nsmbfan Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Does anybody do this? I've been checking out Bodog.com, it seems to have the most commercials on TV. The thing is, it's not like the betting me and my friends do - which usually is like "hey I bet you the Cowboys will win" and my friend will go "NUH UH!" and the bet is on. what the fuck is going on here with all these fucking numbers +8(-115)? does anybody do this? I am trying to learn this shit. Once I do I'll probably become addicted. I have sort of a gambling problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanie tuan Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 The numbers are the point spreads. Just start with low bets till you get the hang of it. Good luck or skill whatever you want to call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 My homies brother in law does this, he makes bank, he either bets on the game, or sells his info for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsmbfan Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 sells info for money? whats this nigga a referee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KARD like WOE Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 if dude has inside info.. or maybe hes just been playin real well people wanna know wat he knows... no way to be 100% every time but if your good at reading into it (stats blah blah blah) you usually come out on top.. if you really wanna gamble read the sports pages of your local paper.. every word of it.. see wat people are sayin see whos hot whos not injurys and all that...dont just jump into it.. youll prolly lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Overview of the more popular sportsbook wagers: Straight Bets Pick one team or one event The payoff for straight bets for a team to cover the point spread is at a ratio of $10 for every $11 bet. This means a bettor needs to pick 52.4% of all games correctly in order to break even (assuming the bet for each game is exactly the same). Straight bets can be made using either the point spread or the "money line". Pointspread Bets As stated earlier, the "line" is set for each game by the odds makers. Favorites will have a - (minus) sign followed by a number, while the underdogs will have a + (plus), followed by a number. Here's an example NFL line: Denver + 7 Kansas City -7 Denver is the favorite and must win by 8 points or more to win. If they win by exactly 7 points, the game is a "push" or tie, and you get the amount of your bet back. If Denver wins by 6 points or less, or loses the game, then those that bet on KC will win the money. A lot of times you'll see a 1/2 point, for example Denver is -7 1/2 points. This eliminates "pushes" since a team can't score 1/2 a point. Sometimes you'll see games where the spread is "Pick" or "PK". That means the line is 0 and no points are in effect...just pick the winner. Point spread bets can be either "straight" or "parlay" bets. Moneyline Bets Here, the point spread isn't a factor, as you only choose the winners of games. Since not all teams are created equal, everyone would bet on the best teams. So, the casinos offer benefits for betting on bad teams, while giving a penalty for betting on the good teams. These benefits and penalties are in the form of odds. Let's take a look at a typical money line for the Denver/KC game above. Denver -175 KC +200 Notice the '+' and '-' signs. The '-' sign for Denver means if you bet $175 on Denver, as the favorite, you would only win $100 (plus your original bet). If you took the underdog, KC, and bet $100, if KC won, you'd win $200 (plus your original bet). If everything was totally even, both the + and - numbers should be even. The differences in these numbers is where the casinos get their "rake", or profit. In our example, they are taking in $200, but only paying out $175. Over/Under Bets Here's a very popular bet among many football gamblers. You're betting on whether the total points scored by both teams will be more or less than the number posted. For example: Denver/KC: Total = 43 This means after the game, add up the total points BOTH Denver and KC scored. If the total is 44 or more and you bet the "over", you're a winner! But, if both teams scored less than that, you'll lose your wager. Your payoff is also $10 for every $11 wagered, since over/unders are considered straight bets. However, you can bet an over/under as part of a parlay. Parlay Bets This is a bet where more than one event must happen in order for you to win your bet. Since it's harder to predict multiple events than it is for a single event, you'll get paid more than "even money" if you win a parlay. A parlay is most often bet using the point spread for two or more games. Let's use the "lines" for the following two games: Game 1: Denver -7 KC +7 Game 2: Dallas -3 San Fran +3 Our "two teamer" may be Denver for game one and San Fran for game two for our "two-team parlay". If Denver wins by 8 points or more AND San Fran either loses by less than 3 points or wins, then we'll win our parlay. Any other result, and we lose. Over/unders can also be a part of a parlay. Say the over/under is 43 for the Denver game, we may make a parlay of "Denver and Over"...meaning if Denver wins by more than 7 points AND all the points scored in the game by BOTH teams is more than 43 points, we win our parlay. Or, we can have a four team parlay, betting only over/unders. Any