the retired king. Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Hey sf1 i take it that you may not support the trends he set. for one he mad nas's whole career money when he was a hustler. money is not the issue. two he put platnium on the map as well as bringing out rose gold and putting gold back on the map. white air ones aka hova's,vest over the white tee,throwback jerseys wit the macthing fitted hat,two way pagers, maybachs, jacobb wacthes, he is the reason why niggas stop buying 4.0's(range rover), hat cock cant see who it is , DO YOU WANT ME TO GO ON? the president of def jam holla....................... 2PACK...... YOU GOT TO BE KIDDIN ME RIGHT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYVE IN 215 Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 problem wit hip hop now is that nobody does they own shit nomore... everybody gotta get wit somebody else on a collab to get a track released. CAN SOMEBODY PLEEEEASE KILL LIL JON? there's only so much jockin one genre can take. gimme dat beat fool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYVE IN 215 Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by juspix@Feb 16 2005, 11:22 PM sorry..... Quoted post what's the step say below kaex?... nice X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by the retired king.@Feb 17 2005, 04:33 AM Hey sf1 i take it that you may not support the trends he set. for one he mad nas's whole career money when he was a hustler. money is not the issue. two he put platnium on the map as well as bringing out rose gold and putting gold back on the map. white air ones aka hova's,vest over the white tee,throwback jerseys wit the macthing fitted hat,two way pagers, maybachs, jacobb wacthes, he is the reason why niggas stop buying 4.0's(range rover), hat cock cant see who it is , DO YOU WANT ME TO GO ON? the president of def jam holla....................... Quoted post And what exactly does your point have to do with MUSIC??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1 Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by LYVE IN 215@Feb 17 2005, 04:56 AM CAN SOMEBODY PLEEEEASE KILL LIL JON? Quoted post :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracksmoka Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 I got the tiny tim reference if no one else did frijoles... :haha: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanie Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by the retired king.@Feb 17 2005, 12:33 AM Hey sf1 i take it that you may not support the trends he set. for one he mad nas's whole career money when he was a hustler. money is not the issue. two he put platnium on the map as well as bringing out rose gold and putting gold back on the map. white air ones aka hova's,vest over the white tee,throwback jerseys wit the macthing fitted hat,two way pagers, maybachs, jacobb wacthes, he is the reason why niggas stop buying 4.0's(range rover), hat cock cant see who it is , DO YOU WANT ME TO GO ON? the president of def jam holla....................... 2PACK...... YOU GOT TO BE KIDDIN ME RIGHT? Quoted post i swear i wasnt about to feed into this unrelated ass discussion until i read this. were you makin a point about jay being a better rapper?? trendsetting doesnt equal good music. if he just wants to set trends he can be a model....(not that thats gonna work for him) dont get me wrong tho, jay has skills, the problem is he's just not using them. whats wrong with pac?? you cant fuck with it cuz he was actually saying something without providing you a trend to hop on? i would LOVE to kill lil jon. YAAAAAAEEEEEYYYAH!! :skull: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frijoles Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Can we PLEASE talk about some "REAL" music again....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frijoles Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Let's talk about TRUTH here..... these people were all TRENDSETTERS, ( musically speaking), hip-hop, rap, what have you, doesn't matter, those who do what they do and do it with heart and soul shine through and all of those crusty stale turds eventually wither away and blow off in the wind like the lifeless carbon based beings that they be....... a true gangsta below, listen to the lyrics for I can't be satisfied to see what I mean... these are just a few, not necessary to claim number one, there are many and they were all great, but only because they made massive contributions to the world of pop music, MUSICALLY. Why even waste time disecting someone as trivial as Jay Z? Just cause he's hugely popular doe not mean he is a great talent, for similar reference see; RIght Said Fred, Rick Astely, Kenny G, Garth Brooks, MC Hammer, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GucciCondom Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 fuck that mainstream shit you can't trust it these days with all these ghostwriters and jocks. jedi mind april 2nd---> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelkaemoney Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 man fuck jay-z..he was cool for reasonal doubt..maybe in my life 1..but after that he became a slave to the industry like everyone else..and he did bite mad shit over the years..he aint the only as someone stated that bites shit..but noone bites/bit shit the way jay did/does..i mean just think about the dude who jay got the name from jaz-o(this was his first bite)fuck him and his platinum..cars..and all that shit..i been tired of listening to the dumb shit..nas aint off the hook either though for all them concious songs that he does he has had a bunch of dumb commercial shit too..(OOchie Wally)<<<case and point... thats why i try to stick wit the real niggas such as d.i.t.c...any dj premiere shit..big l..smif-n-wesun(cocoa brovaz)all the duckdown artists..the leak bros..the alchemist..dj babu..dilated..bumpy knucks..raekwon..ghostface..rza..theodore unit..and so on..this is real music in my opinion.. fuck this commercial shit(whenevr possible)..i do appreciate lyrical content that doesnt involve private jets..maybachs..and all that bullshit that I myself aint ever gonna see in my lifetime.. heres my 2cents for the am.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 also on jay-z's name...there was a dj down with saafir and the hobo junction out in california named jay-z years ago. he's shouted out numerous times on boxcar sessions...dunno if it's related but shit, he stole everyone else's shit, why not his? