Kults Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Quote It started when Webb wrote a series of three articles for the San Jose Mercury News in 1996 dubbed “Dark Alliance.” In his report, Webb — who had won a Pulitzer in 1989 for a different story — claimed that the CIA was partly responsible for bringing crack cocaine to the United States in the 1980s. Webb conducted a year-long investigation during which he discovered that a San Francisco-based drug ring, which had ties to a CIA-sponsored Nicaraguan contra group called the FDN, sold cocaine to a dealer in South Central Los Angeles. The millions of dollars made from those sales were later used to fund a secret war against the leftist Sandinista regime. In short, Webb accused the CIA of being complicit in getting thousands of poor African-Americans addicted to crack in order to fund rebels in Central America. Quote Webb committed suicide on December 10, 2004. The "Dark Alliance" series remains controversial. Critics view the series' claims as inaccurate or overstated, while supporters point to the results of a later CIA investigation as vindicating the series. Criticism has also been directed at the follow up reporting in the Los Angeles Times and other papers for focusing on problems in the series rather than re-examining the earlier CIA-Contra claims.[1] https://theintercept.com/2014/09/25/managing-nightmare-cia-media-destruction-gary-webb/ https://time.com/3482909/this-is-the-real-story-behind-kill-the-messenger/ https://www.thenation.com/article/new-york-times-wants-gary-webb-stay-dead/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb Relatively well known cover up, interesting story nonetheless 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Hell of a story, shows the worst of state power and an ends justifies means approach. Biggest respect for people who take on unwinnable battles like this. PS - fuck the intercept though. Greenwald is as full of shit as some of the arseholes he writes about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 You know thats just an alibi for slanging the rock. Also a fine example of why i believe protecting whistleblowers is paramount to our society's success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 27 minutes ago, Fist 666 said: Also a fine example of why i believe protecting whistleblowers is paramount to our society's success. Absolutely. Also why Assange is a dick for turning something as good as wikileaks into his own wankathon, (and to be too egotistical to know when he was being used as a pissing post by the big dogs) and why Greenwald is a cock for letting the Intercept be politicised. Whistleblowing is as important to democracy and keeping politicians honest as the fourth estate is itself. And I gotta say it, why you, @Kultswere a fool for posting the whistleblower's identity. Even if he was a political actor, his outing deters other whistleblowers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Let’s not rehash that but I think you’re an idiot for thinking it’s some kind of big secret when it was all over the surface web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Never said it was a secret, just that posting it was the opposite of encouraging whistleblowing and govt transparency. Speaking up against abuses of power should be encouraged, not punished by people pasting your face and name on the net and calling you a rat, which is what you did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 35 minutes ago, Hua Guofang said: Never said it was a secret, just that posting it was the opposite of encouraging whistleblowing and govt transparency. Speaking up against abuses of power should be encouraged, not punished by people pasting your face and name on the net and calling you a rat, which is what you did. Except it wasn’t that. It was a partisan shit show meant to be a setup. Can you not hijack this thread with that bullshit? There are three others you already leaked this into Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 That’s one of the main things I hated about Obama, he was the worst president on record when it came to protecting whistleblowers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILZ FILLZ Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 webb committed suicide by shooting himself in the head... twice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 How could anyone dispute that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Dunno. Maybe dig up the fors and againsts and we can work though it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hua Guofang said: Dunno. Maybe dig up the fors and againsts and we can work though it. For- You can’t shoot yourself in the head twice Against- But where’s my fake news source about it... *Hua.. probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Hahaha, you are so fucking internet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 The Sacremento Bee, known throughout the world for all their fake newsery!! Challenging assumptions, soooooo hard and, well, just don't do it!! Reporter's suicide confirmed by coroner A flood of inquiries about Gary Webb's shooting death prompts statement. By Sam Stanton -- Bee Staff Writer Published 2:15 am PST Wednesday, December 15, 2004 https://web.archive.org/web/20080507054818/http://dwb.sacbee.com/content/news/story/11772749p-12657577c.html Get weekday updates of Sacramento Bee headlines and breaking news. Sign up here. Print | E-Mail | Comments Facing a barrage of calls from the media and the public, the Sacramento County Coroner's Office issued a statement Tuesday confirming that former investigative reporter Gary Webb committed suicide with two gunshots to the head. "The cause of death was determined to be self-inflicted gunshot wounds to the head," the coroner's statement said. "Information and evidence gathered at the scene of death, including