combinations is fine...You want 3 over/unders and 3 point spread bets for a 6 teamer? It's all up to you. It's very easy to get a couple of parlay's in for a single Monday Night Football game. Bet the point spread and over/under for the first half, then another parlay for the point spread and over/under in the second half. Yes...many online sportsbooks even have lines and over/unders for each half!!! Usually, ties will cause you to lose a parlay, unlike straight bets, were ties are a push and you get your original wager returned. There are a few sportsbooks offering "ties win" parlay cards, but usually give slightly lower payouts in exchange. Parlays can offer the gambler some serious excitement, since the payouts for a multi-team parlay can be very high. Teasers A teaser is very similar to a parlay and is played the same way. The big difference is that you get to add points to your team's point spread. In the case of Denver being -7 for a parlay or a straight bet, we get to add (usually) 6 points for a teaser. In this case it means Denver is now only -1, instead of having to win by 7 points. In exchange for the extra points, Teasers don't pay odds as high as parlays give. This translates into more frequent wins, as compared to parlays, but for less money each win. If you're the type of person that just wants a little amusement, and wants fewer "ups and downs"...try a teaser. If you're looking for action and the "big score", play the parlays. Future Bets At the beginning of a season, the play-offs, or tournaments, sportsbooks will give odds for a team or player to be the ultimate winner. In football, the Rams were about 4 to 1 at the beginning of the 2006 season to win the Super Bowl. What a difference a year makes! The year before, the Rams were something like 250 to 1 ... making them one of the biggest upset winners in history. Betting $100 on the Rams to win the 2000 Super Bowl would have won you about $25,000. The odds will change as the season or tournament progresses...but the odds at the time of your bet will remain in effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnerCityRebel Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 beat the house on your first bet. You will win it is called beginners luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackfatsoe Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 everybody in the kitchen and some of the foh staff at my job all use the same bookie. serious money changes hands every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 sells info for money? whats this nigga a referee? haha nah, like who he thinks is going to win and by how much, like his spread sheet or whatever. people pay pretty big money for that shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnerCityRebel Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 T;7002125']Overview of the more popular sportsbook wagers: Straight Bets Pick one team or one event The payoff for straight bets for a team to cover the point spread is at a ratio of $10 for every $11 bet. This means a bettor needs to pick 52.4% of all games correctly in order to break even (assuming the bet for each game is exactly the same). Straight bets can be made using either the point spread or the "money line". Pointspread Bets As stated earlier, the "line" is set for each game by the odds makers. Favorites will have a - (minus) sign followed by a number, while the underdogs will have a + (plus), followed by a number. Here's an example NFL line: Denver + 7 Kansas City -7 Denver is the favorite and must win by 8 points or more to win. If they win by exactly 7 points, the game is a "push" or tie, and you get the amount of your bet back. If Denver wins by 6 points or less, or loses the game, then those that bet on KC will win the money. A lot of times you'll see a 1/2 point, for example Denver is -7 1/2 points. This eliminates "pushes" since a team can't score 1/2 a point. Sometimes you'll see games where the spread is "Pick" or "PK". That means the line is 0 and no points are in effect...just pick the winner. Point spread bets can be either "straight" or "parlay" bets. Moneyline Bets Here, the point spread isn't a factor, as you only choose the winners of games. Since not all teams are created equal, everyone would bet on the best teams. So, the casinos offer benefits for betting on bad teams, while giving a penalty for betting on the good teams. These benefits and penalties are in the form of odds. Let's take a look at a typical money line for the Denver/KC game above. Denver -175 KC +200 Notice the '+' and '-' signs. The '-' sign for Denver means if you bet $175 on Denver, as the favorite, you would only win $100 (plus your original bet). If you took the underdog, KC, and bet $100, if KC won, you'd win $200 (plus your original bet). If everything was totally even, both the + and - numbers should be even. The differences in these numbers is where the casinos get their "rake", or profit. In our example, they are taking in $200, but only paying out $175. Over/Under Bets Here's a very popular bet among many football gamblers. You're betting on whether the total points scored by both teams will be more or less than the number posted. For example: Denver/KC: Total = 43 This means after the game, add up the total points BOTH Denver and KC scored. If the total is 44 or more and you bet the "over", you're a winner! But, if both teams scored