misteraven Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 Back on topic… How realistic is this movie? Hollywood sensationalism or plausible if this country keeps walking the same path? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~KRYLON2~ Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 You can use your farts to ward off any potential intruders. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misteraven Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 38 minutes ago, misteraven said: Back on topic… How realistic is this movie? Hollywood sensationalism or plausible if this country keeps walking the same path? Anyone? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 I feel angsty about this shit. I don't even know if that's the right word. I was talking to my cousin about this shit over Easter. Like I'm at the point where if it's gonna happen, let's fuckin get on with it. I'm not sure I understand the concept of the movie. Is the US government involved. Is that who the people are going up against? Should this movie be called American Coup, then? I'm gonna have to check this movie out when it drops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndv Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 How realistic, I mean, I would like to think we've had micro oppositions (lone wolf actors), but this is portraying an all out civil war but with a purge kinda feel. I think yes, if thinks keeping going the way they are, there is a huge potential it could happen, but it would stop faster than it starts. For example, the government would immediately cease all civilian munitions sales and supply. Leaving them with the control over bullets. The one thing we have and the government doesn't is the manufacturing. So we definitely would be able to hold the front on that. The other thing we gonna need to do is off all the Paul Revere 2.0s cause they gonna snith to the government what we are up to. Unfortunately, anyone on a horse is gonna get it. We also need to seize control of crops and food supply. This is vital as the government will be forced to eat lab grow meat which over time will have side effects that will greatly reduce mental development not to mention reek havoc on the body being all malnourished physically weakening the enemy. This is start around 2nd year in war. Unfortunately, the government made a fatal mistake and put theor offspring at risk. We definitely do not need the beast to return decades later so alliances and money and gold needs to be stock piled as some of it needs to be allocated for bounties on their offspring. Dead not alive, no matter the age or sex. Decapitate. All while this is going down, we will start to establish a new world order, the US dollar is worthless and Pepe is the new drug of choice. We make peace with Iran but kill them too because you cannot trust them. You do this by peeing on a goat and giving it them them, not sure if this is an insult but it is for the goat. Which will start the killing fields. Back to the states. After successfully toppling to countries by the means of using a bunch of Jan 6th rioters, we lock them up because they are dangerous and we cannot afford the country to go in peril again. I think this is a perfect road map how this is going to truly unfold in the near future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Which foreign countries are going to provide us aid. Which side of the fight are they going to support? This shit is going to be the corniest civil war ever. While the Bundy's are busy lubing their guns with liberal tears, or what ever the bumper stickers say, hunger pangs set in due to an unforseen shortage of snacks. Again. The right has severely underestimated the left on fire power. Like liberals are afraid of guns or something. You know who loves guns? Americans in general. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I think an actual civil war would be much worse than anything Hollywood can imagine. People underestimate the sheer terror the Federal Government is prepared to unleash on any number of citizens that threaten their monopoly on violence. I see this shit every day, destroying as many lives as what suits them without even a drop of remorse. Physical & psychological torture, extrajudicial murders, cruelty beyond most people's comprehension. Obamas drone program was shown to kill innocents 90% of the time by his own people, and he kept it going his entire presidency. There are famous people like Assange who exposed that, who's been held in solitary confinement for years for a "crime" that's a guaranteed right, in the very first rule (1A) in our core legal document. People that are just straight up murdered like Duncan Lemp, and other that die in countless other "no knock raids" for minor infractions. Ross Ulbricht who's imprisoned for triple life for simply designing the Silk Road website. What do you think they'll do to people when their brutal arrogance turns into actual concern for holding onto their power? With all that said, anyone who's studied Sun Tzu or anything about military history/strategy knows that an embedded force with inferior weapons, supplies, and funding can defeat a superpower due to the advantage irregular warfare provides. That's how the Vietcong beat the United States, that's how the Afghans defeated not 1, but 2 superpowers. Considering how heavily armed the civilian population is here, if it came down to it, eventually they'd win against the Federal Government. The days of lining up to be slaughtered by cannon fire, and muskets on a battlefield is long gone. Again, I'm saying it's definitely going to be unimaginably terrible, but in the end, there's absolutely no way the same military that couldn't defeat the Taliban after 21 years of war and Trillions spent could defeat the most heavily armed civilian population that's ever existed. Because of my almost autistic approach adherence to principles & beliefs, I'm only able to use violence for immediate threats to life, which excludes war, but there are many civilians, and ex military who train regularly for warfare who don't hold these same beliefs. We're a lot closer to something catastrophic happening than a lot of people are willing to admit. Anyone who's paying attention to Texas and the border issue understands how many Americans are willing to Davey Crocket/Jim Bowie up and head down to the "Alamo" to be slaughtered. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 59 minutes ago, ndv said: manufacturing 59 minutes ago, ndv said: seize control I see you comrade. My nipples just got hard. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~KRYLON2~ Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I don't really know shit about fighting wars and securing territories but if I did I would... 1. secure shipping ports, airports, major highways for transporting supplies and people 2. Overtake the energy infrastructure. That would be oil fields, and power plants. 3. Major industries with large scale factories that can build planes, vehicles, computer chips, munitions, etc. 4. Control telecommunications and propaganda. 5. Make alliances with foreign countries that could provide money, supplies, and intelligence. 6. You have to have people that are trained to operate all this.....and boots on the ground to defend them. 7. Food. No one's doing anything unless they're fed. An Army marches on its stomach. 