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been off that dope bout 8yrs,... just got paid mondo $ from paramont pictures to teach a actress how to bang... hahaha ho see the new robert zemekis film "Flight" next year!!!

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been off that dope bout 8yrs,... just got paid mondo $ from paramont pictures to teach a actress how to bang... hahaha ho see the new robert zemekis film "Flight" next year!!!

LET's TAKE A COMMERCIAL BREAK FROM THE THREAD TOPIC FOR A MINUTE HERE:

 

EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THE, "HOW TO BANG" PART.

 

PORN?

 

PICTURES?

 

PROOF?

 

ACTRESS NAME?

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yes, 'splain.

 

also alcoholism sucks. i can go about 2 days. i wish i could drive somewhere and not have to wonder where I'm staying because there is no way i can drive home.

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Oh, and how does the saying go "Ours is a program of attraction not promotion".

 

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i only talk about the program with folks who express a desire to quit or talk about their problems with drinking....

 

12 step discussion in a forum setting makes it a bit difficult considering that everyone can read a post....but I try and use the guideline that I should only speak from experience and what has worked for me.

 

attraction vs. promotion is a fine line......the big book goes into it quite a bit.

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read up on the last 10 or 15 pages of this thread...

 

there are a bunch of us on here that have stopped or are trying to.

 

honestly there are many ways to get sober, i guess that depends on you. the structure of AA helped me....i went from a 12 pack a day on weekdays and 20-30 drinks on a saturday to not having had a drink in 4 years.

 

if the shit gets bad enough you will find a way to quit if you want to.

 

hopefully you are not trolling, but if you are serious take a look at this thread and if you have any questions about AA feel free to shoot me a pm. or any of the other guys in here, we mostly been helping each other out.

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manute, you can holler at me on some serious shit if you want homeboy. i'm not some sobriety vet or anything, but i'm an asshole with a similarly fucked up outlook who is slowly but surely getting things straightened out.

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checked out of genesis after about 36 hours. It is EXACTLY like mke county jail in there. you just sit for hours and hours on end. Most people there are from intake at county or are court ordered. Homeless crackheads and psychos, drooling catatonic mentally ill folks... I just couldnt take it psychologically. If I had been given methadone or buprenorphine, I probably coulda stuck it out. But lets be honest, you cant cure sickness without an opiate. I was given clonazepam, vistaril and immodium every five hours or so, but ive had better results with gabapentin (neurontin) and tylenol, maybe some trazadone for sleep/RLS at home. It was no place for a VOLUNTARY addict to get well. Maybe I just am not strong enough mentally for that setting,.but I fucking hate jail and thats precisely the way this establishment is operated, being funded by milwaukee county and primarily intended to detox prisoners before intake/transportation to prison. Fuck that jack, I can be sick at home and with no money and stay away from bad influences just as easy out here.. Plus I have a television and carnation hot cocoa packets at home. The food there was slop on a greasy tray, and smoking was no longer permitted, just another reminder that the funding for programs like these has been so significantly decreased that soon they will no longer exist.

 

So for now, my plan is rest until I get well enough to attend a group. Stay up and stay SOBER folks. Please disregard grammatical errors, these android phones apparently were not intended for this level of intrawebz...

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Swordfish you're full of fucking excuses it's getting fucking old.

 

I know I'm not sober anymore, but I don't make excuses about it.

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what excuses? im simply relaying my experiences/struggles. ive been drug/alcohol free since 2pm tuesday.. how about you?? I am having a difficult time with this, as are others in this thread. I may not know how to do this BUT I AM FUCKING TRYING. who are you to judge homeboy?

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Yeah, let's keep the judgments out of this thread. Swords is working on doing some of the toughest shit in this thread. So either support him or ignore him especially if you are no longer sober.

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what excuses? im simply relaying my experiences/struggles. ive been drug/alcohol free since 2pm tuesday.. how about you?? I am having a difficult time with this, as are others in this thread. I may not know how to do this BUT I AM FUCKING TRYING. who are you to judge homeboy?