less than that, you'll lose your wager. Your payoff is also $10 for every $11 wagered, since over/unders are considered straight bets. However, you can bet an over/under as part of a parlay. Parlay Bets This is a bet where more than one event must happen in order for you to win your bet. Since it's harder to predict multiple events than it is for a single event, you'll get paid more than "even money" if you win a parlay. A parlay is most often bet using the point spread for two or more games. Let's use the "lines" for the following two games: Game 1: Denver -7 KC +7 Game 2: Dallas -3 San Fran +3 Our "two teamer" may be Denver for game one and San Fran for game two for our "two-team parlay". If Denver wins by 8 points or more AND San Fran either loses by less than 3 points or wins, then we'll win our parlay. Any other result, and we lose. Over/unders can also be a part of a parlay. Say the over/under is 43 for the Denver game, we may make a parlay of "Denver and Over"...meaning if Denver wins by more than 7 points AND all the points scored in the game by BOTH teams is more than 43 points, we win our parlay. Or, we can have a four team parlay, betting only over/unders. Any combinations is fine...You want 3 over/unders and 3 point spread bets for a 6 teamer? It's all up to you. It's very easy to get a couple of parlay's in for a single Monday Night Football game. Bet the point spread and over/under for the first half, then another parlay for the point spread and over/under in the second half. Yes...many online sportsbooks even have lines and over/unders for each half!!! Usually, ties will cause you to lose a parlay, unlike straight bets, were ties are a push and you get your original wager returned. There are a few sportsbooks offering "ties win" parlay cards, but usually give slightly lower payouts in exchange. Parlays can offer the gambler some serious excitement, since the payouts for a multi-team parlay can be very high. Teasers A teaser is very similar to a parlay and is played the same way. The big difference is that you get to add points to your team's point spread. In the case of Denver being -7 for a parlay or a straight bet, we get to add (usually) 6 points for a teaser. In this case it means Denver is now only -1, instead of having to win by 7 points. In exchange for the extra points, Teasers don't pay odds as high as parlays give. This translates into more frequent wins, as compared to parlays, but for less money each win. If you're the type of person that just wants a little amusement, and wants fewer "ups and downs"...try a teaser. If you're looking for action and the "big score", play the parlays. Future Bets At the beginning of a season, the play-offs, or tournaments, sportsbooks will give odds for a team or player to be the ultimate winner. In football, the Rams were about 4 to 1 at the beginning of the 2006 season to win the Super Bowl. What a difference a year makes! The year before, the Rams were something like 250 to 1 ... making them one of the biggest upset winners in history. Betting $100 on the Rams to win the 2000 Super Bowl would have won you about $25,000. The odds will change as the season or tournament progresses...but the odds at the time of your bet will remain in effect. verY well said P... I was gonna do a parley when the Bears and Colts played in the super bowl a few years ago. IF iwould have done it my 100 bucks would have been something well over 10000 grand. I still talk shit to my boy to this day for talking me out of it.. I was gonna bet Bears to win Coin Toss, Bears to score first and Hester to return first kick off for TD. Of course it all started with the kickoff and Hester. When that shit happen iwas thrilled yet upset.. What i ended up doing was bet the Bears to cover the spread.. I fucking lost that bet... In betting though that is how it goes you got ups and you got downs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxRoach Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 i do this every week. mainly nfl and ncaa tournaments. i use http://www.sportsinteraction.com/ edit: and boxing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsmbfan Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 thank you. this clears up the confusion. tie goes to the runner type of deal, i see now. except on parlays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Why you betting online, you don't know a bookie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxRoach Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 i had a bookie. he got pissed at me after the giants/patriots superbowl.... that's when i started doing it online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM4RT Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 When I get home drunk with no pussy and can't sleep, I bet on horse racing in Hong Kong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosluggo Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Ill take your bets. Seriously Parlays, teasers, buying points most props are sucker bets. Play it straight and DONT CHASE if you do get down more than you can afford, which you shouldn't be anyway. If you bet through a book that can and most likely will happen. For online i think they take your money first, then let you bet. And i heard sometimes it takes weeks or months for them to send you a check, but if you lose, or course they take it right away. If you can, get an offshore