Mercer Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) I'm exploiting every avenue I can to profit without actually harming others. I'd expect nothing less from my employers, my subordinates, my associates, and my competitors. I exploit my expertise in electrical engineering to earn certifications, then I exploit said certifications while negotiating my salary to earn better money. I exploit my looks, social skills & status, and my ability to earn enough money my wife won't ever need to work again a day in her life when I was choosing between potential partners. I exploit the materiel goods, and knowledge passed down to me by my ancestors, and hope some day to pass them on to someone else who will exploit them to their maximum potential. Even the word exploit itself, is exploited by people who wish to sew hatred for those with more than them. They exploit the massive flaws in the English language that allows for multiple definition of words. Exploit could mean simply making use of something you have access to, or it could mean taking an unfair advantage of others. I don't think Elon does the latter, everyone working for him chooses to do so because it's their best option. If not, they'd work someplace else. Everyone buying goods and services he provides does so because he's offering them the best deal possible. He does indeed exploit, but in a non-destructive, net beneficial way that I personally admire. There are so many excellent targets for my hatred, that actually deserve it. I just prefer cold and calculated, with an end goal. over whimsy and emotion. Hoping others, that in reality benefit me by virtue of free exchange will fail, knowing it's overall harmful results that will indirectly leave me with less options. Edited July 11, 2023 by Mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 8 hours ago, KILZ FILLZ said: @Merceri could be wrong but I think a lot of people already had a bad taste in their mouth before he bought twitter to open it up (re: your first sentence). Pretty sure he was getting hate before injecting himself into political discourse ? edit - yeah I know he was now that I am remembering the lolz people had at his failed cybertruck demo when he broke the unbreakable window on stage. I do not doubt there were always haters from day one, my point is that their hate is illegitimate and simply emotionally based. No one has provided any legitimate reason for it. Yet there are people out there actually harming others that get their thin blue line flag flown and respect. It's pure foolishness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILZ FILLZ Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 15 hours ago, Mercer said: I do not doubt there were always haters from day one, my point is that their hate is illegitimate and simply emotionally based. No one has provided any legitimate reason for it. Yet there are people out there actually harming others that get their thin blue line flag flown and respect. It's pure foolishness. Elon has a huge online presence and from what I see, he uses a lot of it to be a troll and fuck with people. He leans into being a “heel” and with that comes the heat and the haters. Bringing that bathroom sink into Twitter HQ day 1 and saying “let that sink in” isn’t gonna win anyone over. It’s the same type of thing you’d seen in a bad pro wrestling promo I believe it’s intentional a la “no bad press”. He’s bringing hate on himself on purpose to drive numbers and a lot of people are unwilling or unable to recognize it’s theatrics. This whole back and forth with Zuckerberg really reeks of performance. Challenge a rival to a cage match only to have your mother cancel it? Hilarious and coordinated. I think it’s all pretty funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Sure, we can argue the semantics of language to discredit a valid opinion on the existence of shitty people, or we could recognize that those nice Dutch folks in South Africa didnt make their fortune digging emeralds out of the ground with their own hands and there is a very good chance that indeed the local indigenous Africans were exploited in the process. Let's also not forget that apartheid was in full effect during this time period. I'd like to say that not everyone is a carbon copy of their parents but "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree" and the undying words of Ugly Kid Joe "It's a serious disease that you learn about in school. And if your dad's an alcoholic, you'll be one, too," are both sayings for a reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUGR Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 I just want a dang Cyber truck already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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grim540 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) Wondering if the topic of interview was over the finer points of the Great Replacement Theory, or the best ways to run a international sex trafficking wing without getting busted. Edited July 12, 2023 by grim540 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LUGR Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 On 7/11/2023 at 6:18 PM, ndv said: OMFG bout time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LUGR Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 3 hours ago, KILZ FILLZ said: Tesla Roadster when Tesla spaceship when?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mercer Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 It's weird nobody on the hating tip is up on Neuralink. Out of all the reasons to hate, it seems the most relevant to me. On one hand, the tech he's been able to bring to market, like online payments, electric cars, solar/battery, and commercial spaceship/satellite services has not only been been profitable, it's beneficial to the top tier of humanity that can afford it. Neuralink seems like it's a 50/50 chance of being an absolute threat/benefit, most likely it will be both. Terrifying that one day you'll need one of these chips to stay competitive, and instead of you just controlling electronics with it, it could go the other way around, and you could be controlled, and spied on by it. I mean we all know our phones are spying on us, etc. but who's going to rock a flip phone. These chips will be the same way, but higher stakes. