Alcoholism

[HELLA LOVE IT]

well, like i said a few posts earlier, i feel like there were a lot of aspects of my life that were leading me to drinking too much. i cut some of those things out, replaced a few of them with positives, and now i'm feeling pretty good about the balance i have in my life. yeah, i still get drunk and have fun, but it's not constant, and it isn't interfering with my responsibilities as an adult. haven't drank for 3 days now. might not until monday night/tuesday (my day off)... if i do, it'll be at home, and it will be while i'm unwinding.

 

i feel pretty damn good when i'm sober, too... that's something i used to never get when i was drinking too much.

 

 

meh.

[T ReXXX]

real talk, have any of you clean heads been through this:

 

i obviously have a drinking problem but am not ready to quit drinking...

 

im not all in control of myself like i used to be when drinking.

 

any tips on gaining back that control until im ready to stop drinking?

 

honestly i dont ever see myself stopping drinking completely (sometimes i like to have a nice import or glass of wine with a meal, but will leave it at that.)

 

i really dont wanna stop drinking because of the fun i used to have when getting sloshed.....

 

and i really have the feeling i can regain that control to thw point where its all good.

 

i am drinking right now, but i hope to get some positive feedback...

 

i wont disown any comments that suggest me quiting booze.

 

i quit weed immediatly when i figured out it was a real bad problem and know i could quit booze just the same.

 

but like i said i dont wanna quit drinking yet, just get it under control.

 

i have undergone various AA classes and such with flying colors (even though court appointed).

 

just looking for some friendly advice...

 

 

As I kind of said before...for me, shit really just had to get to a point where it was bad enough where i was willing to do something different. Until that point..externally, shit could be completely falling apart...but i just wasnt ready. Its been my experience that AA is not for people that need it, or even those want it, its for people that do it. Most people die trying to get it if they are even lucky enough to get through the doors to begin with. If you are at a point where you have exhausted your other options, and still have a desire to stop drinking, I suggest going to AA and earnestly taking the suggestions of people there, as it is a matter of life and death. Get a sponsor. If you are convinced that you are a real alcoholic, then your body is different from those people who are not. I was suggested to read this also:

 

http://www.aa.org/bigbookonline/en_doctoropinion.cfm

 

 

If anybody has more questions or anything, feel free to PM me. I am willing to help.

[fat ralphy]

Thanks dudes, the thing is, im away on vacay right now, and once i get back home and kick it with my homies i know the first thing thats gonna happen is..

"yo lets go to the bar"

 

This is honestly the hardest thing to deal with in my opinion, in order to really get sober you cant kick it with folks like this. The crazy thing is that after some real time/insight i really dont miss any of my old drinking buddies. The real friends stay supporting you in your effort.

 

Twinky, in the "big book" there is a bunch of stuff about the way you are trying to change subtle things in order to gsin control. When it comes down to it, for most of us "real alcoholics" it wont matter if we only drink beer or only drink on tuesdays or just after work...the alcohol will end up controlling our behavior.

 

 

Anyway, good luck to those of you trying to drink responsibly and for all you guys with a few days, take it one day at a time....it adds up.

[Butter_Milkshake]

Word that makes sense..^^

my homies arent the type to pressure me into drinking, i was usually the one who started drinking the earliest and ended the latest.. but its so tempting to get drunk if your constantly around it. Both of my roommates are bartenders which equals free drinks, which does not really help at all either.

also

Is it sketchy to quit cold turkey? Some people say its mad dangerous, and i feel fine..i looked it up it said its kinda back you need to gradually stop. Can anyone share any experiences they've had and how they felt the first few days of being sober?

[T ReXXX]

If your able to cut down gradually...go for it...but the whole moderation thing doesnt really work for alcoholics. Thats what got us to this point to begin with. Its crazy to think that it could work this time.

 

For me, I had the shakes for a bit and I dont think I slept a full nights sleep for months. I had cold sweats and fucked up dreams. I was constantly irritable also. But..all of that subsided, and i no longer feel that way. I stopped everything all at once, including cigarettes. My first few months sober were unpleasant. But the way I felt before was significantly worse looking back on it. In hindsight, i am grateful that i felt so shitty at first, because keeping that in mind helps me not do things to feel that way again. Every shitty moment you survive, is one less that you have to face. Things get better. Im no doctor, but if you drink the way i did, im pretty sure that is far more harmful to your body than stopping could ever be.

