rubbish heap Posted January 4, 2004 Author Share Posted January 4, 2004 Originally posted by destroya Marsh - similar to pilot, don't think it contains xylene. check the label on the tin. OTR H2B - no idea. Montana - heard its not worth fooling around with because its the same as zig and therefore waterbased and easy to buff - but no xylene. Corio - comes in plastic container, see statement below. Nero - see corio. Aerosol Art Bombing - see montana. Pilot - alcohol based, don't think it has xylene. City-Wide - probably alcohol based. Garvey - heard it's a mixture of dye and ink, and it comes in a plastic container so see statement below. thanks. here's a big hint: you can't put xylene based inks in plastic containers, because it eats plastic. therefore, whatever is in a plastic marker is not xylene based (so griffin for instance contains no xylene). also, it may not be the scent of xylene that is so distinguishable... to my best knowledge, the main pens that contain xylene are paint pens, like a krylon pen or uni-paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destroya Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 Originally posted by rubbish heap here's a big hint: you can't put xylene based inks in plastic containers, because it eats plastic. therefore, whatever is in a plastic marker is not xylene based (so griffin for instance contains no xylene). also, it may not be the scent of xylene that is so distinguishable... to my best knowledge, the main pens that contain xylene are paint pens, like a krylon pen or uni-paint. i kind of figured there would be an issue montana and aerosol art. i knew that montana paint is waterbased, but what i'm talking about is the ink. same for aerosol art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap Posted January 5, 2004 Author Share Posted January 5, 2004 going by the previous theory that they wouldn't put a xylene in a plastic container because it eats plastic... i'm going to have to say montana for sure doesn't have xyl, and theres a small chance the aerosol art does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap Posted January 5, 2004 Author Share Posted January 5, 2004 yeah just a heads up, i'm almost completely positive the only type of ink with xylene is paint / paint pens / silver ink / krink, and everything else is either water or alcohol based, therefore it doesn't contain xylene (but can still smell, although mildly). i've heard about candy ink, where it stains hardcore and smells like candy, that they use on transit in SF. no idea on how to make it, and no ones giving the recipe :crazy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KestrelSupa Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Yeah Candy Ink! I used to use it for Insides.... I havent got a clue wether the way I did it was the same as the Yanks and I never met anyone else who botherd but........ All I uded to do was get some food flavourings or "essences" e.g. banana flavoring or Vanilla essence, and just mix a bit in with my ink....its all like 80p a bottle so I used to sport a different flavour each few days.... my fave was Rum flavouring>but I think that just made people more aware. well thats how I did it. just make sure you dont add to much otherwise it will start to diloute your stain and you dont want that. ohh and whilst Im posting.... I may aswell just give my recipea. Inferno 40% pink Corio 50% dash of Red Fiebins 10% gentian Purple cristals> just a few... then 2 grams of Methylene Blue Powder.... then put the lot in your marker with a mixing ball..... Works for me..... if you cant get shit where you are just try Mixing Punch Leather dye with teak wood stain, and sticking in a Kiwi< a bumpkin classic from the early 90's:crazy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KestrelSupa Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Fuck knows sunny, I wasent a bumpkin back then....ermm I presume stain for teak wood....but any kind of wood stain will have a similar effect.... I once used blue multi pyrpose wood stain and a bit of inferno when I had nuthin else and wood stain was all I managed to rack, it worked ok so I presume all wood dyes are the same/have the same or similar affect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KestrelSupa Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Gentain Violet.... this is an additive which will make your ink slightly thicker, and depebding on what ink it is mixed with> also add a tint. It will also leave a stain/ghosting when buffed, or if mixed with the correct amounts of other ingredients help ensure an unbuffable stain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kin0nerMDK Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 ABOUT GENTIAN VIOLET I GUESS THERES MORE THAN ONE FORM OF THE VIOLET STUFF, I GOT THE LIQUID FORM, I HAVE PILOT INK AND MARSH INK, WHICH WOULD IT LEAVE A GHOST BEST WITH?? AND ANY HELP WITH WHAT I CAN ADD WITH THE VIOLET O HELP LEAVE A BETTER STAIN??? THANKS PEACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap Posted January 7, 2004 Author Share Posted January 7, 2004 Re: ABOUT GENTIAN VIOLET Originally posted by kin0nerMDK I GUESS THERES MORE THAN ONE FORM OF THE VIOLET STUFF, I GOT THE LIQUID FORM, I HAVE PILOT INK AND MARSH INK, WHICH WOULD IT LEAVE A GHOST BEST WITH?? AND ANY HELP WITH WHAT I CAN ADD WITH THE