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILZ FILLZ Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Im surprised the religious right/Qanon right haven’t started dragging him for that @Mercerseems like an easy lay-up for “mark of the beast” heads. —— Yesterday my buddy finally got his burned hair cologne he paid for like a year or two ago. I wouldn’t call him a musk fanboy, but he does own a Tesla, and falls for these dumb gimmicks… I I think he got the cybertruck bottle opener too. So anyways. His cologne finally arrived yesterday after a good year of supply delays… but it was broken from the factory lol. He said the shipping box was not damaged but when he opened the cologne box the bottle leaked everywhere. Check out the design on this bad boy, that font straight from MS Word and looks like they bought some surplus Casio watch boxes? no idea of this is an isolated incidient of his bad luck or others have had the same. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndv Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 I would like to think the business proposal had already taken place some time ago, and possibly trump may have wanted too much, but if it hasn't happened. If twitter is in a financial hole, why doesn't Twitter allow trump back on there. I sure it will boost the traffic which will cause advertising to increase...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUGR Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/19/2023 at 10:34 AM, KILZ FILLZ said: Im surprised the religious right/Qanon right haven’t started dragging him for that @Mercerseems like an easy lay-up for “mark of the beast” heads. —— Yesterday my buddy finally got his burned hair cologne he paid for like a year or two ago. I wouldn’t call him a musk fanboy, but he does own a Tesla, and falls for these dumb gimmicks… I I think he got the cybertruck bottle opener too. So anyways. His cologne finally arrived yesterday after a good year of supply delays… but it was broken from the factory lol. He said the shipping box was not damaged but when he opened the cologne box the bottle leaked everywhere. Check out the design on this bad boy, that font straight from MS Word and looks like they bought some surplus Casio watch boxes? no idea of this is an isolated incidient of his bad luck or others have had the same. How does it smell? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim540 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, ndv said: I would like to think the business proposal had already taken place some time ago, and possibly trump may have wanted too much, but if it hasn't happened. If twitter is in a financial hole, why doesn't Twitter allow trump back on there. I sure it will boost the traffic which will cause advertising to increase...? He is allowed back. The speculation is that he has some contractual obligation to only use Truth Social for an amount of time because it's his social media platform. That and Elon jumping on the Desantis 2024 train will probably keep him away. Edited July 23, 2023 by grim540 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Delle Donne Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 On 7/7/2023 at 11:24 PM, Mercer said: No, I've never heard of it. Care to explain? I just see a certain type of person that becomes emotionally invested in hating billionaires. You can never get a straight answer as to why, it's always something vague, but never a legit reason, or something that negatively effects their own life. I suspect it's just to fit in, form social bonds with others who hate, and conform to a social norm, but that doesn't explain the strong emotions these people feel. oh dude you'd (personally, i think) find lots of reasons to dislike elon. - built his empire on state and federal tax credits for EVs - is insecure and a phony. didn't co-found paypal but when x.com merged with confinity his terms stated that he would be referred to as a "co-founder." this also happened at tesla, which he also did not co-found but also sought (and got) title of "co-founder" as part of the agreement that made him CEO - tesla is now too big to fail. its valuation is so much of the nasdaq, and its shares so thoroughly distributed in index funds and etfs, that even though they make terrible cars that kill people they will not be allowed to fail. - he renamed twitter to x just because he never got x.com off the ground and thinks the letter x is cool. some people have really beautiful, inspirational life work. elon musk just wants to be "co-founder" of something named x and have it be successful. he's 0-2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim540 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Or it could be the coddling of people who post child porn. 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted July 30, 2023 Author Share Posted July 30, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Elena Delle Donne said: oh dude you'd (personally, i think) find lots of reasons to dislike elon. - built his empire on state and federal tax credits for EVs - is insecure and a phony. didn't co-found paypal but when x.com merged with confinity his terms stated that he would be referred to as a "co-founder." this also happened at tesla, which he also did not co-found but also sought (and got) title of "co-founder" as part of the agreement that made him CEO - tesla is now too big to fail. its valuation is so much of the nasdaq, and its shares so thoroughly distributed in index funds and etfs, that even though they make terrible cars that kill people they will not be allowed to fail. - he renamed twitter to x just because he never got x.com off the ground and thinks the letter x is cool. some people have really beautiful, inspirational life work. elon musk just wants to be "co-founder" of something named x and have it be successful. he's 0-2. You'd be surprised to know this, but although I hate the process of taxes being seized, and redistributed to those favored by the government, I don't fault the recipients of those redistributions. It would be hypocritical of me, or anyone to have that position. I use roads, I cash tax refund checks, and those pandemic relief checks even though I was caking the entire time. If I felt like I could get away with it, I'd be on food stamps and welfare right now. I'm actively fighting against my State government against my own interests as an EV owner right now. They want to take money away from working/middle class tax payers, and redistribute that