Guest BROWNer Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 Now the Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us · Secret report warns of rioting and nuclear war · Britain will be 'Siberian' in less than 20 years · Threat to the world is greater than terrorism Key findings of the Pentagon Report · Future wars will be fought over the issue of survival rather than religion, ideology or national honor. · By 2007 violent storms smash coastal barriers rendering large parts of the Netherlands inhabitable. Cities like The Hague are abandoned. In California the delta island levees in the Sacramento river area are breached, disrupting the aqueduct system transporting water from north to south. · Between 2010 and 2020 Europe is hardest hit by climatic change with an average annual temperature drop of 6F. Climate in Britain becomes colder and drier as weather patterns begin to resemble Siberia. · Deaths from war and famine run into the millions until the planet's population is reduced by such an extent the Earth can cope. · Riots and internal conflict tear apart India, South Africa and Indonesia. · Access to water becomes a major battleground. The Nile, Danube and Amazon are all mentioned as being high risk. · A 'significant drop' in the planet's ability to sustain its present population will become apparent over the next 20 years. · Rich areas like the US and Europe would become 'virtual fortresses' to prevent millions of migrants from entering after being forced from land drowned by sea-level rise or no longer able to grow crops. Waves of boatpeople pose significant problems. · Nuclear arms proliferation is inevitable. Japan, South Korea, and Germany develop nuclear-weapons capabilities, as do Iran, Egypt and North Korea. Israel, China, India and Pakistan also are poised to use the bomb. · By 2010 the US and Europe will experience a third more days with peak temperatures above 90F. Climate becomes an 'economic nuisance' as storms, droughts and hot spells create havoc for farmers. · More than 400m people in subtropical regions at grave risk. · Europe will face huge internal struggles as it copes with massive numbers of migrants washing up on its shores. Immigrants from Scandinavia seek warmer climes to the south. Southern Europe is beleaguered by refugees from hard-hit countries in Africa. · Mega-droughts affect the world's major breadbaskets, including America's Midwest, where strong winds bring soil loss. · China's huge population and food demand make it particularly vulnerable. Bangladesh becomes nearly uninhabitable because of a rising sea level, which contaminates the inland water supplies. FULL STORY Mark Townsend and Paul Harris in New York Sunday February 22, 2004 The Observer http://observer.guardian.co.uk/internation...1153513,00.html Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters.. A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a 'Siberian' climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world. The document predicts that abrupt climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and energy supplies. The threat to global stability vastly eclipses that of terrorism, say the few experts privy to its contents. 'Disruption and conflict will be endemic features of life,' concludes the Pentagon analysis. 'Once again, warfare would define human life.' The findings will prove humiliating to the Bush administration, which has repeatedly denied that climate change even exists. Experts said that they will also make unsettling reading for a President who has insisted national defence is a priority. The report was commissioned by influential Pentagon defence adviser Andrew Marshall, who has held considerable sway on US military thinking over the past three decades. He was the man behind a sweeping recent review aimed at transforming the American military under Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Climate change 'should be elevated beyond a scientific debate to a US national security concern', say the authors, Peter Schwartz, CIA consultant and former head of planning at Royal Dutch/Shell Group, and Doug Randall of the California-based Global Business Network. An imminent scenario of catastrophic climate change is 'plausible and would challenge United States national security in ways that should be considered immediately', they conclude. As early as next year widespread flooding by a rise in sea levels will create major upheaval for millions. Last week the Bush administration came under heavy fire from a large body of respected scientists who claimed that it cherry-picked science to suit its policy agenda and suppressed studies that it did not like. Jeremy Symons, a former whistleblower at the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), said that suppression of the report for four months was a further example of the White House trying to bury the threat of climate change. Senior climatologists, however, believe that their verdicts could prove the catalyst in forcing Bush to accept climate change as a real and happening phenomenon. They also hope it will convince the United States to sign up to global treaties to reduce the rate of climatic change. A group of eminent UK scientists recently visited the White House to voice their fears over global warming, part of an intensifying drive to get the US to treat the issue seriously. Sources have told The Observer that American officials appeared extremely sensitive about the issue when faced with complaints that America's public stance appeared increasingly out of touch. One even alleged that the White House had written to complain about some of the comments attributed to Professor Sir David King, Tony Blair's chief scientific adviser, after he branded the President's position on the issue as indefensible. Among those scientists present at the White House talks were Professor John Schellnhuber, former chief environmental adviser to the German government and head of the UK's leading group of climate scientists at the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research. He said that the Pentagon's internal fears should prove the 'tipping point' in persuading Bush to accept climatic change. Sir John Houghton, former chief executive of the Meteorological Office - and the first senior figure to liken the threat of climate change to that of terrorism - said: 'If the Pentagon is sending out that sort of message, then this is an important document indeed.' Bob Watson, chief scientist for the World Bank and former chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, added that the Pentagon's dire warnings could no longer be ignored. 'Can Bush ignore the Pentagon? It's going be hard to blow off this sort of document. Its hugely embarrassing. After all, Bush's single highest priority is national defence. The Pentagon is no wacko, liberal group, generally speaking it is conservative. If climate change is a threat to national security and the economy, then he has to act. There are two groups the Bush Administration tend to listen to, the oil lobby and the Pentagon,' added Watson. 'You've got a President who says global warming is a hoax, and across the Potomac river you've got a Pentagon preparing for climate wars. It's pretty scary when Bush starts to ignore his own government on this issue,' said Rob Gueterbock of Greenpeace. Already, according to Randall and Schwartz, the planet is carrying a higher population than it can sustain. By 2020 'catastrophic' shortages of water and energy supply will become increasingly harder to overcome, plunging the planet into war. They warn that 8,200 years ago climatic conditions brought widespread crop failure, famine, disease and mass migration of populations that could soon be repeated. Randall told The Observer that the potential ramifications of rapid climate change would create global chaos. 'This is depressing stuff,' he said. 