 

..i hope that helped some.

[Butter_Milkshake]

Yeah it did..How old are you if you dont mind me asking. What the fuck is a nigga to do on a saturday night when everyone is out getting wasted and having fun? Stay home and watch tv? I feel like the most difficult part about this will be being bored and missing out on fun shit

[HELLA LOVE IT]

move somewhere that there ain't shit to do but work... stack chips... get your mind right... then move on.

[fat ralphy]

Im 30, havent drank for 4 years. Truthfully the weekends arent a blast like they used to be, but ill take the trade off. I actually get shit done now, ive saved more money then i thought possible, i was a spend my last dime on drink/drugs then steal type guy. I have done tons more with things i am passionate about, ive put out two albums collaborated with pep love, equipto etc. Bought a 2011 escape limited, got a wife, seed on the way. Expunged my crimimal records etc. These are things id never have done while drinking, so while the saturday nights arent poppin, my general life enjoyment has skyrocketed.

 

I stoPped cold turkey one day, my last drinks went like this. Got off work rolled to gogo bar solo, had 2 full pitchers, 3 whiskey doubles and a few henekins, left the bar and walked across the street to get 2 tallcans for the 40 mile DRIVE home to san francisco. A quarter of the way, i threw uP, pulled over took off my clothes and said fuck it, drove the rest of the way in my underwear. Got to SF and decided best thing to do was drink beers at the condor topless bar, drank 6 coronas jacked off on a stripper during a "private dance" then drove home, so fucked up i missed the turn to my pad and had to take a long route.

 

The next morning i was in class so hungover, feeling miserable and i realized i had to change.

A bar tab like that was a common thing for me, 30 drinks in a night, thats not normal no matter how you cut the mustard. My weight was at a high from all the beer, my relationship was fucked up.

 

 

Then when i stopped drinking things started to fix themselves.No shame in my game, thats how fucked up i used to be, i got tons of stories like that, i traded them all in for a saturday night spent painting my sons room. In all honesty life slows down, things are a little boring, but the benefits outweigh all that.

[T ReXXX]

I made it through the majority of high school and all of college sober. Id be lying if I said that I didnt spend some friday and saturday nights alone being a loser. But looking back on it, there were times that I did the same shit drunk. Just because I got sober, didnt mean that I automatically became an upstanding citizen all of a sudden. Ha. I still was pretty much the same person, except not drinking. I found plenty of ways to get into trouble which occupied a great deal of my time. Im sure there are better, more healthy solutions out there, but this just my experience. Pretty much anything was more healthy than drinking. Pick up a hobby. I have gotten fairly serious about photography in the past 5-10 years. When im bored..i grab my camera bag and a can of paint...and go for a drive.

[swif1]

Yeah it did..How old are you if you dont mind me asking. What the fuck is a nigga to do on a saturday night when everyone is out getting wasted and having fun? Stay home and watch tv? I feel like the most difficult part about this will be being bored and missing out on fun shit

 

You can still have fun while being sober. It just depends on your definition of fun. Draw, watch a movie, go to the gym. Be productive. Last night consisted of watching the documentary, Senna, with my bestie.

[Syracuse99]

this advice is helpful. I haven't drank in 2 hours. Seriously

[IRON CHEF]

IRON CHEF's USUAL RANT-

 

I CROSS ADDICTED 'DOWN" TO CHEWING TABACCO WHEN I FELT THE URGE AT IT'S BEGINNING STAGES AND THAT HELPED ALOT.

THEN ONE DAY I QUIT THAT.

I DON'T RECOMMEND CROSS-ADDICTING TO OTHER STUFF, BUT IF YOU THINK IT WILL WORK MAKE SURE IT IS SOMETHING LESS THAN WHAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO KICK, AND THAT DECISION IS TRICKY DUE TO THIS NOT BEING A FAIL-SAFE METHOD.

 

ALSO DRINKING WATER, EATING ON A REGULAR BASIS, RATHER THAN ONLY KEEPING YOUR DRINKING SCHEDULE IN TACT HELPS "FILL YOU UP".

(BEER IS NOT FOOD JUST BECAUSE IT IS MADE OF THE SAME ELEMENTS AS BREAD.) (LOL)

 

NOBODY WILL UNDERSTAND YOU, BE READY FOR THAT.

