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oh snap! they may find jimmy hoffa!

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by boogie hands, May 19, 2006.

  1. boogie hands

    boogie hands 12oz Legend

    Joined: Feb 15, 2001 Messages: 16,059 Likes Received: 13
    of course NPR pretty much brushed this story to the side (becasue it doesnt really matter at all....and i mean, AT ALL) but luckly we have CNN to devote way too much space to the story. im not going to lie....its kind of interesting. not what i would call news but interesting none the less.

    CNN) -- The FBI is using everything it has to find the remains of Jimmy Hoffa after agents received what they say is "a fairly credible lead" on the former Teamsters boss' 1975 disappearance.

    The arsenal includes forensic experts from the bureau's Washington laboratory and a team of scientists that includes anthropologists, archaeologists, engineers and architects who will accompany local police and cadaver dogs for the next two weeks.
    The architects and engineers are needed because authorities may need to remove a 30-foot-by-100-foot horse barn during their search, said Daniel D. Roberts, special agent in charge of the FBI's field office in Detroit, Michigan. (Watch what authorities are willing to say about probe -- 3:00)
    Authorities converged Wednesday on an 80-acre horse farm after receiving and confirming a tip that the former union boss may have been buried in Milford Township, about 30 miles west of Detroit.
    "There have been a number of leads out in this area that have been covered previously in the last 30 years," said Roberts, who has held his post for the last two years. "This is the best lead I've seen come across in the Hoffa investigation."
    As for further details, Roberts said the affidavit was sealed, and "unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to give you the answers that you want."
    He added that the FBI would not hold another briefing for reporters until agents found something significant. He estimated that agents would be on the property for about two weeks.
    The property owners, who have been cooperative, did not own the property when Hoffa disappeared, Roberts said.
    The tip

    An informant reported seeing a backhoe and other "suspicious activity" around the farm on the night Hoffa disappeared in 1975, a law enforcement official said Thursday.
    That tip triggered Wednesday's search for Hoffa's remains at the farm.
    The tipster said the backhoe was operating near a barn that organized crime members used for meetings, a law enforcement official familiar with the search said.
    The informant said that the night after Hoffa disappeared, the mobsters never went back to that area of the farm,according to the official.
    Police had received the information several years ago, but verified it only recently, said the official, who asked for anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.
    "This is probably a fairly credible lead," Roberts told reporters Thursday.
    The hunt

    Aerial footage from the scene on Wednesday showed at least 15 people outside a barn, most of whom were digging a rectangular hole. (Watch the mystery of Hoffa's disappearance -- 2:04)
    FBI agents were back at the site Thursday, and investigators were seen pushing metal rods into a field, creating a grid and marking areas where the rods might have struck something underneath the soil.
    John and Deb Koskovich have lived on a neighboring property since 1985. When they saw the men digging next door Wednesday, John Koskovich asked them what they were doing. "They just said they were executing a search warrant," Deb Koskovich said.
    John Koskovich said there have been reports over the years that Hoffa may be buried in the area, but "we just thought it was just another one of those crazy rumors."
    Who did he meet at the Red Fox?

    Hoffa was last seen at Machus Red Fox restaurant in Bloomfield Township. He was reportedly there to meet Detroit mob street enforcer Anthony Giacalone and New Jersey Teamsters official Anthony Provenzano. (Who is Jimmy Hoffa?)
    Hoffa believed Giacalone had set up the meeting to help settle a feud between Hoffa and Provenzano, but Hoffa was the only one who showed up for the meeting, according to the FBI.
    Giacalone and Provenzano later told the FBI that no meeting had been scheduled.
    The FBI said Hoffa's disappearance could have been linked to the union boss' efforts to regain power in the Teamsters after he was released from prison.
    After serving time for jury tampering and fraud at a federal penitentiary in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania, Hoffa was pardoned by President Richard Nixon on December 23, 1971.
    Nixon included in the pardon a condition that Hoffa "not engage in direct or indirect management of any labor organization" until at least March 1980.
    Hoffa was 62 at the time of his disappearance.
    In September 2001, the FBI found DNA that linked Hoffa to a car that agents suspected was used in his disappearance, but they couldn't prove it.
    In May 2004, authorities in Oakland County, Michigan, removed floorboards from a Detroit home and found blood that they thought might be linked to Hoffa's disappearance. Milford Township is in Oakland County.
    Authorities went to the Detroit home in 2004 after a biography of former Teamsters official Frank Sheehan stated that Sheehan shot Hoffa in the home, just beyond the front door.
    Investigators ruled blood found in the house was not Hoffa's. The FBI has a sample of his DNA.
    Sheehan, who was considered a confidant of Hoffa's, died in December 2003. Provenzano died in 1988 after being convicted in another murder case and Giacalone died of kidney failure in 2002 at age 82.
    Hoffa's son, James P. Hoffa, is the current president of the Teamsters.
    CNN's Kelli Arena, Kevin Bohn and David Mattingly contributed to this report.

    Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this report

    l http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/18/hoffa.search/index.html

    p.s.- i have a fairly credible lead.....in my pants.

    p.p.s.- this what comes up when you google image "really fucking ugly guy"


    thats a lie. i didnt google image "really fucking ugly guy" and jimmy hoffa did not come up. i just took the picture from the cnn story.

  2. Mainter

    Mainter Veteran Member

    Joined: Sep 7, 2003 Messages: 5,450 Likes Received: 1
    who cares he has been dead 30 years its just gonna be bones whats the point of finding him?
  3. swedish erotica

    swedish erotica Banned

    Joined: Jan 17, 2006 Messages: 1,758 Likes Received: 2
    this is already on wikipedia.
    people straight on their feet man...
  4. shameless self promotion

    shameless self promotion 12oz Legend

    Joined: Mar 7, 2001 Messages: 16,307 Likes Received: 112
    Everyone knows you dont fuck with people from detroit.
  5. ClueTwo

    ClueTwo Veteran Member

    Joined: Nov 30, 2001 Messages: 9,026 Likes Received: 121
    Yeah, Eminem and Kid Rock are some scary lookin motherfuckers...hahaha
  6. If they find him it would complete my life.........

    no it wouldn't
  7. Syre

    Syre Junior Member

    Joined: Dec 14, 2004 Messages: 178 Likes Received: 8
    exactly who gives a shit where he is. I dont know why people make a big deal about finding this guy. There are thousands of people missing that nobody ever finds. I just think people like saying Jimmy Hoffa because its a cool name. :D
  8. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    he's also the biggest figure in the history of american unions and it's a story that everyone knows. i cant say i 'care' about it, but being from michigan and having grown up around all these areas mentioned it's somewhat amusing. and if we've learned anything over the last 6 years it's that if something is amusing to me, it's amusing to all of you, because...well, just because.
  9. ClueTwo

    ClueTwo Veteran Member

    Joined: Nov 30, 2001 Messages: 9,026 Likes Received: 121
    That was funny...Just because..
  10. RumPuncher

    RumPuncher Elite Member

    Joined: Jul 4, 2005 Messages: 4,500 Likes Received: 5
    I think the babyboomers need to stop wasting so much time covering things that were important to them decades ago. They put all that talk into Deepthroat and watergate while China was threatening to use the atomic bomb on Taiwan, but did the news media cover it? Nope... they were all caught up in nostalgia. It's the same thign here. Seeking's got a point that Hoffa is a very important figure in modern american history, but finding his body will probably just be another 'Al Capone's Vault'. Maybe instead of revisiting a news story from 1975, they could ask a few questions about Dafur?
  11. mackfatsoe

    mackfatsoe Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 8, 2004 Messages: 6,532 Likes Received: 168
    << a little too sexy for the office >>

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  12. boogie hands

    boogie hands 12oz Legend

    Joined: Feb 15, 2001 Messages: 16,059 Likes Received: 13
    while it would be nice thats probably not going to happen here. those of us who want real news read/listen to the BBC and NPR. the rest go for the patriotic "every thing is under control" (fox) or the watered down "here is entertainment report for the 4th time in 10 minutes" (cnn). the evening news is somewhere in between but when your primary objective is ratings and ad revenue you arent really, as a network, going to be chomping at the bit to serve america a big plate of shit during the dinner hour. i can see where they are coming from (which is why i ignore them) and they have obviously pegged their market (scared/apathetic americans).

    p.s.-someone take that shit down above me (please). if want half nude teens flashing up on my screen at work ill check the myspace post.
    Last edited: May 19, 2006
  13. ClueTwo

    ClueTwo Veteran Member

    Joined: Nov 30, 2001 Messages: 9,026 Likes Received: 121
    Damn the porn...Damn it all to hell!!

    PUMPKIN ESCOBAR Senior Member

    Joined: Oct 19, 2004 Messages: 2,443 Likes Received: 34
    neither of those guys are from detroit
  15. Gat Bush

    Gat Bush Veteran Member

    Joined: Jul 23, 2003 Messages: 9,817 Likes Received: 129
    detroit smells like shit