8. Leadership. Who's gonna mastermind a way to put this all together? Does whatever side your on have leadership that understands military strategy? Whose strategy is superior? A motley crew making decisions is going to get alot of people killed. 9. Civil wars are complex. There's alot of factors that lead up to them forming, take your pick. 10. How are you going to occupy territory and people? This is usually what causes a more powerful state to fail when it's carried out over a long timeline. Very expensive and taxes your resources, the same applies to civil wars 11. What's the exit plan. Are you establishing a new government system or simply killing and destroying an adversary. Honestly I feel like a civil war in America is not going to happen anytime soon. We depend on each other to much whether we like it or not. I'm not gonna dive into it, but I can't off the top of my head think of any region in the USA that has such a massive advantage over another that it would succeed and start a civil war for any reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareOnElmStreet Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Mercer said: I think an actual civil war would be much worse than anything Hollywood can imagine. People underestimate the sheer terror the Federal Government is prepared to unleash on any number of citizens that threaten their monopoly on violence. I see this shit every day, destroying as many lives as what suits them without even a drop of remorse. Physical & psychological torture, extrajudicial murders, cruelty beyond most people's comprehension. Obamas drone program was shown to kill innocents 90% of the time by his own people, and he kept it going his entire presidency. There are famous people like Assange who exposed that, who's been held in solitary confinement for years for a "crime" that's a guaranteed right, in the very first rule (1A) in our core legal document. People that are just straight up murdered like Duncan Lemp, and other that die in countless other "no knock raids" for minor infractions. Ross Ulbricht who's imprisoned for triple life for simply designing the Silk Road website. What do you think they'll do to people when their brutal arrogance turns into actual concern for holding onto their power? With all that said, anyone who's studied Sun Tzu or anything about military history/strategy knows that an embedded force with inferior weapons, supplies, and funding can defeat a superpower due to the advantage irregular warfare provides. That's how the Vietcong beat the United States, that's how the Afghans defeated not 1, but 2 superpowers. Considering how heavily armed the civilian population is here, if it came down to it, eventually they'd win against the Federal Government. The days of lining up to be slaughtered by cannon fire, and muskets on a battlefield is long gone. Again, I'm saying it's definitely going to be unimaginably terrible, but in the end, there's absolutely no way the same military that couldn't defeat the Taliban after 21 years of war and Trillions spent could defeat the most heavily armed civilian population that's ever existed. Because of my almost autistic approach adherence to principles & beliefs, I'm only able to use violence for immediate threats to life, which excludes war, but there are many civilians, and ex military who train regularly for warfare who don't hold these same beliefs. We're a lot closer to something catastrophic happening than a lot of people are willing to admit. Anyone who's paying attention to Texas and the border issue understands how many Americans are willing to Davey Crocket/Jim Bowie up and head down to the "Alamo" to be slaughtered. At the risk of sounding out of my lane, I’ll say I agree with everything you’re saying but unless it truly is one giant conspiracy inching us all closer to this whole entire thing I gotta wonder how our government let January 6th happen without anyone getting demolished. If they really cared that much about losing control of situations on our own soil I mean. Idk I’m sure it’s way deeper but lolol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 28 minutes ago, NightmareOnElmStreet said: At the risk of sounding out of my lane, I’ll say I agree with everything you’re saying but unless it truly is one giant conspiracy inching us all closer to this whole entire thing I gotta wonder how our government let January 6th happen without anyone getting demolished. If they really cared that much about losing control of situations on our own soil I mean. Idk I’m sure it’s way deeper but lolol. My theory on that is Jan 6th was absolutely zero real threat. Like no more than any other protest turned riot. In a real insurrection, like one where someone tries to take over the government, an organized military force of at least some size is used. Like special forces, or a bunch of secret service agents loyal to trump. Not a bunch of unorganized, unarmed suckers that the guy they were protesting for turned his back on them. Those people were simply protestors 100%, and stood zero chance of ever toppling the government. The press's characterization that it was an insurrection, or a threat to democracy, etc. is completely false. There are way more out of control riots, and way more destruction to government property than that on a regular basis, including here in Colorado. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareOnElmStreet Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 19 minutes ago, Mercer said: My theory on that is Jan 6th was absolutely zero real threat. Like no more than any other protest turned riot. In a real insurrection, like one where someone tries to take over the government, an organized military force of at least some size is used. Like special forces, or a bunch of secret service agents loyal to trump. Not a bunch of unorganized, unarmed suckers that the guy they were protesting for turned his back on them. Those people were simply protestors 100%, and stood zero chance of ever toppling the government. The press's characterization that it was an insurrection, or a threat to democracy, etc. is completely false. There are way more out of control riots, and way more destruction to government property than that on a regular basis, including here in Colorado. Lololol idk man. I caught that little 24hr documentary and the politicians hiding out afraid for their lives or that one security man are either really really good actors or definitely was under some heavy threat. I think bottom line at the capitol though it was ridiculous it was allowed to happen the way that it did. They pick and choose everything on purpose anyways to keep the lights off always so we can barely see each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misteraven Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 If anyone takes a few to look up and study past insurrections, this one falls laughably short. Reality is there’s zero chance that they couldn’t keep people out if they really wanted to. Plus all the videos that have popped up, literally showing guards unlocking and opening doors and in general just walking / escorting people… Not sure how you can’t look at Jan 6 as any kind of actual attempt to overthrow anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndv Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I guess it was a false flag just to show the people the government is still in control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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