 

 

THE MORE SOBER DAYS, THE MORE YOU CAN STAND UP AND LET THE "HOMIES" KNOW =

(Here comes the Cheese) "IF YOUR'E REALLY MY FREIND, YOU'LL RESPECT NOT OFFERING ME ANYTHING THAT WILL TRIGGER MY PROBLEM."

OR EXPECT ME TO SHOW UP AND MEET YOU GUYS AT "THE BAR."

 

NOBODY I DRANK WITH HAD THE PROBLEM OF LOSING JOBS,GIRLS,CARS AND THAT BOGGLED MY MIND HOW THEY COULD DRINK, THEN STOP AND DO OTHER "RESPONSIBILITIES" THAT I MADE NO TIME FOR.

 

IT GETS TO THE POINT TO WHERE YOU JUST LOOK FOR ANY REASON TO BLAME THE DRINKING ON.

HOW ABOUT FINDING A REASON TO BLAME YOUR SOBRIETY ON, LIKE "I DID IT BECAUSE I AM STRONGER THAN THE ADDICTION" OR WHAT YOU INDIVIDUALLY COME UP WITH AS YOUR CLAME TO FAME.

 

DO NOT "ROMANTISIZE", = STOP RE-LIVING THE WAR STORIES OF THE GOOD OLD DRINKING DAYS, AND THE BRAGGING ABOUT HOW WASTED YOU WERE AND WHAT YOU STOLE/DID THAT WAS SO CRAZY, THIS DEFINATELY PULLS THE TRIGGER AND MAKES YOU SHAKE AND WANT TO 1 UP YOUR BUDDY AND OR WAR STORY, AND TO PROVE WHAT?

 

MOVE FORWARD AND LEAVE THE PAST IN THE PAST.

OBVIOUSLY KEEPING THE BAD TIMES AS A REMINDER WHERE YOU NEVER WANT TO GO BACK TO.

BUT STOP RE-LIVING AND OR SHARING THEM.

IT GETS NOBODY SOBER OR WANTING TO BE SOBER HEARING THESE HARD TIMES WE HAVE ALL CRAWLED THROUGH.

 

BELEIVE IT OR NOT GUYS, RANTING IN HERE LIKE MOST DO, IS GOOD THERAPY TOO.

IV'E BEEN SOBER AROUND 11 YEARS AND WHEN I THINK BACK, I NOTICE THAT AFTER A WHILE I FEEL LIKE I "FORGOT TO KEEP DRINKING" BECAUSE IT SEEMS EASY NOW, BUT I KNOW FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE, IT's ONLY BY 1 DAY AT A TIME WILL I CONTINUE TO STAY SOBER.

 

IN LIFE, EARNING SOMETHING ALWAYS TAKES LONGER THAN LOSING SOMETHING.

THAT's WHY THE THRILL OF GAINING MORE DAYS SOBER SHOULD BE THE TRUE WAR STORY TO BRAG ABOUT BECAUSE THIS IS PAYING DUES AGAINST THE ODDS RATHER THAN MERELY GETTING SOMETHING HANDED TO YOU RIGHT AWAY THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.

 

STOP BEING A BABY AND GROW UP, NOBODY's GOING TO PULL THE BOTTLE OUT OF YOUR HAND TO HELP YOU, BUT THERE's 10 IDIOTS TRYING TO PUT 1 IN YOUR HAND, THAT DON'T GIVE A RATS ASS ABOUT YOUR FUTURE.

 

I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, GROW UP AND STAND ON YOUR OWN 2 FEET.

THE MORE DAYS SOBER, THE CLEARER YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THIS.

 

PEOPLE THAT CAN START AND STOP ANYTIME THEY WANT WILL NOT UNDERSTAND,

AND OR CRACK JOKES AT THIS THREAD/IDEA OF SOBERING 100% UP.

WELL THAT's OUR PROBLEM, WE CAN'T DRINK 1 BEER AT DINNER,

IN FACT WHAY THE FUCK WOULD SOMEONE WANT TO WAIST THE POTENTIAL BEER-ROOM WITH FOOD ANYWAY!

OOOPS I'M STARTING TO ROMANTISIZE, AND BRAG.

THIS IS OUR PROBLEM AND KNOWING WE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT HELPS THOSE WITH 11 MINUTES SOBER, 11 DAYS SOBER, 11 MONTHS SOBER, AND ME WHICH I HAVE BEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO REACH 11 YEARS SOBER, AND GUESS WHAT?

