Drue_Down Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 There is nothing wrong with 36 year olds acting like 15 year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 fall rivera we'll try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*PROTOCOL* Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I love kratom. I usually do about 5-6 grams of the finely powdered thai variety, mixed in with some orange juice or something and shook up and slammed like a shot. It makes me feel calm and relaxed but ready to do stuff at the same time. I love doing shit like riding a bike on it, or if I have some sort of job to do like yard or house work it works great for that sort of thing. Too much is gross though, reminds me of taking a bunch of drags off a cigarette really fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 so is it actually an opiate? I get it's legal in the sense that you wont get a possession charge, but would it pop on a piss test as opiate? More on passion flower and valerian root please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 This is passion flower AKA passiflora incarnata. It grows all over CA- I have passiflora growing in my back yard, along with that there's a few other similar things growing nearby like damiana, skullcap, mugwort, hops, salvia, catnip, San Pedro...just about everything except valerian and calamus, which are easy enough to come by. Passion flower is euphoric, valerian is sedative (similar to benzos). San Pedro has mescaline in it. The other ones I listed are calmatives. I usually make tea out of them so it's not like I get loaded, but it definitely takes the edge off. If I wanted to get high I'd take a trip up north and get more poppies. THAT is what you want to make tea out of. Sassafras will get you pretty fucked up too but it's really hard on the liver. I've heard of kratom, never come across it. It sounds pleasant enough but if I wanted an opiate buzz I'd probably just take the real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcs Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 its pretty close to the real thing right down to the itch. I made some into hot cocoa yesterday. Still pretty disgusting but better than shoveling a half oz of foul tasting powder into your mouth. Ive been making a conscious effort to not take opiates. Too expensive for what i like and I'm allergic to the real thing. This is mild and slightly stimulating. (bali) But I can unmistakably sense the opiate. What i like about it. Its natural, it works, it has no apap. Dont have to worry about what the nurgas walked on it with and its pleasant. Its cheap no experience with any other natural legal intoxicant except salvia and valarian. The valarian didnt work and it smells awful. The salvia kind of a waste of time for me. I got a bunch for free from people that had bad experiences from it. They found it terrifying. They were kinda pissed i didnt have a bad time. Some friends huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
En Sabah Nur Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 can you smoke it? what i mean is, can i sprinkle it on weed and sell it to stupid people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChupacabra Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 You can sprinkle anything on weed and sell it to stupid people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toluene_causes_tumors Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 i tried this shit and i think it might have slightly done something but it didnt seem worth the effort. salvia definitely worked and i definitely questioned the nature of reality heavily for a couple of weeks afterwards.....more intense than acid, shrooms, 2ci or 2ce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forsit Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Salvia lasts like 3 minutes tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullshitTantrum Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 You can sprinkle anything on anything and sell it to stupid people. salvia was intense for me one time and i was still kinda on acid. its a dissociative? either way most people that freak out on salvia i wouldn't wanna trip with. Valerian root is a hard one to work out. everyone's chemical make up is different so for some people they need a lot more than others or concentrated. you might need to boil it down and make a tea or take the extract and put it on raw valerian root and smoke it or vape it. it does taste like shit but it got me real lucid. my friend took pills before he slept and it gave him crazy dreams. i don't even really fuck with this stuff much, i would just do this kinda thing instead of the head shop/porn store drugs. which is a really fucking odd market for me to wrap my mind around. one dogs facing east. one dogs facing west. what ya gonna do about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUGR Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 my friend took pills before he slept and it gave him crazy dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drue_Down Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 ^^ I live on the worst block in New Hampshire http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjackson https://www.facebook.com/AdamJackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcs Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 If salvia lasted 3 hours instead of 3 minutes i would fux wit it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPS Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcs Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 sfuct up. Already dddicted. Had to resort to prostituting myself out to beautiful model type women for money to sustain my habit.. Should probably KMS nao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 BUMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toluene_causes_tumors Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 salvia trips can FEEL like they last for hours if you get a really powerful grade and do it right.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 no experience with any other natural legal intoxicant except salvia and valarian. The valarian didnt work and it smells awful. The salvia kind of a waste of time for me. I got a bunch for free from people that had bad experiences from it. They found it terrifying. They were kinda pissed i didnt have a bad time. Some friends huh? Valerian is subtle...it doesn't get you fucked up but a lot of it will relax you then knock you out. Salvia was okay, similar to a DMT trip but without the "I'm smoking Scotchguard out of a glass dick" experience. A few years back one of my 12 oz buddies gave me some ayahuasca. That was cool. Total lucid dream state. I'd like to try it again some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullshitTantrum Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 have you ever tried to harvest the san pedro and make the tea yourself? thats something i'd be interested in for sure. i'd rather do dmt if i was already tripping. i dunno about salvia while tripping but that would most likely make it last longer. whats up with the sassafras? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 have you ever tried to harvest the san pedro and make the tea yourself? thats something i'd be interested in for sure. i'd rather do dmt if i was already tripping. i dunno about salvia while tripping but that would most likely make it last longer. whats up with the sassafras? I used to make milkshakes out of San Pedro (about 8" is a decent dose). It doesn't taste anywhere near as bad as peyote but you definitely don't want to eat it straight. It's really common in the East Bay...one front yard I know about in Berkeley has a lifetime supply. Sassafras contains safrole which is one of the precursors to MDMA. So in theory if you made some sassafras tea (about an ounce per dose) and popped a couple of Adderall you might get something similar to a MDMA experience. Keep in mind that it's hard on the liver...I don't recommend it but you're responsible for your own actions. I've talked with some friends about kratom and now I really want to try it. I don't want the head shop variety so I'm trying local herb shops...if I find some I'll report back here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Just found some...time to take the Pepsi challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullshitTantrum Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 thanks for the heads up. i think i'd be stuck in my front yard on a vision quest if i lived on the lefty coast. i fucked with molly a lil bit but never knew what the deal was other than its derived from sass. can you vap the kratom herb? that seems like the way to do it. an has anyone blended a bunch of herbs together to try em that way? that passion flower/weed/valarian put me out. after fuckin with that stuff i wouldn't wanna touch pharmies again. /20 questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50million Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 so....the verdict? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Not in stock at the moment, so apparently it's rather popular right now. I'll try back later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drue_Down Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Any drug with a cartoon mascot on the package has to be legit, so go ahead and exceed recommended dosage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuntflaps Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 thought I'd give it a try, paid £12.99 for 5 grams, probably got ripped offed I don't care. After I got it in the mail I read on blue light that some dude blended an oz with 1 cup of water to get the effect I was hoping for, however I had about 4 grams in my coffee this morning and it is a good cure for hangovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnifeHits RS Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Eagerly awaiting follow up thread begging for Kratom money and how your shitty suburban life is spinning out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screaming hand logo Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 bwahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcs Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Biggest drawback is getting it down. Starting to think one of the X concentrate hookups is the way to go. The less of this you have to ingest the easier and the better. I would way rather a teaspoon over 2 heaping tablespoon. Especially if the teaspoon does the job better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.