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busted peices

Discussion in 'Metal Heads' started by taper, Oct 25, 2001.

  1. taper

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    busted peices

    Discussion started by taper - Oct 25, 2001

    how many of you go out and come back sayin "man i realy could have painted that better" or i" wish i'd done that." or i wish i hadnt painted that. i am trying to put in as much quality work right now at the beginning or my career. so to speak. i get pissed when shit comes out not so great. i judge my work on if i saw that would i flick it? so basically is a quality or a quanity thing? and out of haow many pieces you paint how many are you ACTUALLY happy with. ;)
     
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  2. seeking

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    seeking - Replied Oct 25, 2001

    there seems to be a whole different level of 'quality' when it comes to trains. somehow, 'sloppy' and 'badly rendered' are in this year... who knew....
     
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    Vanity - Replied Oct 25, 2001

    all my shit is busted... fuck it.
     
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    CATS - Replied Oct 25, 2001

    You have to see it as a learning curve, if you find a flaw, thats actually a good thing, then you can concentrate on your weak points. Dont be so hard on yourself, just remember that the more you do it the easier it gets.:king:
     
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    sectorTVA - Replied Oct 25, 2001

    i consider myself over critical of my own work...i think its horrid and terrible...its definnately better than extremely toy shit, but cant hang with experienced writers...i learn a little something new about painting everytime i go though, so i guess i could say im developing....
     
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    visualJAZZ - Replied Oct 25, 2001

    i'm always saying this, last time i went out it was misting so one car ran really bad, i tried to do a simple, but didnt work with the krylon white and black. ran really bad. so i moved to the next car in the line and did something that turned out really nice that i think was one of my best freights. then i tried to get really big runs on an outline around a handstyle, son of a bitch it didnt work. i was using reddevil paint on that part. nice baby blue that stood out great on the dark blue car. but it wouldnt run. i guess its not my fault though. i tried.
     
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    For a long period I viewed freights as an improvisational thing - freestyle away, and send it out there, some came off, some didn't. A closer examination of the flicks revealed that the vast majority of my freestyles were busted, some of them big-time, so I changed my attack plan. My goal became to take the piece that worked the best and do a hundred (or more) essentially the same way, with minor alterations (colors, size, characters, but the same letters). I figured I'd increase recognition and pay some "quantity" dues while coming up with better blackbook ideas.
    Now I have two problems: I slacked on the blackbook work, and the few things I've sketched are as busted as the old shit. And furthermore, the piece I did a hundred times isn't that hot to begin with. It doesn't compete with the level of quality that I see being done by my favorite writers. So this whole year has been one big procrastination session.
    I have the freight knowledge and applications down to a science, but all that means is that I've been putting out a lot of mediocre work on cars that get good play.
    I've gotten mixed reviews on my style - surprisingly positive feedback by some longtime heads I respect, and the more predictable hate from a few directions. Overall I think it's more productive to be as hard on myself as the haters, but I'm having a hard time coming up with new material.
     
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    mopius - Replied Oct 25, 2001

    some call it sloppy
    some call it wack
    some call it toy
    and some like it, so what can you do??
    someone will not like it no matter what
    i just try to think, if something i did just came out bad, that i will improve what i did wrong next time...that to me is one of the biggest things about graff, you always are improving
     
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    taper - Replied Oct 26, 2001

    yea thats what i think. onorok sucked in 98 i actually think from the pieces ive seen that now my shit i put out can hang and possibly even better. it amazing how far hes come in such a short period. hes amazing now and that is proof that practice makes perfect. well i guess he didnt suck just not how he is now i take that back. keep the info coming
     
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    raildeviant - Replied Oct 26, 2001

    Its all about the good with the bad. I think anyone who creates is their own worst critic, so it is to be expected that 99% of one's work will appear busted to them, even if the majority of the viewing public thinks it looks great. I know the first thing I notice when I get flicks back of my work are the mistakes....beyond that, I have a hard time finding anything good in them since my mind has already been corrupted by that one little flaw or mistake. I have literally laughed off tons of my own "good" burners simply because I cannot see beyond the fuckups...but I also don't sweat it too much these days because I'm always striving for that perfect burner, and I know that along the way, I will put in some work that will be acceptable to me. It's odd that sometimes I will spend 10 minutes on a dub-style and love it, then spend 2 hours on a piece and think its wack....all in the eye of the beholder......

    As someone mentioned, its a learning curve. While trucking along, we all produce a lot of weak work, but we learn from it and manage to pull off some goodies from time to time. No right or wrong answer.
    It does seem that busted burners are more the fashion on trains these days (why, I don't understand)...I guess that allows a lot of bullshit to be seen. What it all boils down to is mixing it up, keeping it going and facing the fact that everything you do is gonna suck in some way or another....once you get over that, the ride is a lot easier.
     
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    taper - Replied Oct 26, 2001

    yea i see what your saying. i think that time makes things change alot whaen it comes to graff. even tho i think most of us pride ourselves in living a "underground" sort of lifstyle shelterd from the real world we still being human in nature have so called trands. i noticed the sloppy pieces and i am sort of confused and i realize it could be a result of a numerous amot of things rangig from a diffrent approach to the "in thing to do". fr8s are in my opinion way diffrent than any other relam of painting. it what other way can you get away with so much and still be totally respected for it? like slop in the thousands or say 100 clean burners or just 4000 bombs? when being viewd from the highwys of america the fr8 will take on a diffrent mood or look. it really boils down to personality and choice like it has been said. i'm not really gonna worry about it and concentrate more on just relaxing and letting it come natural and trying my hardest to produce what i am happy with because after all it is a form of self expression. pieces come alive and even a partly filled mber on onorok piece is still a treat. so maybe it is how we all view it. or maybe slop is overlooked if you are a fr8 king......................;)
     
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    Sorc bcj - Replied Oct 26, 2001

    the day i do a piece i'm completely satisfied with i will stop painting.
     
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    Average White Railfan - Replied Oct 26, 2001

    its funny, i always have these big plans about painting. what colors im gonna do what letters im gonna do what im gonna write next to my piece but when i get there my mind goes blank. i dont drink or smoke b4 i paint so i guess its just the intoxication of being there. im just so glad to be there and be able to get out unharmed i usually dont care what it looks like....well sometimes i try to concintrate and keep shit from dripping but like rd said man you gotta take the good with the bad. everybody has dirt still runnin...i dont care how fresh the guy is now.as long as my "nom de' plume" is runnin/weather its a streak or a piece im satistfied. im always greatful when people waste a flik on one of my pieces, but if they dont i understand...as long as its runnin and i have the flik i guess
     
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    Cup 'O Soup - Replied Oct 26, 2001

    emmHmm...testify...rock own with yo bag seff>>>i agree

    Nothing beats sitting around listening to a bunch of writers talk about their sob stories.
    If your not happy, do something else.
     
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    i think david lee roth said it best with: 'they can't all be californian'. if you don't get it i'm not gonna explain it.
     
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