account through a book around where you live. Phone guys are pretty nonexistant nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdork Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 T;7002125']Overview of the more popular sportsbook wagers: Straight Bets Pick one team or one event The payoff for straight bets for a team to cover the point spread is at a ratio of $10 for every $11 bet. This means a bettor needs to pick 52.4% of all games correctly in order to break even (assuming the bet for each game is exactly the same). Straight bets can be made using either the point spread or the "money line". Pointspread Bets As stated earlier, the "line" is set for each game by the odds makers. Favorites will have a - (minus) sign followed by a number, while the underdogs will have a + (plus), followed by a number. Here's an example NFL line: Denver + 7 Kansas City -7 Denver is the favorite and must win by 8 points or more to win. If they win by exactly 7 points, the game is a "push" or tie, and you get the amount of your bet back. If Denver wins by 6 points or less, or loses the game, then those that bet on KC will win the money. A lot of times you'll see a 1/2 point, for example Denver is -7 1/2 points. This eliminates "pushes" since a team can't score 1/2 a point. Sometimes you'll see games where the spread is "Pick" or "PK". That means the line is 0 and no points are in effect...just pick the winner. Point spread bets can be either "straight" or "parlay" bets. Moneyline Bets Here, the point spread isn't a factor, as you only choose the winners of games. Since not all teams are created equal, everyone would bet on the best teams. So, the casinos offer benefits for betting on bad teams, while giving a penalty for betting on the good teams. These benefits and penalties are in the form of odds. Let's take a look at a typical money line for the Denver/KC game above. Denver -175 KC +200 Notice the '+' and '-' signs. The '-' sign for Denver means if you bet $175 on Denver, as the favorite, you would only win $100 (plus your original bet). If you took the underdog, KC, and bet $100, if KC won, you'd win $200 (plus your original bet). If everything was totally even, both the + and - numbers should be even. The differences in these numbers is where the casinos get their "rake", or profit. In our example, they are taking in $200, but only paying out $175. Over/Under Bets Here's a very popular bet among many football gamblers. You're betting on whether the total points scored by both teams will be more or less than the number posted. For example: Denver/KC: Total = 43 This means after the game, add up the total points BOTH Denver and KC scored. If the total is 44 or more and you bet the "over", you're a winner! But, if both teams scored less than that, you'll lose your wager. Your payoff is also $10 for every $11 wagered, since over/unders are considered straight bets. However, you can bet an over/under as part of a parlay. Parlay Bets This is a bet where more than one event must happen in order for you to win your bet. Since it's harder to predict multiple events than it is for a single event, you'll get paid more than "even money" if you win a parlay. A parlay is most often bet using the point spread for two or more games. Let's use the "lines" for the following two games: Game 1: Denver -7 KC +7 Game 2: Dallas -3 San Fran +3 Our "two teamer" may be Denver for game one and San Fran for game two for our "two-team parlay". If Denver wins by 8 points or more AND San Fran either loses by less than 3 points or wins, then we'll win our parlay. Any other result, and we lose. Over/unders can also be a part of a parlay. Say the over/under is 43 for the Denver game, we may make a parlay of "Denver and Over"...meaning if Denver wins by more than 7 points AND all the points scored in the game by BOTH teams is more than 43 points, we win our parlay. Or, we can have a four team parlay, betting only over/unders. Any combinations is fine...You want 3 over/unders and 3 point spread bets for a 6 teamer? It's all up to you. It's very easy to get a couple of parlay's in for a single Monday Night Football game. Bet the point spread and over/under for the first half, then another parlay for the point spread and over/under in the second half. Yes...many online sportsbooks even have lines and over/unders for each half!!! Usually, ties will cause you to lose a parlay, unlike straight bets, were ties are a push and you get your original wager returned. There are a few sportsbooks offering "ties win" parlay cards, but usually give slightly lower payouts in exchange. Parlays can offer the gambler some serious excitement, since the payouts for a multi-team parlay can be very high. Teasers A teaser is very similar to a parlay and is played the same way. The big difference is that you get to add points to your team's point spread. In the case of Denver being -7 for a parlay or a straight bet, we get to add (usually) 6 points for a teaser. In this case it means Denver is now only -1, instead of having to win by 7 points. In exchange for the extra points, Teasers don't pay odds as high as parlays give. This translates into more frequent wins, as compared to parlays, but for less money each win. If you're the type of person that just wants a little amusement, and wants fewer "ups and downs"...try a teaser. If you're looking for action and the "big score", play the parlays. Future