seeking Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by MANIK DEK we wont have freedom till we have anarchy:dazed: right. we'll see how much 'spare change' freedom has for you shitty crust-punk ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 *damn... seeks beat me to it. Unless Anarchy comes with a good dental plan... I'd rather stick with a little structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Green Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 BASF yeah.. you basically got the jist of what i was hinting at. in some ways all of the modern liberties we think we are given turn out to be more creature comforts then true freedom.. And the term freedom is more rhetoric then practice. alot of people will automatically jump to saying we are peacekeepers and our soldiers are defending our freedom.. because.. thats what 'WE' apparently do.. 'WE' are the global police... the shepherds that can do no wrong... im going to re read this once im a bit more awake and possibly write a better response to clarify. dipshit-ola.... im so damn bonnie and clyde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Screw Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 so, um, what are we gonna do about it? I know! lets make endless threads about it! I mean someone's bound to notice...don't u think? George? Tony? U guys there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Screw Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 so, um, what are we gonna do about it? I know! lets make endless threads about it! I mean someone's bound to notice...don't u think? George? Tony? U guys there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANIK DEK Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by Kilo7- *damn... seeks beat me to it. Unless Anarchy comes with a good dental plan... I'd rather stick with a little structure. yea i dont really believe in true anarchy, but.............i dont know i have no point.... im just a confused youth being influenced by old school punk rock rebellion culture..........and i was trying to get my posts up:idea: :crazy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Green Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by Kilo7- *damn... seeks beat me to it. Unless Anarchy comes with a good dental plan... I'd rather stick with a little structure. true but canadians have better a medicaid system then americans. anarchy just sounds cool more Tayolr Stoehr - Decentralizing Power Paul Goodman- Communitas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 your honesty is commended. as a favor, let just inform now, before you take things too far.... the old 'needle-and-indian ink' A tattoo on your hand, between your thumb and first finger, is played out. so are dead kennedy's tatoos. seeks/been there, done that, making fun of you for still doing it tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Green Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 small scale thinking helps...community building helps.. not being completely apathetic helps.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_dowmagik Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 i can legally walk into a store holding a shotgun and buy some milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 i can have sex with your girl without either of us being legally stoned to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26SidedCube Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 I'm free to be arrested for a whole bunch of bullshit that affects no one but myself. You're free to struggle to get by if you don't aspire to spend your life at a job you could really give a fuck about if you don't already come from money. I dunno. I could really give a shit. I plan on living here long enough to take all the money I can out of the US and then ducking out to buy a castle in Romania with my 5'6", 125lb, all-natural 34D, Italian Lois Lane. 26SidedHustle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by Al Green true but canadians have better a medicaid system then americans. yes... however dental isn't covered. Medical is covered for everyone. You dont have to pay your doctor. Obviously not all procedures are covered (like cosmetic and elective surgeries) but we still have it way better than south of the border. On the otehr hand... If you need serious surgery asap, you're just going to the next place in line even if it's not soon enough. People in canada with money who need something done yesterday will just go to the states, pay the big bucks and be back in action the next day. A friends grandma needed something that she would have had to wait 6 months for to get it for free up here. 6 months wasn't quick enough and she probably would have died. So 20g's and a trip to Buffalo and she's all fixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_dowmagik Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by seeking i can have sex with your girl without either of us being legally stoned to death. especially since she turned 18 last week ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnomeToys Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Freedom of speech, press, and due process are being thrown to hell. In a recent example, a kid I know from Purdue was recently arrested along with this group: ST. PAUL: Terror patrol yields 'urban explorers' BY BILL GARDNER Pioneer Press It is the dead of night on a darkened street behind the Gopher State Ethanol plant in St. Paul, and six men dressed in dark clothing walk in single file. Clearly up to no good, thought a police officer who spotted them. The men were stopped and a backpack searched. It contained two-way radios, flashlights and night vision equipment. Police located the men's car and found rappelling equipment, a gas mask, more flashlights, radios, a 35mm camera, a first-aid kit, night vision binoculars and a notebook with directions to various tunnels in Stillwater, Duluth and Minneapolis. It was 1 a.m. Sunday on Erie Street. The nation was on high alert for terror activities. All six were arrested and booked for investigation of possible burglary and terrorism activities, St. Paul Police Department spokesman Paul Schnell said on Monday. Police eventually decided that the men were not terrorists, but not before checking them thoroughly. The men, varying in ages from 19 to 29, were questioned separately. "They were quite evasive initially," Schnell said. Eventually the men became more cooperative, Schnell said. "They indicated they were involved in urban exploration," he said. "One talked about looking at nearby caves." Police decided that while the men were not terrorists, they may have committed some crimes and held the men in jail Sunday and Monday. Authorities have until noon today to charge the men with a crime or release them, Schnell said. "It will not have anything to do with terrorism," Schnell said of the possible charges. "That was absolutely ruled out." Three of the men are from Wisconsin and the others are from Inver Grove Heights, Oakdale and Minneapolis. Urban explorers seek caves, old tunnels and abandoned buildings to explore. One such group, known as Action Squad: Minneapolis Urban Adventurers, has a Web site that details their activities, missions and code of conduct. It wasn't clear whether the men arrested have any connection with the Action Squad, but it seems likely they are engaged in similar activities. According to the Action Squad Web site, the group was formed on the University of Minnesota's Minneapolis campus in 1996. "In the years since, we have gained access to a staggering variety of tunnel systems, swam through drain systems, scaled the exteriors of buildings, waded through waist deep sewage, rappelled down and built ladders up vertical shafts, and snuck into the guts of inhabitated structures. Thus far, we have avoided apprehension, and no one has died." The Web site provides no names and is run by the Action Squad leader known as Max Action, who has appeared in various