glorydays Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 this is some bullshit. Michael Avenatti is making a presidential bid using the same fucking tactics trumpito used to get into the white house. The fucking news channels are gassing this asshole up because "RATINGS" I am fully in the camp that the news doesn't really fucking care about what happens to the normal citizens in this country as long as they get a check out of it. Because as much as the news is fighting trump right now....theyre still cashing in on their confrontations with him its just money, money, money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Been saying for a while, everything's a story, and it's lame. Media outlets are more message/ideological delivery systems than conveyors of actual news and they manpulate people's emotions to do so. As far as this lawyer goes, haven't heard a ton about it but it fits the general pattern of anyone involved with the Trump train- ride the wave, cash in while you can, write a book or something about your experience. You're not going to see his name on a ballot come election time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorydays Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) @misteraven will say i told you so, but the media isnt just referring to the news commercials and "movements" paid for by PR groups who have industry clients manipulate the population by creating fake "grassroots" movements these fake movements are called "astroturfing"...cuz fake grass Edited August 14, 2018 by glorydays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Creepy porn lawyer..? Really..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 When you say that he’s using the same tactics as Trump, what tactics are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorydays Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Hua Guofang said: When you say that he’s using the same tactics as Trump, what tactics are you referring to? heavy heavy media presence, bombastic and outlandish statements and insults, and using "being an outsider is good" attitude to his speech he attacks trump and his camp as a way to connect with his base, just the same way trump did to his opponents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+plus+ Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 fuck yea lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 @misteraven will say i told you so, but the media isnt just referring to the news commercials and "movements" paid for by PR groups who have industry clients manipulate the population by creating fake "grassroots" movements these fake movements are called "astroturfing"...cuz fake grass Saw that the other day, was interesting. However, these are techniques that have been used for decades in our country and other countries, by our own country. It's being put more up front now as politicians have become more whiney, and sore losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorydays Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 politicians today are so fucking lazy that they have to pay for people to like them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 On 8/14/2018 at 4:19 PM, glorydays said: heavy heavy media presence, bombastic and outlandish statements and insults, and using "being an outsider is good" attitude to his speech he attacks trump and his camp as a way to connect with his base, just the same way trump did to his opponents I haven't paid that much attention to Avenatti but that's a pretty fair summary of what Trump did, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorydays Posted August 16, 2018 Author Share Posted August 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Hua Guofang said: I haven't paid that much attention to Avenatti but that's a pretty fair summary of what Trump did, no doubt. and its pretty much given that the guy needs to stay awaaaay from any kind of public service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnomeToys Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 On 8/14/2018 at 6:30 PM, One Man Banned said: @misteraven will say i told you so, but the media isnt just referring to the news commercials and "movements" paid for by PR groups who have industry clients manipulate the population by creating fake "grassroots" movements these fake movements are called "astroturfing"...cuz fake grass Saw that the other day, was interesting. However, these are techniques that have been used for decades in our country and other countries, by our own country. It's being put more up front now as politicians have become more whiney, and sore losers. Yep. Those tactics are part of the reason (aside from outright corporate association / bribery) that people say votes can be bought and sold. You can go create an actual movement, or you can use campaign funds to create one. I'm pretty sure everybody in politics does this to some extent. The ones who get elected definitely do, anyway. Trump's campaign honestly didn't change much from what he already knew from his business / pseudo-celebrity life: "Bad press is still press". I'm of the opinion that it worked (among other reasons) because the opposition was only prepared to fight standard political tactics and definitely not prepared for a world-class shitshow like that. It also worked well because a "normal" campaign is still just a slightly higher class shitshow. Sure enough, I search for Avenatti because I'm not very familiar with him, and some of the first things up is a news article centered around a tweet: Quote @RudyGiuliani Buckle Up Buttercup. You and your client completely misplayed this… — Michael Avenatti (@MichaelAvenatti) Oh goodie, right down to the "talk shit on twitter" angle. I'll pass on this mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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