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This issue obviously doesn't get addressed often enough, because I keep hearing about dumb shit going down and spots getting blown. All the veteran heads can skip this thread, except to add any minor points to think about or incidents where violation of these concepts brought heat to them personally. Anyone fairly new to trains should listen up. I'm going to talk at length about a bunch of related points.

THE MAIN ISSUE.

The main issue here is longevity of chill spots to paint freights. Any sane writer who is not a malicious shithead must agree that keeping a chill spot to piece freights is a good thing. The primary thing that blows spots is letting people (rail workers, cops, joe hero who walks his dog near the tracks and hates "taggers") know that painting gets done at that spot.

WITNESSES.

SOME rail workers hate graff and will report a spot getting hit to superiors/railcops/regular police. SOME passerby civilians hate graff and will call the cops about it if they see it being done. ALL cops are obviously down to nail writers. So: a significant percentage of people who see freights being painted, or can tell from evidence that they were painted right there, will take action. Maybe it's only ten or twenty percent, but so what? Why take the chance? This means 1) strive to be seen by zero people and 2) leave NO evidence around the train you just painted to clue people in that it was painted THERE instead of rolling in from someplace else. (This seems pretty basic, but there are plenty of people on this board who don't grasp it yet.)

DON'T GET SEEN.

Again, pretty obvious right? Not to some. To avoid being seen, paint only in a spot screened from most directions by trees, buildings, etc. Do not paint standing on a live track, because another train or one of those quiet, fast utility trucks on train wheels could roll on you. Remember, EVEN IF YOU CAN GET AWAY SUCCESSFULLY, IF YOU GOT SPOTTED PAINTING, YOU ATTRACTED ATTENTION AND HEAT TO THE SPOT. That fucks it up for you, which is only as bad as you think it is, but if other people paint that spot, you have fucked it up for them too, and they will be pissed off, cross you out, beat your head in, etc.

HISTORY/SENIORITY

If you're new to trains, the thing you need to understand is that if you find a spot to paint them, it may already be a regular spot for other heads in your area. They don't want their spot blown. They will not even like you painting there at all, because you have yet to prove you're smart enough not to fuck up the spot with dumb behavior. Also, they may have set their own limits on how many cars they'll hit per line that gets parked there, because hitting several trains in a row is a big clue to workers that painting occurs right there. When you piece there, you are possibly fucking with their rhythm.

This is not to say, don't hit any freight spot without permission. But do 2 things: one, observe the "chillness" advice I'm dropping here; and two, if senior heads confront you about painting their spot, respect what they have to say, whether it's "find another spot" or "don't paint the track side" or "don't hit more than 2 cars per line". If you don't respect the heads who have been hitting that spot before you, then welcome to beef.

THE DON'TS.

DON'T paint several cars in a row, or tag or bomb whole lines. Workers know that trains are always getting broken up and rearranged, and the exact same artwork on many cars in a row gives away that it was done right there.

DON'T leave empty cans at the spot, or get lazy about tossing them just a few feet out of sight. They will be seen by workers and noted. Dead giveaway.

DON'T test out your paint on the rocks, wall, ground, or rails right by the train. Another dead giveaway that painting happens right there. (I test my caps/cans on some unrelated part of the SAME car I am painting: the wheels or suspension, a pipe that hangs down, whatever.)

DON'T tag or bomb the walls, buildings, electrical boxes, trees or anything else near the yard, tracks, layup or wherever, unless the area is already crushed anyway. Another dead giveaway.

DON'T leave any other evidence besides the piece you just painted. Take your dirty glove away with you, throw it away somewhere else. If a can gushed or dripped on the rocks by the track, toss those rocks away, bury them, scatter em around, whatever.

DON'T paint over the numbers on freights - weight limits, reporting marks, hazmat info, or the little black box which is usually near the right end of the car as viewed from the side. This doesn't necessarily give a clue as to where the car was painted, but makes workers more interested in busting someone's ass. It also forces the railroad company to take the car out of service long enough to get those numbers restamped back on there, they are required by law to have that info displayed, and if the costs of repainting numbers add up enough they'll hire more railroad security and put heat on everyone.

RECON.

One thing you should do after finding a spot, but before painting it, is go down there with no paint on you, scope out the whole area: trees, paths, fences, escape routes, and not just the physical layout but stay awhile and/or check in several times a week to find out when it gets switched, what time local businesses close for the night, when trains go by, stuff like that that clues you in to a good time/way to hit it up.

CONCLUSION.

The goal is to not let anyone know that trains get painted at a certain spot. You want workers to think that any pieces on that line rolled in from somewhere else. And even if you do everything right, and they smell the fresh paint of the pieces, you might be okay anyway because, since you stayed off the numbers, didn't leave cans for them to trip over, etc. they won't care enough to report it.