VIOLET O HELP LEAVE A BETTER STAIN??? THANKS PEACE those inks are so similar, but marsh is *slightly* stronger. mix some leather dye into it along with your gentian violet and its definitely going to help the stain/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwaz_here594 Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Originally posted by rubbish heap INK RECIPE NUMBER TWO This ones for homemade Krink. This is some of the easiest shit to make. First, get some Rusto Aluminum paint. Its nice and silver. Next get some Paint thinner. Mix it to whatever proportion you want - the more thinner, the more drippy. You can also add a little bit of brake fluid, for staining power. Another quality brand of bucket paint for mops is ONE SHOT. It's ultra glossy, lead based, and used to paint signs on the street. Any questions are welcome. .......... wouldnt the pressure in the paint make the marker bust when you add rusto paint in it???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rukas Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Adding mercurochrome to the ink helps it to stain more and adds a nice red hue to it, especially the drips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwaz_here594 Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 .....yo, i racked a few Freehand markers 0.6"... damn, the paint that comes with them suck!!!!! anyone ever used those? are those good to refill? if so what recipie shoud i use with it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOVIE Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 can anyone tell me if "rain-ex" is good.........aparently its some thing that you put on car windows to make them kind of waterproof....and someone told me that its kinda good to mix........but hes only been writin for a few weeks so im not sure..........anyone tell me any info??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 Originally posted by iwaz_here594 .....yo, i racked a few Freehand markers 0.6"... damn, the paint that comes with them suck!!!!! anyone ever used those? are those good to refill? if so what recipie shoud i use with it.. sounds like they're waterbased, just like a zig. in that case, throw out the one you have and get a new one, don't let the ink get into the nib and drain out all liquid, and than refill with an alcohol based ink and mix it with leather dye. i've had a decent experience with using solely griffin, but i'd recommend mixing in ink as well such as pilot to help the flow. either way, it won't flow as well as the original waterbased (weak) paint, but it'll be more permanent. Originally posted by TFSworldwide the kid that started this thread shouldnt even write "whats a roller" ; "latex or oil" ; "does it dry fast" THE DEFENSE RESTS what the fuck are you talking about? I started this thread. :rolleyes: Originally posted by iwaz_here594 .......... wouldnt the pressure in the paint make the marker bust when you add rusto paint in it???? sorry i didn't make this clear earlier, but i meant to say use rusto BUCKET paint, not the stuff that comes out of a spray can. Originally posted by HOVIE can anyone tell me if "rain-ex" is good.........aparently its some thing that you put on car windows to make them kind of waterproof....and someone told me that its kinda good to mix........but hes only been writin for a few weeks so im not sure..........anyone tell me any info??? i don't know about the quality of rain ex or whatnot, but if i were you i would not be trusting some kid who's only been writing for a couple weeks as to whats good or not.. shit. edit: after doing a little research into it, i discovered what it actually is... fluid that helps to keep things lubricated so that when rain lands on a windshield, it seeps right off. and than i found it how to buff it - a 50/50 combination of denatured alcohol and water. eh, sounds legit. mixing silicone into your ink would probably be better, though. edit 4-5-04: doing a little house cleaning to condense this thread a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOVIE Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 thanks a lot rubbish heap......one more question i have which should be in the mops thread but ill just save it to 1 post......i made a glue stick mop using a strip of board wiper.....and before i went out to use it, i just filled the glue stick with water to see if it would drip, and it drips a little bit between the twisty bit and the actual glue bit.......any help on how i could solve this??....i tried tape..and taping tissues to it but it doesnt really work:confused: thanks again... