KaBar Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 Sometimes I read shit on here that just amazes the shit out of me. I think of my own experiences as not being all that different from the rest of my generation, and I think of myself as just being kind of Joe Average Boomer, but when I read stuff like Moe Lester not going to the doctor because he doesn't have insurance, I get this sort of "Who TRAINED you motherfuckers for life, anyway?" Truth is, probably: NOBODY. Everybody with "NO DAD," raise your hand. That's what I fucking thought. You can put your hands down now. Okay. First things first. The idea is to live life as well as you can, and to be happy and satisfied. You want to be an intelligent, worldly, somewhat sophisticated person who has compassion for others and who reaches a condition in Life that roughly approximates Maslow's "self actualization" level in his Hierarchy of Needs. If you've never heard of Maslow or his goddammed needs, don't worry. Maslow and Erikson will dog your every step in college, so you can defer worrying about them until then. Basic needs first: Oxygen. Gotta have it. A satisfying sex life don't mean shit if you are gasping for every breath. (SMOKERS TAKE HEED and I ain't lyin'.) Water. Food. Clothes and Shelter. SAFETY. Once you got the basics, then you can start elaborating. Love. Affection. Education. Meaningful Work. Spirtual Enlightenment. ART. Bottom line, you can't expect people to be compassionate towards others if they are hungry all the time. You can't expect people to work on their relationship with their conception of God, or Nature or Whatever if they are subject to being beaten or raped or emotionally tortured. It's just not very likely to occur. If you are fighting for your life, you don't have time or energy for "enlightenment." It's all about "eliminating that threat to my life, and by any goddam means necessary." You can worry about God once you got Hitler safe in the ground. What I have in mind here is some frank discussion about HOW TO SURVIVE and I'm not talking about making fire with a bow drill. LET'S HEAR IT. What a ya got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitchAssSlut Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 just give me a a massive bank account.... anna kournakova.. and a body dropped blazer.. and i'll be set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dazzle Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 What about those of us that have actually had to write thesis papers on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs? Hmmm....guess we're all not as degenerate as you thought...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar Posted October 20, 2002 Author Share Posted October 20, 2002 Yo, Dazz And maybe I'm not as stuffy and middle class as you think I am, either. (Ahem.) The subject is Survival, I believe. Whadaya got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bug Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 1. throw out your credit cards kids. if you don't have the money right now, it means you can't buy it! me and so many people my age are already in huge debt by mid twenties because we always assumed we would have well paying jobs after college. starting your life out living hand to mouth for luxuries when you were younger really is not worth it. 2. maintain healthy relationships with people. I go out of my way to make the people i chose to spend my time with happy. if you chose the right people to be around, they will reciprocate. i will no longer invest time into people who do not put the same effort that i put forth. its just a waste of my time, and makes me cynical. don't let people use you, and use other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 i get along in life i have a career that has been around for ages upon ages and wont be going anywhere anytime soon. i have healthy relationships with people (for the most part) and i have planned for my future and will make adjustments as needed as bug said i dont overspend, credit cards are the devils work i do smoke i guess that cuts my survival down a bit but i would like to think that i have the means to survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sneak Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 kabar, your like a father to this site. :idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven.13 Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 -When renting an apartment..go over the contract very carefully, make sure there IS an actual contract. -Travel. You will learn many, many things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Europe Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 Life is very short, be carefull what you spend your time doing. Take some chances otherwise you will regret it. And travel as much as possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest post. Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 don't have insurance? ...don't forget to floss your teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Mang Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 always have a backup plan for living. be prepared at all times. always be aware of options and weigh them. the less you have the more you appreciate. and oftentimes you are much happier that way. and probably the most important lesson i have heard from everyone on this board is : keep your head up. keep busy - whatever it is. sitting at home alone makes you think way too much sometimes. then its all downhill from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poop Man Bob Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 When you go to bed at night, be happy. If not, stay up and try to resolve whatever is bothering you .. be it a lack of getting shit done, problems with relationships, etc. The Golden Rule actually works quite well - "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." It seems pretty straight forward, and it is. It's also a great way to approach the day-to-day interactions we all encounter: say "God bless you" when someone sneezes, hold the door open for people, smile. Stay in shape. It's really not that hard to work out every once in a while or cut out the shit food in your diet. You'll be a much happier person if you're healthy. Listen to your elders. Although times and situations may change, the pattern of life remains the same. They've been through a lot of the same shit we go through daily. Even if what they have to say doesn't perfectly mesh with the situation you're in, chances are you can extrapolate and somehow apply their lesson to your life. Going off of what bug said, don't spend money you don't have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