Following these fairly simple guidelines keeps spots chill, avoids beef, and extends the life of the freight scene.

have a question about "samller operations" the yard/layup in my area is a "fast frieght hub" its also on joint trackage... now ive seen workers and what i belive to be a bull...im still doing "recon" for the layup the yard is verry small only like 4 or 5 lines. however up the way a little bit the lines goes into another yard a bigger one, the lay up is located next to several industrial plants... but is in the middle of the woods and looks as if it cant be traveled by normal cars or even trucks...but ive also seen workers bieng picked up by people to take them further up the line....and ive actually been seen by workrs in the yard(which i dont plan on painting) while i was benching...they seemed nice enough...however if they knew why i was there im sure itd be a diffrent story....graff rolls through from everywhere so, im not so worried about people seing new stuff on trains...i dont think theyd know eithere way...its a realativly samll town and there are no other writers here....ive checked...now keeping your advice in mind... what actions do you think i should take to further safe guard my "spot" once all recon is done?

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dont leave yer trash in the yard or anything that lets workers know you were there. this includes painting objects near or around the yard. Im sure this has been stated numerous times. on a side note one time i found a syringe...if i see cans on the ground I pick them up...i left the syringe though. I agree with swindle, rolling nowhere def knows whats up. im jus a new jack.

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I really wanna go hit fr8s in this big yard that i live by but theres older doper heads that go there and i dont wanna get beat up and jacked for my paint

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^good move.my yard has been deserted by the old crew members and so i basicly have free reign.i do my best to keep it clean from scrap cans and keep the really toy reckless cats out.i mean im still toy myself but i bench freights alot so its kind of a way to preserve that.if the yard is hot the folks hassle me and when i do decide to paint there i cant.when its chill i can come down there more or less whenever and the engineers and the workers dont say much if i stay out of there way.its got no fence around the area so you can walk straight into it.i bench alot in the fall and summer when its got alot of action goin on.so far ive kept the wave of shitty writers out for the most part.so yeah.

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not doing graffiti on trains is the best way to keep spots chill honestly, but usually workers dont give a shit. Around here most of the people sneaking around the layups/yards are drunks and addicts so they generally pay no mind to litter or trespassers unless theyre obviously thieving or vandalizing. However, take it from someone who got arrested at an NS yard before (in the south), don't be dumb and don't get too drunk heheheh... Respect the rails and respect the culture!

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ok idk wher to ask this so ill put it here.. how exactly do you find a train yard? ive used google earth and found TONS of layups but when i go to check em out theyr always very active during the night time.. or theyre right in the middle of town or have a busy street running parallel to them.. ive asked the other writers around my area where they paint trains but they get all stingy and defensive and wont tell me.. i stay in northern california and i know there are yards around the bay and i have a feeling there might be a couple in the valley.. anyone wanna help me out?? how have you found your train yards??

 

1: first off.... if youre not capable of finding trains to paint...dont paint them. youre probally to retarded to mind your manners at a spot.

 

2: i see alot of posts in this thread about being able to just "walk right in" or "the workers are pretty cool".... thats retard talk also. engines, workers, fucking joe heroes, all are just one click away from the bull or a 911 call away from the cops. DONT GET SEEN BY ANYONE.

 

3: keep your paint in your bag at all times unless its in your hand. all it takes is for your clown ass to get spooked and your cans will be left in the yard while youre fleeing the scene. way to go asshole.

 

last week ive noticed 2 fuckin toys acting retarded at my spots. and now they are gonna pay. dont be that idiot. you might read all day about how to go about painting trains....but theres alot more that you young bucks just cant learn on the fucking internet, i.e. layup scheduals, worker routines, etc.

just stay the fuck away until you have a guide thats been around awhile.

 

p.s. your buddy that says he's been in the yard but doesnt do anything but throwups all day, ISNT an acceptable guide. chances are hes had his ass beat or is moments from it.

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still a virgin to the trains and wondered why you never painted on the numbers but Cracked Ass just cleared up abote all the questions i had thanks mate

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there used to be an chill yard in my neighborhood. it wasnt a train yard - it was just a big-ass wall. but then some new jack 3TKs burned the spot...they wrote on the walls and shit that faced the street and now the spot gets buffed constantly. Improper. way to go fuckers

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i use to live by train tracks and few times they stopped a car or two by my house. perfect spot cuz it was by woods and easy escape. plus no one even went there. if i woulda tried doin this stuff then. age 10, i woulda raped that car

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I was taught to always bring Grocery bags, masking tape, a pipe wrench and water. And it has saved my life in more than one occasion esspecially in big yards. Watch out for wild dogs and new regulations give yard bulls an option to have a canine unit, so that's not something you want to stumble upon. Spend weeks on a roof, or something with full view of the yard, to monitor the amount of workers and when they come and leave, you're going to want to write this down to make sure you've accounted for every hour of all 7 days of the week, and it usually changes every 4 months (seasonal). Wear worker clothing and a hat, so you don't stick out if civilians or workers do see you and you aren't aware. 50% of the times, workers or bulls have already notified police if they do approach you/spot you. So just fucking run. Don't wear Puma shoes to a yard, they kill your feet on the stone.

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