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caL Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 yea put wax or super glue on that twisty thing so its waterproof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryl0n Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 QUESTION- i have a very promising mop vessel but have a dilemma with regards to filling; i dont have chrome bucket paint and dont wanna have to bother "obtaining" some, i do however have a loada chrome spray. would it be ok to just spray out all the chrome spraypaint, leave the propellant to vapourize, and then put THAT in a mop??? any help appreciated?:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parcheesey Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 this is what i was told to do and i did. spray it in a cup or whatever and add a marble or something to swish it around with. let it sit for a few days and mix the marble around every so often. then put it in ur mop. the problem is that its really thin so i just threw mine away, or u could mix it with something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kin0nerMDK Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 DERMOPRADA*?? I HAVE SME SHIT CALLED "DERMOPRADA*" IT IS IN SPANISH SO ITS PROBABLY SOMETHING ELSE, DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS IN ENGLISH? I PUT A DOT OF IT ON MY DOOR, THEN LET IT DRY ADN TRIED CLEANING IT OFF, ADN NOT EVEN GOOF-OFF TOOK IT OFF, SO I THINK ITS PRETTY STRONG, DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT HIS IS, IT ALSO SAYS THIS "ACIDO ACETICO CLOROFORMO YODO" THANKS PEACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_b0b Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Marsh ink question I'm from England, where it is nearly impossible to get Marsh ink, so I have no one else to ask this to: I got me a big tub of Marsh ink and have been trying it out but I am finding it too thick to flow easily. I've tried diluting it with ordianry ink but not with much success. So far I've put it in a posca and also the MArsh 88 pen (the long one that looks like a big bolt) but neither have really been satisfactory. How can I get it flowing nicely? Does it only work well in a mop? (in which case I'm buggered as I hate mops as they aren't really siutable for what I hit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Morris Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 I always like to fill brandnew wood crafts with marsh. That marker will hold anything you want to put in it. <3, Zack Morris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 good thining agents: toluene xylene generic paint thinner not sure how easy it is to get this stuff in england; if you can't find it, some [expensive] thinner usually used for thinning oil paint will work (like linseed oil) and yes, Marsh in a mop is killer. try that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbawumba Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Hey. I went to AltaVista's Babel Fish Translator and typed in "ACIDO ACETICO CLOROFORMO YODO" in the Spanish-English translator and "Acido" and Acetico" came in the same Spanish words, but "Cloroformo" means Chloroform, and "Yodo" means Iodine. "DERMOPRADA" must be a Spanish brand, because it comes up the same. I tried. Chumbawumba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwaz_here594 Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 YO... ANYONE EVER USE INDIA INK... IS IT GOOD IN MARKERS?? WHAT CAN I MIX IT WITH?? ANY HELP NEEDED.... THANKS PEACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbish heap Posted January 13, 2004 Author Share Posted January 13, 2004 Originally posted by iwaz_here594 YO... ANYONE EVER USE INDIA INK... IS IT GOOD IN MARKERS?? WHAT CAN I MIX IT WITH?? ANY HELP NEEDED.... THANKS PEACE india ink is waterbased garbage. let's just put it this way, the only thing its permanent on is paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuck muni Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 i think marsh ink is hyped up....it doesnt even stain hard....and they dont work well in woodcrafts cus it sometimes will solify and crust up, or it wont flow through the tip wel my advice....put the marsh in a mop and save your woodcrafts for the feibings i just make myself "imitation marsh"...just take some glossy black rusto enamel, mix with some paint thinner....and you got something just as good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shitmop-1$ Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 it all depends on the grade of marsh that you have. I believe the k-grade marsh is the thick stencil ink and works best in a mop. but the t-grade is a marker like ink which goes into the marsh 88 pens, and is ment to flow with markers and shit. i might have the grades mixed up, but one dries up like glossy ink, and the other more like a flat oily black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBench Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 T grade is the best and most permanent marsh ink to use. do not use pigmented! it is too thick for most markers and can take too long to dry. it is best to use tgrade dye type. that is what is inside the marsh 88hf upgrade of the marsh 88. dye type is better because it drys faster and is thinner. they are both the same in being permannent. just make sure you are using dye not pigmented. you probably are using eithre not tgrade or you are using pigmented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBench Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 one more thing never use paint thinner or try thinning marsh. also k grade is not even close to as permanent as t grade. another ink to try is pilot or sanford stamp ink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidus Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 K grade marsh is shit....its all gasoline...and doesn't stain very well either....does n e body kno how 2 make the tgrade ink n e thicker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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