podrido Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 if you never expect anything you will never be letdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbian bum Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 I am surviving very well except for the whole excesize part. Im a skinny kid and I eat well, but whenever i start and excercize plan i stick with it for a long while but then end up abandoning it cause i see no point in it, a month later i get mad cause i shoulkdnt of gave it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rip Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 what the fuck? all i need is unlimited cigs,mickeys,an mexican food, and a strap then il survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanity Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 Originally posted by bug 1. throw out your credit cards kids. it's the only way i have to mail order stuff.... and record stores in this town suck. here's my advice... a car is not a necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 when in doubt, fuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giving Tree Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 Originally posted by BitchAssSlut just give me a a massive bank account.... anna kournakova.. and a body dropped blazer.. and i'll be set. thats a weak fucking list of desires... just concidering selling my 2 cars for a escalade... HOLLA... maybe a ext if i can find it for the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeDaddy Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 f' survive lets start to revive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PAYROLL Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 its fucking ridiculous that you bitches need to figureout how to survive on graffiti message boards. with that being said, chances are you wont survive. at least i hope you dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effyoo Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 common sense 1.that being said, having a little common sense will help you out alot. If things don't seem right, get out. 2. Be it in a contract for an apartment or buying a used car, don't worry about pissing someone off who is only out to get your money (eg. shady used car salesman), if you are paying for something, you hold the power to walk away. In other words don't be a chump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBar Posted October 21, 2002 Author Share Posted October 21, 2002 Gentlemen, I Stand Corrected Looks like some of you have definately been schooled right. This is good stuff, and with the few (and expected) examples of not-able-to-be-serious-'cause-I'm-too-immature posts, I think some of the above are WORDS TO LIVE BY. The credit card thing--I agree, cut them all up but one, and PAY IT OFF EVERY MONTH LIKE CLOCKWORK. Don't get into that "minimum balance" deal. Chase Manhattan Vampire Bank of Global Hegemony will extend you credit until your eyes bleed. They really are the Devil, no shit. Cars--Again, I agree. I love cars, but they require a serious outlay of cash every month to keep them rolling, fueled, insured, etc., etc., etc. Here's a tip. DO YOUR OWN MECHANIC WORK. If you learn enough about automotive mechanics repair to work on your own vehicle, the mystery is decoded. I would recommend that everybody who wishes to own a car first go take a high-school or junior college-level auto mechanics' course. If you are too intimidated to do your own work, or if you hate getting greasy that much, seriously consider whether or not you really need a car. In a city like San Francisco or New York or Montreal, where there is an excellent public transit system, you probably don't need a car. But if you live in Houston or somewhere like South Dakota, you probably do. The whole "Treat people like you would like to be treated, but don't let people use you" is EXCELLENT advice. Try not to home in too hard on other people's shortcomings and personal foibles, either. You cannot control anybody but yourself, so quit trying. There's a good line from a country song "Go easy on the whiskey, and hard on yourself." This also is good advice. Set standards for yourself and meet those standards. You'll be happy you did so. This thread is doing great. Anybody else got any good Survival Skills to share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracked Ass Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 The credit card thing is huge - pay attention kids. Once you have the credit card lesson down, understand this: doing drugs is like getting pleasure on credit. You're going to have to pay later...and in this metaphor, "declaring bankruptcy" to avoid payment equals death. I'm not saying don't experiment with drugs. Just be aware of the risks, which aren't just death by OD or by accident while fucked up. Payment for drug-induced pleasure can include health problems, mental and emotional problems, depression, etc., especially for chronic or regular use. I dabbled in light and medium stuff, had some interesting experiences, and was careful not to overindulge, so payment for that stuff was minimal. The biggest debt I incurred was with alcohol, and that took two years to pay off...and I can see why a lot of people try to extend that credit line instead of facing the music. I left all that shit behind five years ago and now I have a positive balance, and I earn pleasure the real way, by accomplishing things that I find important, and savoring the small stuff that a lot of people ignore in favor of substance-induced thrills. I'm not preaching - just on the survival tips theme. I'm also on no sleep for a long time so I'm probably making less sense than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intangible Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 Dont think about it........and you wont have a problem with it.....every day will go by 5 days at a time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willy.wonka Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 out in the desert with no water??? and all you have is a coffie can and and a plastic tarp or saran wrap.. dig a whole at least 3 feet deep 3 feet wide..place coffie can in the center of hole..place tarp or saran wrap over the whole..allowing it to sink a little right above the can.. take a piss near the hole.. the sun will evaporate the water in your piss... the water will rise to the tarp and drip towrds the middle of the whole and into the can.. THE OUTCOME... fresh piss water to drink later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willy.wonka Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 KEEP A "POCKET PUSSY" ON YOU AT ALL TIMES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest duh-rye-won Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 carpe diem death is certain. faith is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amItoolate? Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 a necessity for us bastards keep in touch with yer momma, shes all youve ever had, and shell never steer you wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 no one owes you anything expect to work for what you get out of life, and work hard ...this includes sacrifice make goals for yourself and pursue them actively educate yourself, by school, reading, or being around those who know being generous with your time and resources but do not be taken advantage of be loyal to the people you love respect your parents stay away from cocaine and heroin suicide is not ever an answer credit cards are a mistake (bug, cracked etc, we know what we're talking about) always take care of yourself, know yourself, watch your own back, and know how to have a good time alone because tin the end, that's who you'll be left with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 oh yeah... expect the unexpected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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