to well off EV owners just for owning EV's. Most of the time these EV's are 2nd/3rd vehicles unlike normal cars where a person will own one. In my opinion this is more egregious than taking money from the working class people, to give to college graduates who generally make more to cover their loans. Regardless of my opinion on net tax recipients, him, and Peter Thiel built both of their empires on PayPal to begin with. So characterizing Musk as a welfare queen who wouldn't have built massive generational wealth if not for government isn't accurate IMO. He was in the hundreds of millions before Tesla. Also, being able to build a one of EV is easy. I could do it right now and have considered doing so myself. Setting up the supply chain to be able to mass manufacture EV's is a whole other story. Granted, Elon didn't invent the EV, which have been around for over a century, but you have to give credit where credit is due, nobody else was able to bring them to the mass market. Most manufacturers are still struggling to have even a small number produced. People tend to discount the contributions of the entrepreneurs and focus simply the workers, but without the entrepreneur who is risking their own capitol in a roll of the dice to set up something like a new automobile company against all odds and an established cartel (which hasn't happened in a century as well), and setting up supply chains at the steering wheel there's no jobs for the engineers, inventors, and workers that most people can wrap their heads around and appreciate. Edited July 30, 2023 by Mercer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted July 30, 2023 Author Share Posted July 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, grim540 said: Or it could be the coddling of people who post child porn. 🤷♂️ Haven't heard this one, care to elaborate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim540 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 (edited) https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/07/27/twitter-csam-dom-lucre-elon-musk/ Edited July 30, 2023 by grim540 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim540 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 and he's reinstating Kayne as well lol just a matter of time... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted July 30, 2023 Author Share Posted July 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, grim540 said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/07/27/twitter-csam-dom-lucre-elon-musk/ I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the incident involved an outrage farming post made by a right wing anti-child abuse account where the child in the image was obscured/blurred out to prevent CP wankers. People who are made dishonest/disingenuous by their very obvious team bias tried flipping it the same way you are now, ignoring the obscuration, and context of the post and pretending it was a child porn account. Edited July 30, 2023 by Mercer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim540 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 (edited) its cool that you glossed over the whole "zero tolerance for posting cp regardless of context" part. 14 minutes ago, Mercer said: very obvious team bias tried flipping it the same way you are now, ignoring the obscuration between this and the " low testosterone emotional value" people dunk on twitter comment (lol whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean) I'm beginning to wonder if there's a fellow oonzter in this screen shot. Edited July 30, 2023 by grim540 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted July 30, 2023 Author Share Posted July 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, grim540 said: its cool that you glossed over the whole "zero tolerance for posting cp regardless of context" part. between this and the " low testosterone emotional value" people dunk on twitter comment (lol whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean) I'm beginning to wonder if there's a fellow oonzter in this screen shot. I couldn't fit that into my screenshot of evidence to support my own point, that you're intentionally mischaracterizing Elon Musk as a supporter of child porn. I mean to be fair, and to your point, I personally hate conservatives who post outrage shit like that, especially the dead fetuses and shit. I'd probably ban them if it were up to me, not because I think "they must support abortions if they post a photo of one" it's just disturbing and kinda gross. Not the type of shit I'd like to see, kinda like the dishonest shit that belongs on a site like Reddit, not 12oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILZ FILLZ Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 10:35 AM, LUGR said: How does it smell? I haven’t smelled it myself, but he said vaguely like singed hair but mostly like generic cologne smell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUGR Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 7 hours ago, KILZ FILLZ said: I haven’t smelled it myself, but he said vaguely like singed hair but mostly like generic cologne smell That doesn’t sound like a perfume I would want to wear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Delle Donne Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 7/30/2023 at 9:02 AM, Mercer said: Regardless of my opinion on net tax recipients, him, and Peter Thiel built both of their empires on PayPal to begin with. So characterizing Musk as a welfare queen who wouldn't have built massive generational wealth if not for government isn't accurate IMO. He was in the hundreds of millions before Tesla. right but without government subsidies and selling EV credits tesla never would have worked. even with all that capital it came close to failing several times. they made more selling regulatory credits than cars until 2021. he would've torched all the money he made as a fake founder of paypal. it's not a car company — it's a securities/regulatory credits company. that's how they actually make money. it's what they actually want to buy and sell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Delle Donne Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 and what's annoying is *when* this overvalued house of cards collapses it's gonna blow up the stock market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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