a handwritten note indicating an intention on the part of the decedent to take his own life, resulted in 'suicide' as the determined manner of death. "The investigation is continuing and will take an estimated additional six to eight weeks to complete." The statement was issued because of the number of calls that had flooded the Coroner's Office since The Bee reported Sunday that Webb's death was caused by more than one wound. Webb, a former San Jose Mercury News reporter, was found dead in his Carmichael home Friday morning. Webb, who most recently had been writing for the Sacramento News & Review, is survived by his ex-wife and three children. Such a case normally would have sparked little notice. But Webb gained notoriety in the 1990s after writing a series of stories for the Mercury News linking the CIA to Nicaraguan Contras seeking to overthrow the Sandinista government and to drug sales of crack cocaine flooding South Central Los Angeles in the 1980s. His newspaper and others later questioned the conclusions in Webb's reporting, and he left the San Jose newspaper in 1997 after being moved to a suburban bureau. But Webb's allegations spawned a following, including conspiracy theorists who have worked the Internet feverishly for days with notions that because Webb died from two gunshots he was killed by government agents or the Contras in retribution for the stories written nearly a decade ago. Webb's ex-wife, Sue Bell, discounted such theories Tuesday, saying the 49-year-old Webb had been distraught for some time over his inability to get a job at another major newspaper. "The way he was acting it would be hard for me to believe it was anything but suicide," Bell said. She said that before he died Webb wrote and mailed notes to family members and placed his baby shoes in his mother's shed. Webb had paid for his own cremation earlier in the year and had named Bell months ago as the beneficiary of his bank account, she said. He had sold his house last week, because he could no longer afford the mortgage, and was upset that his motorcycle had been stolen last week. He had apparently laid out his driver's license before taking his father's .38-caliber pistol, which he kept in his nightstand, to shoot himself. Coroner Robert Lyons said his office had been swamped with calls. "It's unusual in a suicide case to have two shots," he said, "but it has been done in the past, and it is in fact a distinct possibility." Services for Webb are pending. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Oh no, even the Trump-loving Intercept isn't claiming that he was offed by the CIA!!! https://theintercept.com/2014/09/25/managing-nightmare-cia-media-destruction-gary-webb/ Tell me these guys are fake news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Oh whoops!!! Seems like the first round may not have been fatal, went through his cheek. So he had to put another round through his brain to do the job. https://www.thenation.com/article/new-york-times-wants-gary-webb-stay-dead/ Oh no, same guy the Intercept relies on for their info explains why it took two shots to kill. Well shit, sucks when you can't fire from the hip, repeat some shit you heard from some guy you met once on the internet and act like you know shit without those meddling kids digging up info to make you look like a fucking mook! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Oh hei, even an independent news website that hates the MSM and thinks the US slid towards authoritarianism under Obama also states that the first shot was not fatal. https://consortiumnews.com/2011/12/09/the-warning-in-gary-webbs-death/ But fuck that, let's just jump to conclusions and make out that anyone who asks questions is just too stupid to jump to conclusions too. Good job, mook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 You’ve solved it Colombo!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Hua Guofang said: Hahaha, you are so fucking internet. Pulled your card didn’t I lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Hahaha, sorry to rain on your parade, mate. I know it's easy and comforting to believe whatever you hear but it's probably better to check for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 In saying all of this, the central point shouldn't be lost. The shit that was being pulled all over South America (and elsewhere) in the Cold War was horrible. Not that they were alone, though, Russia did just as bad, but they were a little more in your face about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hua Guofang said: Hahaha, sorry to rain on your parade, mate. I know it's easy and comforting to believe whatever you hear but it's probably better to check for yourself. You 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Hahahah, love it!! ^^^ I bet you leave the stickers on the brim Edited January 5, 2020 by Hua Guofang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I’d wear that hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Hua Guofang said: Hahahah, love it!! ^^^ Figured you would since it was made for 🤡 like you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, abrasivesaint said: I’d wear that hat. Hey look it’s the peanut gallery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Was i talking to you? No, I wasn’t. So keep it moving bub. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Jesus @Kultstake a break, dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hua Guofang said: Jesus @Kultstake a break, dude. No thanks @Hua GuofangYour fake news links are too riveting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Keep up the good work pal. Bang up job enticing people to stick around Raven’s forum. Chatting with you is a constant delight. Edited January 5, 2020 by abrasivesaint 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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