rubbish heap Posted September 7, 2004 Author Share Posted September 7, 2004 I've heard that PP and glycols won't mix well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Re: potas permang Originally posted by completionz i was fuckin with tha PP in a garvey fiebings mix and shit started to bubble and the marker got hot as fuck...is this a sign that its working or a sign that it shouldn't be mixed with those products. ive heard it doesnt mix or work with garvey but then i used the pp with straight fiebings and the same thing happened so im wondering?? on another note i think someone said that break fluid and pp in a mix together is pointless.but i was wondering since break fluid makes ink take longer to dry and let the ink sink in deeper and stain. wouldn't it make the affects of pp even better due to the seeping in factor??just wonderin about the psycology behind it. damn thats a long post, 60f1 or whatever your name is this ones for you know ur shit<---:D its never bubbled on me, but the marker always get warm. i wouldnt call it hot as fuck, not even hot, but it gets warm.. yeah. i've mixed potassium with garvey, didnt bubble, so i dont know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gates Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 i'm looking to trade by sell supplies..lookin for erasers for mops inks and all that good stuff..AIM Highs149 email assassinator619@yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
completionz Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Re: Re: potas permang Originally posted by chumbawumba its never bubbled on me, but the marker always get warm. i wouldnt call it hot as fuck, not even hot, but it gets warm.. yeah. i've mixed potassium with garvey, didnt bubble, so i dont know. Well it definately bubbled and maybe didnt get hot as fuck but pretty hot but not quite hot enough to burn also shit stayed warm for atleast a few hours but i guess thats normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot niks Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 CAR PAINT? HAS ANYONE USED CAR PAINT IN ANYTHING OR MIXED IT WIT SOMETHING....... ITS PRETTY THICK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adernaline Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 my garvey nero & methyl violet is enough for me ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hot niks Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 Re: CAR PAINT? Originally posted by hot niks HAS ANYONE USED CAR PAINT IN ANYTHING OR MIXED IT WIT SOMETHING....... ITS PRETTY THICK i have a ton of this i got 4 free i dont want to waste it so i was looking 4 a recipie:idea: :idea: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6OF1 Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 Originally posted by chumbawumba newest mix: otr h2b, black garvey, a touch of crystal violet solution.. not sure on the amounts of each because i just like slopped it in a cup, but its realllly nice.. the shine of h2b, the stain of garvey and crystal violet (i hope.. havent tested it out). its really thin, i think im gonna rock it in a mop. Throw in a little shellac and a splash of acetone and watch it get almost as much shine as krink... BTW, from whom did you get that methyl violet? I can't read the full URL on the bottle... Be seeing you. PS Back after a downright shit of a workweek -- I didn't have to work Monday, but by Thursday I already had 34 hours. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6OF1 Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 Re: potas permang Originally posted by completionz i was fuckin with tha PP in a garvey fiebings mix and shit started to bubble and the marker got hot as fuck...is this a sign that its working or a sign that it shouldn't be mixed with those products. ive heard it doesnt mix or work with garvey but then i used the pp with straight fiebings and the same thing happened so im wondering?? on another note i think someone said that break fluid and pp in a mix together is pointless.but i was wondering since break fluid makes ink take longer to dry and let the ink sink in deeper and stain. wouldn't it make the affects of pp even better due to the seeping in factor??just wonderin about the psycology behind it. damn thats a long post, 60f1 or whatever your name is this ones for you know ur shit<---:D OK, you're getting a chemical reaction that basically shouldn't be happening. I doubt if it would really do any good. We've covered the fact that permanganate doesn't dissolve in alcohol and my experience with glycols echoes Rubbish's. The best choice with permanganate is to take a given volume of acetone -- say, half a pint or sommat. Then, dissolve some PP in it. Keep on putting in PP until no more will dissolve in the acetone. May take days... Now, you've got some "super acetone" to add to your ink. Plus, the acetone will bind polar solvents and keep everything mixed. I wouldn't use more than 25% in anything because acetone loves to eat plastic... PP doesn't have to seep into a surface to mar it. It works by oxidising the surface. Actually, if you had your PP suspended in DOT-3 it probably wouldn't work as well, because the PP couldn't oxidise the ground. I maintain, together is useless -- use one or the other. Be seeing you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6OF1 Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 Re: CAR PAINT? Originally posted by hot niks HAS ANYONE USED CAR PAINT IN ANYTHING OR MIXED IT WIT SOMETHING....... ITS PRETTY THICK I've used car paint, but only because a buddy of mine had a paint booth and he would throw me his leftovers. That shit is hella expensive -- like more expensive than 1-Shot or Ronan even. I thinned it with some turpentine and Stoddard, just like normal. Treat it just like you would sign painter's paint. Some of it is fairly translucent, so you might need to add some neutral (white) base to it so that you'll get opaque colour. Be seeing you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6OF1 Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 Originally posted by Adernaline my garvey nero & methyl violet is enough for me ;) You don't even really need to add the methyl violet to this because Garvey is a methyl violet ink. I rock a Garvey/Nero mix all the time and I love it. Even half and half mixes of it look great. Got an OTR160 with that mix in my pocket right now, along with my Leeho full of basic black and a fluor yellow Sakura Solid. Standard equipment, yo. Be seeing you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap Posted September 11, 2004 Author Share Posted September 11, 2004 6OF1 SAVES THE DAY i'm kind of pissed, my leeho's still haven't arrived yet and i sent away the money order a week and a half ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 We've covered the fact that permanganate doesn't dissolve in alcohol and my experience with glycols echoes Rubbish's. then i've wasted a shitload of this stuff :o Throw in a little shellac and a splash of acetone and watch it get almost as much shine as krink... alright, i'll look into trying that. and i got my methyl violet from the chemsavers, inc. store on ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
technikal Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Re: CAR PAINT? Please no more talk about paint, lets stick to the inks. Because basically anything you want to know about bucket paint and shit has already been talked about, so just look back in the thread. Cause im tryin to learn about some hard staining shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gates Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 for that hard staining shit..look back in the thread for that one too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gates Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Originally posted by 6OF1 You don't even really need to add the methyl violet to this because Garvey is a methyl violet ink. I rock a Garvey/Nero mix all the time and I love it. Even half and half mixes of it look great. Got an OTR160 with that mix in my pocket right now, along with my Leeho full of basic black and a fluor yellow Sakura Solid. Standard equipment, yo. Be seeing you. damn you packed uh.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 i wanna get on that nero and garvey mix.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gates Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 ^^same here..but i don't even have nero or garvey..hahah.ahahaaha:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destroya Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 unless you're doing insides, don't bother with a nero/garvey mix. it fades in about 36-72 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 throw some marsh in there youll be set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahness Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 what do you guys think is the best ink for hitting glass??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 pentel 100w's on glass is what i use.. then again theres the dreadful E word.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeaaaah baby Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 ^^you must be talking about bleach. har har har Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneoneoner Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 i have a question for 60f1 here, i read your recipe a few pages back and it sounds deadly but is it a lot better than these inks you can buy? eg: nero, corio,garvey? does it stain and show through buff paint better than these other inks? is it better than the garvey/nero mix? sorry to bombard you with questions but i just want to make sure i'm going to get an excellent ink before i track down some of the suppplys to make it. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinse Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 destroya: are you saying that nero/garvey isnt all that hot? what colors of nero and garvey did you use? fades quick why, exposure to sun? is it a glossy, opaque mix or more of a flat finish ink? ...i have no more questions at this time.;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destroya Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Originally posted by rinse destroya: are you saying that nero/garvey isnt all that hot? what colors of nero and garvey did you use? fades quick why, exposure to sun? is it a glossy, opaque mix or more of a flat finish ink? ...i have no more questions at this time.;) 1- precisely. 2- black nero, violet garvey. 3 - yeah. 4 - when applied, it's glossy and transparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adernaline Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 ive got alot of stuff still running with my nero garvey mix, it's faded slightly still very visible though, but then again who cares, england never gets any sun anyway :D thanks for that 6of1, i've got a mini otr with that mix in it too :crazy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinse Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 so ah, destroya... your word carries heavy currency with me, you may be talking me out of getting some nero. what mix ratio did you use with that batch? do you suppose garvey and marsh might be less transparent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gates Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 marsh is the shizzle.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destroya Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Originally posted by rinse so ah, destroya... your word carries heavy currency with me, you may be talking me out of getting some nero. what mix ratio did you use with that batch? do you suppose garvey and marsh might be less transparent? 1- i appreciate that. 2 - i've tried 2:2, 2:1, and 3:1, both ways. no good. 3 - yeah definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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