Bets At the beginning of a season, the play-offs, or tournaments, sportsbooks will give odds for a team or player to be the ultimate winner. In football, the Rams were about 4 to 1 at the beginning of the 2006 season to win the Super Bowl. What a difference a year makes! The year before, the Rams were something like 250 to 1 ... making them one of the biggest upset winners in history. Betting $100 on the Rams to win the 2000 Super Bowl would have won you about $25,000. The odds will change as the season or tournament progresses...but the odds at the time of your bet will remain in effect. Im confused, you said the favorite has a - sign, and Denver was the favorite but they had a + sign next to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Moneyline is different than the point spread. Point spread has the - sign cause they have to win by whatever the minus sign has in front of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 01/03/10 301 Indianapolis(Colts) +330 +10 Over 33 13:00 ET 302 Buffalo(Bills) -420 -10 (even) Under 33 01/03/10 303 NewOrleans(Saints) OFF OFF OFF 13:00 ET 304 Carolina(Panthers) OFF OFF OFF 01/03/10 305 Jacksonville(Jaguars) -112 -1 (-105) Over 36 13:00 ET 306 Cleveland(Browns) -108 +1 (-105) Under 36 01/03/10 307 Philadelphia(Eagles) +140 +3 (-105) Over 47.5 16:15 ET 308 Dallas(Cowboys) -160 -3 (-105) Under 47.5 01/03/10 309 Chicago(Bears) -165 -3 Over 45 13:00 ET 310 Detroit(Lions) +145 +3 (even) Under 45 01/03/10 311 NewEngland(Patriots) +330 +8.5 (-105) Over 46 13:00 ET 312 Houston(Texans) -420 -8.5 (-105) Under 46 01/03/10 313 Pittsburgh(Steelers) -180 -3 Over 46 13:00 ET 314 Miami(Dolphins) +160 +3 (even) Under 46 01/03/10 315 NewYork(Giants) +340 +9.5 (-105) Over 47.5 13:00 ET 316 Minnesota(Vikings) -440 -9.5 (-105) Under 47.5 01/03/10 317 Cincinnati(Bengals) +450 +10.5 (-105) Over 35.5 20:25 ET 318 NewYork(Jets) -600 -10.5 (-105) Under 35.5 01/03/10 319 SanFrancisco(49ers) -340 -7.5 (-105) Over 40.5 13:00 ET 320 StLouis(Rams) +270 +7.5 (-105) Under 40.5 01/03/10 321 Atlanta(Falcons) -130 -2 (-105) Over 41.5 13:00 ET 322 TampaBay(Buccaneers) +110 +2 (-105) Under 41.5 01/03/10 323 GreenBay(Packers) +175 +3.5 Over 44 16:15 ET 324 Arizona(Cardinals) -210 -3.5 (even) Under 44 01/03/10 325 KansasCity(Chiefs) +450 +11.5 (-105) Over 38 16:15 ET 326 Denver(Broncos) -600 -11.5 (-105) Under 38 01/03/10 327 Baltimore(Ravens) -550 -10 (-105) Over 38 16:15 ET 328 Oakland(Raiders) +425 +10 (-105) Under 38 01/03/10 329 Washington(Redskins) +165 +3.5 (-105) Over 38.5 16:15 ET 330 SanDiego(Chargers) -190 -3.5 (-105) Under 38.5 01/03/10 331 Tennessee(Titans) -220 -4.5 Over 45.5 16:15 ET 332 Seattle(Seahawks) +180 +4.5 (even) Under 45.5 PICKS: 0 There are alot of games that look like good picks this weekend in red is what i would play. I might do a 4 pick Parley alor of good spreads and over unders this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 I would have went 5/3 on those picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosluggo Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 I was going to ask what you took, but figured nobody was ever going to look at this thread again. Good week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 I would have bet but got too caught up in my fantasy team to even do a parlay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsmbfan Posted January 7, 2010 Author Share Posted January 7, 2010 Why you betting online, you don't know a bookie? no. where the fuck do you find one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 The thing is, it's not like the betting me and my friends do - which usually is like "hey I bet you the Cowboys will win" and my friend will go "NUH UH!" and the bet is on. :lol: this is so old school! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poesia [ ] T Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 So as a Statue of Liberty Maskot how much of that paycheck going to Gambling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampFightOner Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 no. where the fuck do you find one? Literally ANY bar where old Irish people hang out will have a bookie on deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justincox Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Does anybody do this? I've been checking out Bodog.com, it seems to have the most commercials on TV. The thing is, it's not like the betting me and my friends do - which usually is like "hey I bet you the Cowboys will win" and my friend will go "NUH UH!" and the bet is on. what the fuck is going on here with all these fucking numbers +8(-115)? does anybody do this? I am trying to learn this shit. Once I do I'll probably become addicted. I have sort of a gambling problem. Hi Friend, If gambling is frustrating you can go for sports betting which I think is more interesting then gambling and chance of getting returns is more better then gambling. If you want more details about Sports Betting you can get it at Sports Betting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screaming hand logo Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 cool first post bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsmbfan Posted May 6, 2010 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 im not your friend, pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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