news media stories but always concealing his true identity. According to the Web site, Action Squad does this: "In a nutshell, Action Squad explores. This generally occurs late at night, to aid in avoiding other people, particularly those with badges and funny blue uniforms. We climb buildings, sneak into factories, crawl through all kinds of tunnels, spelunk old brewery caves, poke around abandoned buildings, and run across rooftops." The Web site says Action Squad is "a group of people in their early to mid-20s, ranging from conservatively-dressed law students to high school dropouts with Mohawks to grad students with Mohawks. What we have in common is the desire to get into places that people just don't normally go." But whether it's Max Action or Osama bin Laden, police are very serious about checking out suspicious activities that have the slightest appearance of terrorism, Schnell said. "These types of things are going to be taken extremely seriously," he said. http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/n...cal/7595294.htm What the article doesn't really mention, is that they were charged under the catch-all bullshit in the Patriot act and interrogated for around 48 hours by the FBI before they finally determined that a group of kids running around with flashlights wasn't a threat to homeland security. One freedom we do have is that to buy lots and lots of guns, legally. Even fully automatic weapons can be purchased without much problem by those with clear records after paying a $200.00 tax. I for one am proud of this freedom, because if nothing else it insures the entire country is more or less armed if King Bush II attempts to pull some full military state bullshit on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by GnomeToys I for one am proud of this freedom, because if nothing else it insures the entire country is more or less armed if King Bush II attempts to pull some full military state bullshit on us. I dont think it would work that way. Right now it seems that even questioning your 'president' will get you labeled as un-american. I might be wrong but it seems like most people are content to sit back and watch the superbowl while Bush and Co. sully up the American name around the world. As long as they keep taking little steps, no one is going to get outraged enough to do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26SidedCube Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by Kilo7- I dont think it would work that way. Right now it seems that even questioning your 'president' will get you labeled as un-american. I might be wrong but it seems like most people are content to sit back and watch the superbowl while Bush and Co. sully up the American name around the world. As long as they keep taking little steps, no one is going to get outraged enough to do anything about it. I'm outraged but powerless. You need funding to even begin to make the slightest difference on a grand scale... and even when that's put into practice, like seeking said, color changing bongs, rent, and stereo systems take presidence. Question voices are out there now-a-days, on a grand scale even. The Bill Mahers and John Stewarts do have a voice but it's seen as nothing more than comical idiosyncracies and synnicism (sp?).. nothing more than a passing Timothy Leary fascination for the public to use as a referance point to sound 'on the brink' in casual conversation... what it boils down to is that it's all bullshit, talk is only talk, and we're all fucked... so let's get busy destroying the human race quicker. I wanna see the fucking fireworks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Bill Maher got shit on for speaking his mind. He said that he felt it was cowardly to drop high altitude bombs on people in mud huts who ride goats and make less than 1$ US a week. He also said that the 9/11 hijackers wern't cowardly, 'evil' yes, 'cowardly' no. He caught hellfire for those ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 i dunno, i just want to shoot guns, drive above the speed limit, paint on things that aren't mine and be able to be drunk in public for long periods of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serum Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 living outside the US i am able to enjoy walking the streets at whatever hour and not getting stopped by police, not to mention hanging on a street corner with 10 of my friends and not be considered a street gang or told to disperse. drinking alcohol in public, on the train. being able to buy magic mushrooms at a head shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimsøn Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Originally posted by serum living outside the US i am able to enjoy walking the streets at whatever hour and not getting stopped by police, not to mention hanging on a street corner with 10 of my friends and not be considered a street gang or told to disperse. drinking alcohol in public, on the train. being able to buy magic mushrooms at a head shop. Now where is this magical adventure land? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimsøn Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Originally posted by serum living outside the US i am able to enjoy walking the streets at whatever hour and not getting stopped by police, not to mention hanging on a street corner with 10 of my friends and not be considered a street gang or told to disperse. drinking alcohol in public, on the train. being able to buy magic mushrooms at a head shop. Now where is this magical adventure land? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Quickwood Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Originally posted by Kilo7- He also said that the 9/11 hijackers wern't cowardly, 'evil' yes, 'cowardly' no. haha, i thought the same thing, i kept that one to myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 "It's just the same fascistic games, but the rules aren't clearly stated."- Crass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26SidedCube Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Originally posted by Kilo7- Bill Maher got shit on for speaking his mind. He said that he felt it was cowardly to drop high altitude bombs on people in mud huts who ride goats and make less than 1$ US a week. He also said that the 9/11 hijackers wern't cowardly, 'evil' yes, 'cowardly' no. He caught hellfire for those ones. yeah, he's on point.. and he's the lifelong bachelor. a-okay in my book. I bet dude gets tore-up and pounds tons of hooker ass on the reg. wordamouf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serum Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Originally posted by Crimsøn Now where is this magical adventure land? Nippon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phism Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Home.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Europe Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Like Seek said, America hasnt got shit on Scandinavia... Land of the free, baaahh... Still, beats living in North Korea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Originally posted by Europe Like Seek said, America hasnt got shit on Scandinavia... Land of the free, baaahh... Still, beats living in North Korea amen to that. considering in denmark you can legally buy beastiality porno (and in turn probably fuck a few animals yourself) they've got the monopoly on freedom. let's head to christiania and get a skoob, then nick off for a dirty pint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Green Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Originally posted by johnny i dunno, i just want to shoot guns, drive above the speed limit, paint on things that aren't mine and be able to be drunk in public for long periods of time. your not asking for enough.. get with the program or get out. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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