lord_casek Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 go figure. i started hanging out with her and then she stops arguing with me about politics! pffffffft did you give her an ak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 for me its hard to jump into discussion if you haven't been reading the thread since the beginning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the district Posted November 17, 2007 Author Share Posted November 17, 2007 It seems that comedy is the best technique to get people involved (or even start caring at all) into politics. i.e. bill maher and jon stewart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 bill maher is an inside job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 do you have any books that you would suggest? Anarchism & Other Essays - Emma Goldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracksmoka Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 i hate to say it, but the large majority of the people that look at this site could care less about any kind of tangible subject that actually has relevance in the real world. Im not knocking anyone but most people dont really (from what i percieve from my experience in the real world and countless forums/blogs of various subject matter) care enough about matters that dont relate to their daily lives, or have career's that are predicated on politics or the effects of the economy(that they are consciously aware of, obviously all business is tied in with the economy). They just either go to school cause they have to or go to work cause they have to. If ignorance is bliss, then i think the large majority of 12oz'ers are floating around in theyre own personal grafftopia... lol. Above mentioned and well spoken members notwithstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the district Posted November 17, 2007 Author Share Posted November 17, 2007 bill maher is an inside job Considering how he will not discuss the WTC's makes me suspicious.At the same time there is a ban on discussing explosives in the WTC's on clear channel.NPR is the only place it can be discussed in the mass media.I don't understand why he is always discussing democrats or republicans.Its the topics that count not the parties... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 no distinguishing lines between parties newscorp supports guiliani and hillary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILOTSMYBRAIN Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 i hate to say it, but the large majority of the people that look at this site could care less about any kind of tangible subject that actually has relevance in the real world. Im not knocking anyone but most people dont really (from what i percieve from my experience in the real world and countless forums/blogs of various subject matter) care enough about matters that dont relate to their daily lives, or have career's that are predicated on politics or the effects of the economy(that they are consciously aware of, obviously all business is tied in with the economy). They just either go to school cause they have to or go to work cause they have to. If ignorance is bliss, then i think the large majority of 12oz'ers are floating around in theyre own personal grafftopia... lol. Above mentioned and well spoken members notwithstanding. this guy knows what he's talking about. the majority of my friends when i bring shit like this up are like "whooo careees?". and i'm always just like, you will, soon. to be quite honest, this is also one of the only 2 sections i really look at on these forums. i will say in past years the discussions on the board were much more quality though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 the people who discuss things in crossfire are the open minded individuals who give a shit about the world they live in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.coma Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Anarchism & Other Essays - Emma Goldman good looks! also check out "how to smash everything" its got some good stuff about cointelpro style infiltration. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fist 666 Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 some of us are closed minded, but still care... but i don't really comment in here w/ any frequency, i usually end up getting pissed off at the australian's view of the US army and don't have the patience to type arguments or explanations. i like reading stuff in here though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcelain Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 i come in here and read all the time . i kinda got involved in "the discussion of the creator of the heavens and earth" thread. i like reading what people have to say. i always read Dawoods post word for word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Fuentes Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 It seems that comedy is the best technique to get people involved (or even start caring at all) into politics. i.e. bill ma her and Jon Stewart. i see it different, i see it as trying to make a joke out of real issues. for the people to have a laugh about it and ease the anger that the information causes. lack of seriousness from both hosts. lack of seriousness makes us all a bunch of clowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Clowns usually have more to say than the serious. Compare Jon Stewart to any "serious" news host. Who has more to say? At least clowns know they're funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smooth bruce Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 do you have any books that you would suggest? Anarchism & Other Essays - Emma Goldman That one ^ If you are strapped for cash... http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/anarchist_archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html And this isn't a book but I read it this week and it was interesting http://www.struggle.ws/rbr/rbr6/bakunin.html For stuff a little less heavy and a good introduction to the subject do a youtube search for chomsky - government of/in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveboxcars Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 ILB has made some good stops on through, i read a lot in here i just rarely post. i have a very short attention span and it is very hard for me to stick to a certain topic in the span of a paragraph or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracked Ass Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 I suffer from too much to say and not enough audience. Once in a while I'll try to launch something thought-provoking, or take a stand and back it up against various antagonists (re. my sparring with Dawood in the Creator thread). But it comes back to this: my arguments are deep and well-supported, consistent and clear, but it takes time to articulate them fully. They are also easy to attack if I try to pare them down to a "lite" version which is missing key logic or underpinnings. And if I go ahead anyway and exert all the effort to participate in here, I can already predict the reactions of the three people who care. So it seldom seems worth it to really rip on some debate. Especially when the topics that interest me are often less popular and sink down the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.crooked Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 "I can already predict the reactions of the three people who care... Especially when the topics that interest me are often less popular and sink down the list." yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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