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war pigs Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 jay-z's original name was jay'z (jays) tho...if you peep him on that hawaiian sophie track or that original flavor track "can i get open" that was out back in the day.. reasonable doubt is a classic album but after that (96 / 97), the music in general, not just from him, but for everyone else in the industry really turned from making good music towards making a commodity...hip hop's all about money these days, nothing else... i mean..dood even admits it in a track on the black album..it's kinda fucked up... "i dumbed down for my audience doubled my dollars they criticize me yet they all yell holla if skillz sold truth be told i probably be lyrically talib kweli truthfully i wanna rhyme like common sense but i did 5 mics i ain't been rhymin like common since" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digs Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 as far as the lyrics and so called biting any dre lyrics dont count cuz Jayz wrote alot for dre the biggie stuff dont count cuz he makes it known that he loves big and its done out of respect and not a bite he makes great music can flow better then 99% of cats i still dont understand how heads can hate on him but to each his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Lightyear Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Here we go again. One thing i can say about Jay is he is a clever dude. Anytime someone can make you believe BITING is cool. For money who said raekwon and ghost dont do maintstream shit. Umm ICECREAM ,Chez Chez La Ghost. Just a few. Jay still says SOME hot shit every now and then without any help. But how much of biggies ryhmes gonna come out he fat lips. (hahahaha) Had to throw that one in there. Just another point. He says Nas's It was written was EHHH. But if i can recall it came out the same summer as Jay-z supposed "BEST" album and cats didnt even pay it no mine till he re-released it some 3 or 4 years later. I can go one for days but..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flix Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 the J and the Z subway train rolls through marcy projects,i guess thats where he got his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartySchemeR Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by Digs@Feb 17 2005, 09:42 AM as far as the lyrics and so called biting any dre lyrics dont count cuz Jayz wrote alot for dre the biggie stuff dont count cuz he makes it known that he loves big and its done out of respect and not a bite he makes great music can flow better then 99% of cats i still dont understand how heads can hate on him but to each his own Quoted post U got to be jokin right. Any one who byts big or pac lines is striat trash. there are madd heads out there who were boys with big that rhyme but do u see them using evry other line he said. Pac hated him. NAS destroyed him! lil wanye sux cope said it best if ur gonna byte at least byte some 1 whos sick. and this jus means SEAN CARTER to JAY Z man u on JAZ dick! :clown2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShermHI Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Jay Z's hot, but SP the ghost is hotter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flix Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 yeah^no doubt THE GHOST IN THE SHELL. back to the graff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelkaemoney Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 nah lightyear i wasnt sayin it to say that none of the niggas i listed havent had "commercial" success at one time or another..but how many tracks off "only built for cuban links" or "supreme clientele" really got play like that..I mean if you look at it on a consistent basis the guys i named tend to dwell in the underground/mixtape scene but dont get me wrong you gotta eat right? I will say jayz is the black eminem..he could rap about to taking a shit while watchin 2 retarded chicks doin a porno with dogs..niggas would accept it 100% and say that shit is hot..see my point..but im done with this subject cause its..pointless..fruitless..and just flat out less.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSA Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 bump for that curve and esteme wall :king: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the retired king. Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by SF1+Feb 17 2005, 03:56 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SF1 - Feb 17 2005, 03:56 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-the retired king.@Feb 17 2005, 04:33 AM Hey sf1 i take it that you may not support the trends he set. for one he mad nas's whole career money when he was a hustler. money is not the issue. two he put platnium on the map as well as bringing out rose gold and putting gold back on the map. white air ones aka hova's,vest over the white tee,throwback jerseys wit the macthing fitted hat,two way pagers, maybachs, jacobb wacthes, he is the reason why niggas stop buying 4.0's(range rover), hat cock cant see who it is , DO YOU WANT ME TO GO ON? the president of def jam holla....................... Quoted post And what exactly does your point have to do with MUSIC??? Quoted post [/b] all his albums went platnium bottom line on top of trends..... thats my point...jay is SIK-nin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th3_monk Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 that green stands out nice with the silver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the retired king. Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 im no rapper so i dont care really but who is going to be king of 05? kings of the 2000's 2000- agua ????? 01- caem?? 02-imc ??? ideo 03-bmp & mask priz??? 04-kiw vs wcs/dvb/sik/prozak/mask&bmp priz???? 05- end seza perhaps ??? this is only what i think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermdog Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marker-cb Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 can someone explain why every new piece i see its going over someone else ,is no room left @ tha abandone building ,or underpass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelkaemoney Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by the retired king.@Feb 17 2005, 11:22 AM im no rapper so i dont care really but who is going to be king of 05? kings of the 2000's 2000- agua ????? 01- caem?? 02-imc ??? ideo 03-bmp & mask priz??? 04-kiw vs wcs/dvb/sik/prozak/mask&bmp priz???? 05- end seza perhaps ??? this is only what i think... Quoted post yea but you also forgot to leave a blank spot for the out-of-nowhere cat...like off the top of my head..am51 did a few years ago..or sik when he first showed up..there is always someone :king: .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger King Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 hell yeah curve esteme and my main man mast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niseNSF Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 its just like graff ...look how much hate jayz stirs up. if he was really wack yall could just ignore him. but he gets under your skin and he laughs all the way to the bank. dude is sick hes no g rap though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selfishone Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Not many know this but Jay-Z wouldnt of been shit without JAZ. Jay rode JAZ's coat tails to get into the industry. I have a JAZ record from like 87 and Jay is on the back in a gangsta pose with a crooked Box Fade,a 2o lb fake gold link,and a black turtleneck. Shit is Funny as hell. If I had a working scanner i'd post the shit. But i think he owes his entrance to the game to JAZ who he now disses when asked about . I respect Jay Z but ,i'd rather hear street stories then private Jets and caviar. Those Erupta fliks were nice.........Someone post some EMERGE.....its been a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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