'It is a national security threat that is unique because there is no enemy to point your guns at and we have no control over the threat.' Randall added that it was already possibly too late to prevent a disaster happening. 'We don't know exactly where we are in the process. It could start tomorrow and we would not know for another five years,' he said. 'The consequences for some nations of the climate change are unbelievable. It seems obvious that cutting the use of fossil fuels would be worthwhile.' So dramatic are the report's scenarios, Watson said, that they may prove vital in the US elections. Democratic frontrunner John Kerry is known to accept climate change as a real problem. Scientists disillusioned with Bush's stance are threatening to make sure Kerry uses the Pentagon report in his campaign. The fact that Marshall is behind its scathing findings will aid Kerry's cause. Marshall, 82, is a Pentagon legend who heads a secretive think-tank dedicated to weighing risks to national security called the Office of Net Assessment. Dubbed 'Yoda' by Pentagon insiders who respect his vast experience, he is credited with being behind the Department of Defence's push on ballistic-missile defence. Symons, who left the EPA in protest at political interference, said that the suppression of the report was a further instance of the White House trying to bury evidence of climate change. 'It is yet another example of why this government should stop burying its head in the sand on this issue.' Symons said the Bush administration's close links to high-powered energy and oil companies was vital in understanding why climate change was received sceptically in the Oval Office. 'This administration is ignoring the evidence in order to placate a handful of large energy and oil companies,' he added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caL Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 so this is...real? well if it is, theres not much you can do anyways. someone start a countdown :beat2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esp Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 harsh barge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 WOW! This is actually a major issue now? I've been following the reports of the Concerned Scientists for some years now but this level of attention is plausible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimsøn Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 :rolleyes: We'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish son Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 WWIII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 What the fuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 It's good to see that Britain is getting back to it's old reputation of being the most free press in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 Hahaha... The pentagon punched bush in the kisser! hahahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chicken bone Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 Wow, what a great way to start my day. Uh.. So I guess the end is near. Either that or a huge revolution is going to take place, and the world is going to turn into a very different place at the end of 50 years. This is some weird stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr430n5_666 Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 http://www.kak.ru/images/archive/13-14/dom/DOMdesember07_2.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casekonly Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 i don't care. sounds like a waterpark to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BROWNer Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 does anyone else find some of the language used a little over-the-top alarmist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 alarmist? Perhaps... but then again this is an alarming situation. These reports are nothing new, they are accurate and verified data provided by scientists the world over who have been warning of these consequences for many years. What is the exact name of their board? The Organization of Concerned Scientists? Something like that. Well there are reports of these trends everywhere. Why just a matter of months ago the largest ice shelf in the artic split off.... a chunk of ice the size of France was floating away not long after this happend.... The news is everywhere. This is just a small example of our problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallix Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 this was planned from the beginning. part of the nwo is to reduce the earth's population. then put the remaining people into concentration type camps. weather controller machines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BROWNer Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 for the sake of argument.. a) over-the-top alarmist language: "uk will be 'siberian'"(*by this i mean, siberia has a certain connotation..a harsh, uninhabitable wasteland of permafrost..alarmist), "climate change will 'destroy us'" etcetry. science is NOT absolute. this is a 'hypothetical' forecast, and though plausible, is not a reality ahead of the fact. B) please explain how this was 'planned from the beginning'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TresOne Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 Word, according to that map, canada is in the clear. (for the most part) Ha, bitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallix Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 ok so maybe it was not "planned" purposely. but i find it hard to believe we aren't using hydrogen yet, or renewable resources. we are already fighting war's for energy. the problem is only going to get worse soon. and could it be the elite have known about the reprecussions of mass consumption of fossil fuel? have you ever read the gaia theory? if not do so, it interesting. fossil fuel consumption needs to stop asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekro Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 May we all live in interesting times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.T Boy Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 remember in 1985 when we thought in the year 2000 wed have FLYING CARS!!!!!!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 In A.D. 2101, war was begining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Æ° Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 I find comfort in the idea that the end of the world may occur in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunm Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 three words: Canned Food Stockpile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 well, at least australia isn't getting anally raped too hard by mother nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12centProfit Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 we're all fuckedz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETO Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by T.T Boy remember in 1985 when we thought in the year 2000 wed have FLYING CARS!!!!!!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
why write? Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 ^ hah, some crazy news....but the whole world is just a big lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaCosaNostra Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 everybody go peep my Armageddon thread! =>>>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caL Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 why worry about something you cant control. fuck it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Originally posted by bute i think i will enjoy it. haha and abc were already getting raped by mother nature. about half our continent is inhabitable. yet we still have the best county.:crazy: it's been like that for eons though. that isn't a recent thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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