 

TODAY I AM STILL ONLY WORRYING ABOUT NOT DRINKING IN THIS 24 HR. PERIOD AND WILL CONTINUE THIS ATTITUDE FOREVER.

BECAUSE I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO LOOK AT ANYTHING PAST 1 DAY IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THATS WHEN I START TO SHAKE AND GET SCARED.

 

WER'E ALL THE SAME, STOP FEELING SORRY FOR YOURSELF.

THE MORE TIME SOBER WILL ALSO HELP WITH HOW SENSATIVE WE ARE TO WHAT OTHERS SAY/DO.

 

DO NOT TRY AND SOBER UP FOR A DAMNED GIRLFREIND BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO BE CAPTAIN AND KEEP THE PUSSY BECAUSE SHE's THREATNING TO LEAVE YOUR ASS, IF SHE DOES THAT, MOST LIKELY SHE DOES NOT POSSES THE SKILLS TO REALLY HELP YOU.

BUY PORN/BEAT-OFF AND FORGET THE HOE.

 

I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THAT LAUGH, EVEN THOUGH IT's TRUE.

 

PEACE-

[Smacky636]

TODAY I AM STILL ONLY WORRYING ABOUT NOT DRINKING IN THIS 24 HR. PERIOD AND WILL CONTINUE THIS ATTITUDE FOREVER.

BECAUSE I WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO LOOK AT ANYTHING PAST 1 DAY IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THATS WHEN I START TO SHAKE AND GET SCARED.

 

this

 

I checked myself into the ER for alcohol abuse and observation, just recently. I made it through the 1st night stay at the hospital i was checked in and was sent up to the floor for monitoring. A doctor came by and said i was 100% physically healthy. I left the hospial only to make it 4days until i relapsed.

 

What do you guys do to help a racing mind besides goto the liquor store. i have too much free time on my hands. the anxiety and stomach pains gets so unbearable that alcohol, seems to be the only thing to calm down my mind and it helps with the stomach pains. The doctors prescribed Reglan for the stomach pains but it doesn't always work.

 

For all you cats, how do u make past the physical pain and deal with the psychological once you've gone thru detox

 

been about 50hrs since my last drink.

[Smacky636]

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordfish meatloaf (View Original Post)

 

 

had an EXTRA terrible night last night/this morning guys. been awake since yesterday morning at 5am. cant really explain everything but there was crack and a black woman.

 

i feel so disgusted with myself right now. i think ive finally come to the conclusion that i need to see a therapist, psychologist or go into inpatient rehab or else im going to end up dead or in prison.

 

i just want to curl up into a ball and die... or at least nap.

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Smacky021 (View Original Post)

 

 

i feel your pain. i had a seizure at work, mainly due to alcohol abuse. lucky me i guess since i work at a hospital. my reoccuring habit is leave work sunday night, go home drink, wake up monday and continue until i passout. tuesday, drink. wednesday drink then withdrawl thursday drink to help with the anxiety and stomach pain. try and make it thru friday with as little alcohol as possible. work a double sat, in pain throughout the entire shift, sometimes puking. get off of work and drink to help me fall asleep.

 

this is my cycle. i've tried to squash but in the past it was a physical/psycholocial addiction problem. once i get past the physical part is what i need to work on. this my selfdestructive cycle. I've been able to label what needs to be done

 

if you think you need to talk to a therapist, you probably do. it's up to you to get there, thou. it's up to you to suck it up and ask for help. it took a seizure at work for me to realize i needed help but relapsed after the seizure and then again after i checked myself in for a detox and monitoring.

 

thankfully my gf has been by my side through all of this and she wants to be a part of my life.

 

i relapsed again and now i'm going on day 3, i made it through the physical part, which in alcoholics and benzo pt.'s are the worst.

 

I feel your pain but check-in to detox and some monitoring. the facility you goto should be able to give you outpatient places to go. also, goto the alcoholism thread, fat ralphy & others are there for others who are looking for help.

 

pm me dude

 

 

 

 

thought this would be an easier way in explaining where i am.

 

3 Days Down, cant wait til i can say "1 Week"

[Inappropriate_Responder]

foreal, i took advice from my girl and from here. just say to your self when you wake up.

 

I AM NOT DRINKING TODAY.

 

that's been my saving grace. i fucked up and drank on Saturday, chalked it up to the "weekend".

 

haven't drank since. tomorrow will be hard, but I'm ready.

