etch has never failed me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nozaki Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Originally posted by chumbawumba Also make sure you shake etch before you put it in your marker and shake it everytime you do a tag. Etch has never failed me.. um...haha? i'm pretty good friends with kids that use that shit, and they let jars of that shit sit on the shelf for like 4 months, and then use only the brown liguid on the top. the clay-like substance that floats to the bottom dilutes the acid, and makes it less powerfull...i could be wrong though...especially if this is some dl typoe shit...whatever though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 when i shake my etch i get the most vivid tag on the glass. i see tags that are scratched off but that never happens with mine and i always give it a good shaking before i use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOx Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 WHAT THE FUCK ok so i aquired some violet garvey and was horrified it fades..I dropped a tag three days ago and its faded dramatically to a fuken grey colour - also it doesnt stain..I have been hitting places that i know get the buff and there has been no stain whatsover to make matters worse i dropped a tag on a desk..the next day i tried to buff it and i rubbed it off with a fucken pencil eraser with EASE!!! wHAT THE FuCK??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOx Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 in other words what materials does garveyviolet stain?? It was buffed of glass and porcelain without a trace, i am still waiting for the buff results of plastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 you could have been sold bootleg garvey, its happened to me. its quite an easy ink to make. or imitate, rather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parcheesey Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 chumba whered u get ur garvey from? i recently order some from artprimo and im hoping its not fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 the artprimo shit definitley isnt fake, because the only place they could get bulk amounts is straight from the company. i got mine off ebay :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreTeenBrave Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 bucket paint i cant find any oil based paint which is the best does. anyone know what is the second best like acrylic,enamel and any others i know latex is crap though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOx Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Originally posted by chumbawumba you could have been sold bootleg garvey, its happened to me. its quite an easy ink to make. or imitate, rather. i bought it direct form the company website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 might it have gotten mixed with another ink? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Producto Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Originally posted by WhiteOx It was buffed of glass and porcelain without a trace, i am still waiting for the buff results of plastic pretty much any ink is gonna get buffed off glas easily...ink (ink that i use) is allways too thin to go on glass so its a waste...ive been told garvey stains plastic nicely... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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