fatalist Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 some people have too much time on their hands, but the list is witty as shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Originally posted by seeking@Mar 29 2005, 12:55 PM hey satan, here's one for you.... http://durrrrr.blogspot.com/ Quoted post omg hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 while watching fox news over the past couple of weeks (yeah, it gets me geared up), i have noticed that the republi-nazi's ahve been dilligently smearing michael schiavo. those fuckers don't even take into consideration that terri is trapped inside her own head with no means to communicate her thoughts or feelings to the outside world. reminds me of that book "johnny got his gun" and the song about it. I can’t remember anything Can’t tell if this is true or dream Deep down inside I feel the scream This terrible silence stops me Now that the war is through with me I’m waking up I can not see That there's not much left of me Nothing is real but pain now Hold my breath as I wish for death Oh please god,wake me Back in the war it’s much too real In pumps life that I must kill But can’t look forward to reveal Look to the time when I lived Fed through the tube that sticks in me Just like a wartime novelty Tied to machines that make me be Cut this life out from me Hold my breath as I wish for death Oh please god,wake me Now the world is gone I’m just one Oh god,help me hold my breath as I wish for death Oh please God help me Darkness imprisoning me All I see Absolute horror I cannot live I cannot die Trapped in myself Body my holding cell Landmine has taken my sight Taken my speech Taken my hearing Taken my arms Taken my legs Taken my soul Left me with life in hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S@T@N Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 I'm not republican. But I find it scumbaggish as hell that he waited til his girlfriend was knocked up to decide he wants to let Terri die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIZENO Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 I guess if you know anything about either Terry or Michaels personal lives you are paying too much mind to this propaganda. Every time I hear about this I just see a 40 foot Stalin poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 i hear ya, but it's hard to ignore it being a news junky. we hear way too much about peoples personal lives. way too much. and then the govt steps in. state and federal. that makes it even more of a news story. how many thousands of people in america alone are in the same position? how many do we hear about? one. the way i see it: we have allowed our media and government to overstep their boundaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteWisdomOfThePezDisp Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 oh shit. that list just made my day. busy as fuck and tired as hell. I've gotten into way too many arguments with Pro Lifers over this issue. When I ask them if thats how they'd like to live, the answer is always the same, "Well, no, but...". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 bad joke: what's the difference between terri schiavo and a cell phone? if the cell phone goes dead you can just plug it back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Here's a very good article off CNN.com explaining how Terry Shiavo's living corpse is not feeling any pain. Remember folks, it's like she's there physically, but on another plane mentally. Like a chicken with it's head cut off that hasn't stopped running around in circles for the past 15 years. ------------------ http://www.medpagetoday.com/tbindex.cfm?tb...s&CatName=&CID= MedPage Today Action Points * News stories on the Schiavo case often contain confusing and misleading information. Explain the clinical aspects of the diagnosis of persistent vegetative state to patients who ask. * The Schiavo case has increased interest in living wills and advanced directives. Explain these options for end-of-life decisions to patients. Review CLEVELAND-Patients in a persistent vegetative state like Terri Schiavo are a subgroup who suffer severe anoxic brain injury and progress to a state of wakefulness without awareness. It is judged to be permanent after three months if induced nontraumatically. After 3 months, recovery is rare and life expectancy is approximately 2 to 5 years. Patients in a persistent vegetative state do not feel pain, nor do they "suffer," says Michael De Georgia, MD, head of the neurology-neurosurgery intensive care unit at the Cleveland Clinic Foundation here. Pain, as well as suffering, requires consciousness, which is lacking in a person in a persistent vegetative state, says Dr. De Georgia. "Certainly these patients don't suffer," he adds. "Suffering is really that whole emotional aspect of pain: fear, anxiety, panic surrounding pain. You have to have consciousness to experience these emotions. So just as a person in a persistent vegetative state can't experience pain because of a lack of consciousness, they also don't suffer." The issue of the potential pain and suffering of Schiavo, 41, the Florida woman who doctors say has been in a persistent vegetative state for 15 years, has become a national cause celebre. On Friday doctors at a Florida hospice removed Ms. Schiavo's feeding tube after a Florida judge approved the action. Since then President Bush signed a rapidly approved law that puts her fate in the hands of a federal court judge. A federal judge in Florida then refused to order doctors to reinsert the feeding tube, and the Schindlers' lawyers said they intend to appeal immediately to the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals based in Atlanta. This marks the third time Ms. Schiavo has been taken off enteral nutrition during a long and contentious legal battle between her husband - Michael Schiavo who says his wife would want the tube removed - and Ms. Schiavo's parents who steadfastly maintain that their daughter would not want the tube removed. The parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, say their daughter responds to them and is not in a persistent vegetative state. Dr. De Georgia says that a patient in a persistent vegetative state can experience arousal, meaning that the patient's eyes may be open and the patient may laugh, cry or appear to track someone who is in the room. And that is what can be confusing for people, especially relatives, he says. "For example, a patient in persistent vegetative state will grasp your hand. In fact if you put anything into the patient's hand, the hand will grasp it. But this is a very primitive reaction. A newborn baby will grasp your finger, but there is no consciousness." It is consciousness that determines whether one can "feel" pain in the sense that most people understand when they talk about feeling pain. This doesn't mean that a patient like Terri Schiavo won't respond to pain stimulus - if you pinch her arm, she is like to flinch away. "That is called nociception," De Georgia says. "Tissue is damaged by the pinch, this generates a response in a receptor, which sends an impulse along the peripheral nerves. This impulse travels to the thalamus, which directs the arm to withdraw," he said. It is what is commonly called a reflex. Pain, on the other hand, is the recognition of nociception by the nervous system, which sends the impulse to regions of the brain where consciousness exists. In the case of a severely brain injured person - one in a persistent vegetative state - those areas of consciousness have been destroyed, and as result "they don't 'feel' pain." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASER1NE Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Originally posted by S@T@N@Mar 30 2005, 11:27 AM I'm not republican. But I find it scumbaggish as hell that he waited til his girlfriend was knocked up to decide he wants to let Terri die. Quoted post Sorry but he's tried several times in the last 10 years . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S@T@N Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Oh, you mean when he found the $1.6 MILLION trust fund would come to him when she died? You really aren't going to sway me on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 she just died at 9:45a.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S@T@N Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 ... rest in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Originally posted by S@T@N@Mar 31 2005, 08:56 AM ... rest in peace. Quoted post indeed. now she can finally rest in peace. peace out, terri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overtime Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 i just thought it was terrible how the last while of her life, they showed her in her worst on tv, leave that shit off tv....got0damn.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 the whole thing was an invasion of privacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalist Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 R.I.P FINALLY EVERYONE CAN REST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 RIP Terri... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIZENO Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 RIP ... now she can find her way off this plane. And this wont be the end for the argument .... its still a political issue and may become a stronger argument now. the media is overstepping their place, yet its up to you if you make yourself open to take it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteWisdomOfThePezDisp Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Originally posted by fatalist@Mar 31 2005, 12:15 PM R.I.P FINALLY EVERYONE CAN REST. Quoted post couldn't have said it better. RIP I'm tired of all the "morally" conscious people out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODS-1 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 It's about time. I don't mean that in a mean way, I just mean that it was time for it to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S@T@N Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Yeah... I gotta agree. There was actually talk yesterday of putting her back on the tube. At that point, you've kinda tortured her enough already. ...To take the edge off: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/228568 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Originally posted by ERIZENO@Mar 31 2005, 11:52 AM RIP ... now she can find her way off this plane. And this wont be the end for the argument .... its still a political issue and may become a stronger argument now. the media is overstepping their place, yet its up to you if you make yourself open to take it in. Quoted post yeah, you are correct. we have to make a point of when to say 'enough is enough' to ourselves as well as the media and politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODS-1 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Originally posted by S@T@N@Mar 31 2005, 02:18 PM Yeah... I gotta agree. There was actually talk yesterday of putting her back on the tube. At that point, you've kinda tortured her enough already. ...To take the edge off: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/228568 Quoted post Technically it wasn't torture, she can't (couldn't) feel anything. But whatever, it doesn't matter anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Quickwood Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 the veg is dead. off to the compost heap err graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neskoner Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 rip finally,dont you think its alot more peaceful being dead than sitting in a bed all day with your face on the news while people debate wether or not to pull the plug on you...well theres no way it could be stressful for her,but more less her husband had to be fuckin tired of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODS-1 Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Southpark had a good take on it last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASER1NE Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 RIP I'll have to catch that southpark in a year or two when it airs up here ......................lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 I think it's rediculous how the same people that find it a "moral" issue to put so much energy into keeping a comatose brain-dead woman breathing (when she should be aloud to just fucking die already), are for the most part the same doushbags that are 100% behind their "president" sending our troops to die while killing people (mostly inoscent civilians mind you) in another country on the other side of the world that posed absolutely no threat to us. I'll bet if she owned some huge oil feild they would have unpluged the poor bitch 10 years ago. :rolleyes: Oh, the fucking irony! :burn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalist Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 I'm sure it's been said a million times already, but once again, this can serve as a lesson to the rest of us to have a living will made. You don't have to go thru lawyers or legal hoops to get one, you can easily pick up a legal form at a stationary, office or legal supply store. You can even write it out on scratch paper and just get it notarized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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