Fist 666 Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 the symmetry is my least favorite part and i think i'd like it better w/ either JUST the right 2 or left 2, but i have stuff like that in mind when i imagine my next big tattoo. my right leg... it'll be another year or so but i want an abstract leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 T;5994880']I remember watching that in a documentary about 10 years ago. Rothko is the Symbol. oh man, don't make me go off on rothko (please do. I love the dude. His shit I find more than isnpirational) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl broclo ESQ Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 the symmetry is my least favorite part and i think i'd like it better w/ either JUST the right 2 or left 2. i like how it's not perfect identical symmety. out of all the posts in poesia's original, that one is my favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 i dont look it. it looks too much like pop art. there are elements i like, and aspects, but as a whole im not too nto it. just seems too....'cool' for my overly picky tastes. i'll be back with my favorite from poesias post in one sec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 i liked this one the best, but only the lower half. i dont like the top half. ive always been really into the idea of seams as 'art' and as the focal point of an image. ive never bothered to do anything with it, because i saw it done once before and i figure i cant do it better, but i like the idea. the top of the image is a bit too busy for me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I think this one stuck out the most to me, the concept is simple but how the changing of colors of the line creates a abtract image of a very traditional shape is what sold me. The image you chose i liked at first i couldnt see but the top is a book cover with the pages ripped out. Started this last night not sold on i dont usually paint with brushes and actually on an easel, so it was weird. But it was relaxing, and im sure i will destroy this image somewhere down the road by overlaying some other texture over it. But we will see. Comments on progress i will post the process as i paint it. Im probably going to kill the turqoise expirement gone bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 yeah and take ur time with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 yeah im the most impatient MFucker. I want things done now, i hate waiting for things to dry even when i dry them myself. I usually just start another painting while one is drying. This will be a test of my patience as im actually using a pallette and smaller brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 here is my best advice for that piece. flatten out the colors. and make the values consistent throughout the spaces. it looks like the minimalist brazillian art I talked about before everytime i try to find examples of what I am talking about i end in fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 if this were more refined (ie: the areas of color were more as i paint them, with tediously applied layers) and less 'slapped together', id love it just as it is. as youve said many times, you're super impatient. that works in your sketches, because it gives them a hurried, schizophrenic sort of feel that goes nicely with the letter structure. in your paintings, it often kind of comes across as just that; hurried to completion. atleast to me. i think the thing that has always disguinshed and seperated the artists i like from those that i dont, is their work, no matter how simple, always has an aire of total intent about it. even if its a scribble, the scribble reads as totally natural as if it just happened by accident, but like...magical accident. if that makes sense. everything flows in a natural sort of way that rebels the notion of being 'thought' of, or 'created' and just just of 'exists'. if that makes sense without being art faggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardo Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 i liked the step previous to seekeing's pick. before the oranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth MontgomeryOner Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 the 2nd painting in poesia's progression would be dope if it were flat flat flat and (-) the reds&purple but that's just me I've been drawing lately but it looks sorta kinda similar to the above, colors an all and now i don't want to post it. & I'm liking John Fraser's work a lot thanks for posting him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 I would've stopped Poesia's painting and called it a day right where Seeking posted. I think the burgundy added into the background was one step too far as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 i still think it can be really awesome if he goes further with it. flatten out the background. continue filling in the spaces. don't leave any white. and just make some of that shit pop. i think this would have been a really good project for gauche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl broclo ESQ Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 poesia --i don't really feel like i'm one to evaluate your work, but i guess if this were a class, everyone has to speak up when the teacher says "next." i think, like seeking said, when it comes to painting, you need to slow down. maybe painting is the medium that you need that zen moment to really progress in. it's art, and you're doing it for yourself, right? fuck time limits, just take it slow. in the image seeking posted, i really like the chaotic movement in the red, as it is there. this doesn't mean it's lost in the last image either. maybe make your outline a little bolder on the shapes, and play with thickness of line in those areas. does that make sense? that's my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Thanks guys for all the comments, i agree with alot of the suggestions and its not over i see this as probably 50% done of step one. I want like seeking said to layer transparent colors and also just work in sessions for the first time. Being in a traditional studio type environment will let me evolve my process. I agree with beards i might have stopped it at pic 2 and lacquered and textured it to be complete. But i want to take this painting to build some different avenues. An experiment that i hope to at least pull one idea or technique from. I think the painting might be ok but im already not feeling the initial composition. But the process in this painting is something i want to see for myself where it takes me. I understand what exactly seeking speaks of, and that is why i sometimes question some of my work because it all happens so fast and easy. I can create chaos sometimes, but i will attempt to do the same with alot more order. Ill post next phase as i do it. Keep the comments coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Put in a couple of hours work. A bit more progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 Wow...Okay! I like how the piece itself turned out now. The background is just a little too busy for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I like the second to last in the progression. The colors in the actual piece seem to pop against the background stronger. I think it is because the blacklining stands out. Perhaps strengthin the black outlining? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 and i agree with jangles. bring the background down a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I think it looks pretty fucking awesome in the penultimate picture, so... keep the rotation and make the linework crisp in the central part again? Good work man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 penultimate. good word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 penultimate? you guys are fags. ;) i like the piece in the second to last pic. id probably slightly clean up and strengthen some of the black lines. it has a real picasso 'nude descending stairs' feel to me. then again im stupid. to be honest, i HATE the background. way too busy and slapped together looking for my tastes. not saying it's bad, just saying it's not at all my thing. piece is dope though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Thanks Im trying to push the outline forward then hit with more paint to push it back down add more depth, then im sure ill push it back out with more of the black outline. The background is just kind of noise for now building color, but i have no direction on what i want it to end up like the Looseness doesnt blend with the piece, and if i put shapes of geometric design it would take away from the piece. Im think sold color somehow in the end. But thats whats bothering me. It would be just a piece, im trying build a painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIZENO Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 it has a real picasso 'nude descending stairs' feel to me. Marcel Duchamp, but I see that for sure. P- good work. Thanks for sharing the progression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Nude descending one of my alltime favorite paintings. It has the same color palette and same color being broken apart i can see the similarity. After looking at this again, i think i might have an idea for the background. Maybe thurs, or friday paint some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko SprueOne Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Gerhard Richter's is much better, however not an abstract could be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl broclo ESQ Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 poesia --that second photo in the last progression is where i stand. i like how that looks. i also think that's the best direction for the painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko SprueOne Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Just to clearify : Gerhard Richter's "nude descending stairs" is much better than Picasso, IMO The Poesia [ ] Tpainting above is interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth MontgomeryOner Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 what they said. OK janky scanner it's not finished and there's something about it that really irks me which i'll change tomorrow i'll probably never finish it, as i'm moving on to drawing humans for a while Here's where it's derived from: badda blah &: olde work doodles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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