[IRON CHEF]

STOP LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING "1 WEEK" SOBER, INSTEAD CELEBRATE DAY BY DAY.

ALL THESE LITTLE BATTLES WILL ALL ADD UP TO THE “WAR” IF YOU STAY WITH IT.

 

BELEIVE IT OR NOT, SOME OF THE PHYSICAL PAIN IS MENTAL.

 

WE NEED TO FIND SOMETHING POSITIVE TO USE OUR "THINKING" TIME FOR, SUCH AS LEARNING MORE ABOUT YOUR CURRENT JOB AND GETTING REAL GOOD AT IT.

 

MANY POSITIVE THINGS WILL COME FROM THIS OTHER THAN GETTING PROMOTED AND PAY RAISES.

GET MORE SKILLED AT THAT COMPETITIVE HOBBY YOUR JUST "ALRIGHT" AT.

 

YOU WILL "FORGET TO DRINK" AS I STATED ABOVE.

 

GIVE YOURSELF A CHANCE TO SUCCEED AND LIVE THE LIFE YOU SHOULD BE INSTEAD OF THINKING OF WHAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY DOING WRONG, WHICH IS LIKE WALKING THROUGH THE MUD AND SAYING YOU'LL STAY CLEAN.

 

WALK AROUND THE MUD BY USING YOUR "THINKING TIME" ON SOMETHING POSITIVE.

 

BUT FIRST YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE “MUD” AS BEING ALL THE TRIGGERS TO YOU GOING TO GET THAT BOTTLE = “FRIENDS” , ARGUMENTS,TRAFFIC TICKET, THINGS AS ODD AS GETTING A FLAT TIRE AND NOT BEING PREPARED WILL PISS YOU OFF MAKING YOU WANT TO GIVE UP AND TAKE THE EASY ROUTE, WHICH IS,,,,,,,,,,,,,I WON’T SAY THE REST.

 

ADD ALL YOUR CURRENT PROBLEMS UP, WRITE THEM DOWN, THEN RE-WRITE THEM IN ORDER OF IMPORTANCE TO YOU, THEN TAKE THEM 1 BY 1 IN ORDER AND DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE NEXT ON IN LINE UNTIL THE FIRST ONE IS ACCOMPLISHED AND THERE IS NO TIME SCHEDULE THAT ANY OF THESE HAVE TO HAPPEN TO CALL YOURSELF A FAILURE.

[Smacky636]

i hear ya CHEF, thing is that i got my list and i think the issue here is that my job market sucks so i never got my certification. that time lapses next year in August. so my 'thinking' time will be to crack open all my old books and study and pay so i can sit for my boards.

 

i was blinded when i was finishing school and was in denial about drinking and that formed a negative rebound effect which led to this cycle i am trying to break. the past 2 years revloved around alcohol and denial.

 

i am no longer in denial and i'm taking the appropriate steps on getting help. I do believe that the mental anguish helped fuel some of the physical pain.

[swordfish meatloaf]

what the fuck happened to the drug addicted thread???

[Newer Bigger Better]

NO DRUG TALK

[swordfish meatloaf]

fuck outta here thats ridiculous that thread helped alot of people out. GHEY.

[Newer Bigger Better]

I dunno if that's what really happened. My guess is symbols got rid of it... She does that.

[12packprophet]

Isn't this also a drug talk thread?

[swordfish meatloaf]

right?? this completely goes against the idea that alcohol CAN BE a much more dangerous DRUG for not just an individual but anyone in their presence.

 

i hope someone sends symbols my obituary notice when i relapse & od from lack of positive reinforcement the "drug addicted" thread provided.

:mad: or :lol:

???

[Newer Bigger Better]

Well alcohol is a stimulant, much like crystal meth.

[12packprophet]

i hope someone sends symbols my obituary notice when i relapse & od from lack of positive reinforcement the "drug addicted" thread provided.

:mad: or :lol:

???

 

If you need a Ch0 thread to keep you from stabbing needles in your arm, then you're doing it wrong.

[swordfish meatloaf]

just jokes snapperhead

[mackfatsoe]

so the drug thread was deleted? stupid

[Brickos]

[Smacky636]

Well alcohol is a stimulant, much like crystal meth.

 

alcohol, is a depressant. i hope u were being sarcastic...:rolleyes:

[Newer Bigger Better]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha... no one else saw that?

 

Awesome