 

I've been sober since Sunday. So I guess you can say I've been sober, but not really by choice. and excuses like "OMG THIS REHAB ISN'T FOR ME YADA YADA". Suck it the fuck up if you really wanna get sober. You will go through anything if you really want it.

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Yeah, let's keep the judgments out of this thread. Swords is working on doing some of the toughest shit in this thread. So either support him or ignore him especially if you are no longer sober.

 

And who says he's doing the toughest shit? It's a matter of opinion and experience. Not longevity and use of a drug.

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Considering he is the only person in this thread trying to kick a heroin habit (??), I say he is doing some of the toughest shit being discussed. Just put him on ignore instead of trying to call him out and talk shit.

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one: not trying to make it seem like my struggle is any more difficult than any other person in this thread, but heroin withdrawal, IMO, some of the most difficult shit one could ever go through. call it "excuses".. shit ive made alot of them.. I AM AN ADDICT.

 

two: you would fucking check yourself out of that place too... I GUARANTEE IT. ever been to jail homie? and lets not forget I admitted myself. I am trying. I am currently free of all toxins. thats the biggest step ive taken in years. step the fuck off with that judgemental garbage.

 

everyone else stay up... ill quote "thedoc".. this shit is a rollercoaster....

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Also trying to kick a dope habit. Swords checking himself out of that place is not an excuse at all, a place reminiscent of jail is NOT somewhere you wanna be when you're dope sick. Good luck to everyone in this thread.

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immaturity is one thing that translates just fine over the web.

 

still got you, sword. get to a motherfucking meeting. those folks will make you feel alright about yourself...

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the one thing this thread is not, is a place to pass judgements on others

 

if you aren't speaking on your own issue, or you are not constructively trying to help someone else out....than why bother.

 

my boy just started to secretary a meeting at a homeless shelter in SJ, yesterday was his first meeting....good thing I went to support the homey because it was me him and one other dude. smallest meeting i have ever been to, gave everyone a chance to speak for awhile which was cool. i got something out of it....still havent been to a meeting that i feel was a waste of my time, but i go in with open ears and mind.

 

keep on keeping on bros.

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I haven't posted in a while, but I hope that's a good thing, right? Haha. I've been reading it daily though so for those who are trying, I hope and wish everyone the best. Mind over matter. It sucks I have to spread my props around before propping most of you again.

 

Oh, yeah. I just got my blood work done in late October so I will find out how my liver has been doing on my next visit later this month if anybody cares.

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Cosigned Ralphy, the only criticisms that should be taking place are positive ones. If you are not giving advice, or simply identifying with others, then why bother? (Most) people in this thread are going through an array of problems, some perceivably worse than others but I, along with any other member have no right to judge the way we cope/struggle with our addictions. I consider this kind of behavior to be immature, childish and just plain disrespectful and as such, I will no longer address it. Lets keep it POSI ladies & gentlemen.

 

POZ, tomorrow (tonight) I will be attending the Milwaukee Group on Center & Weil, and quite possibly an ALANO meeting with my moms by her crib. The eastside has a handful of groups in relatively close proximity to one another, making it easy to find at least one and attend multiple times weekly. I do prefer the Center street group though because it is closer to the crib, caters more to young adults and I have been there several times before. Its kind of a rugged building and im general seems a little more comfortable to me given my anxiety around folks with whom i am unfamiliar. Ill report my experience immediately post-group.

 

I remember leaving these groups feeling a great sense of accomplishment and general wellbeing. That is a (natural) feeling that I have been longing for since my last time kicking last october/november. I managed to stay clean until my fiancee got locked in june. I am confident I can do this because ive done it before, and confidence in this matter seems extremely important to me, especially in a time where I feel I have NONE.

 

Natural happiness here I come! I wont expect it immediately, but certainly forsee it in my future and god (higher power, self, object)-willing every last one of you too! Good luck to everyone as always stay up and stay SOBER.

 

P.S. - Kaashnikov, holler if you want to catch a group this weekend and go paint afterwards!

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TRY AND HIT 1 MEETING EVERYDAY AT FIRST IF THAT IS POSSIBLE....ITS ONLY AN HOUR A DAY AND IT USUALLY HELP YOU KEEP YOUR HEAD IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

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