geist Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Originally posted by porque@Apr 9 2005, 02:58 AM ...graffiti is not art...it never will be...it's just fuckin graffiti... ...that statement may piss some of you off, but it's true...one of the things i was trying to get across in the other thread is the huge difference between underground arts and Art...i have no idea what kind of 'concept' graffiti you're talking about, but if you're referring to people painting murals, than it's not graffiti, it's a mural...murals then relate to the history of mural painting, not graffit, wether they used spray paint or not... ...i'm kinda drunk...i'll finish my thoughts later... Quoted post You dumbass :haha: :haha: :haha: Maybe TAGS aren't art, but come the fuck on man, Graff is art - street art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 no, porque is right, sorry. the fact that you'd seperate tags from the rest of writing just further proves you have no clue what you're talking about. you should apologize for calling him a dumbass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzacFour Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Originally posted by seeking@Apr 14 2005, 12:01 AM no, porque is right, sorry. the fact that you'd seperate tags from the rest of writing just further proves you have no clue what you're talking about. you should apologize for calling him a dumbass. Quoted post Good call. Tags are very important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EViLPRiCK Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Don't get me wrong I love everything about looking at graffiti, but sometimes I feel like everythings been done already.. except for when it comes to tags and characters. tags just have so much aggression, so much style, and so much individuality behind them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8onus Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 this thread is flat, while some of the styles may be quite complex, the actual "concept" of graffiti is a lot simpler than some cats want it to be, you are putting your name on a wall, THAT is the fucking idea here, if a writer puts some deep meaning behind a peice then all the power to them, but it is still someone's name on a wall, and they are still on the same boat as the dude who does tags and fillins every night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bodice_ripper Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 I haven't read any particularly good argument for graffiti not being art on here. I know sometimes I'd like to think writing has nothing in common with art, but when I take step back and look at the bigger picture, not just the gallery bound post-post modern bullshit that is currently IT in art, I feel differently. I think writing is a folk art, with a focus on traditions, skills and productivity, rather than concept. I'm not certain why writers seem so eager to believe that graffiti exists in a bubble, untouched by outside influences and unlike anything else on earth....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fermentor666 Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Originally posted by bodice_ripper@May 2 2005, 09:18 AM I'm not certain why writers seem so eager to believe that graffiti exists in a bubble, untouched by outside influences and unlike anything else on earth....... Quoted post Because it helps to enforce the idea that they are unique individuals creating something that's never been done before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 You're talking about that guy that paints whales all over parking garages across america, arent you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 I hate talking about this shit. Just enjoy graffiti for what it is. Stupid fun. Does it need to be any more complicated than that? It's not exactly an intellectual pursuit. Some people say my own graffiti is conceptual and abstract, but I'm just doodling and painting for fun, really. It's not going to make me any money, in all likelihood, and I'm certainly not going to be remembered when I'm gone. 99.99999% of kids that paint are never going to make any impact besides maybe their local scene, and certainly not on the art world. Just enjoy it as a way to experience your life and stop trying to rationalize and dissect it. I get tired and depressed just thinking about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPORTO Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 YO Old G "I get tired and depressed" = time 2 get outa the rut Im's in the ditch 2, but negative energy (without sound'n like a fuck'n hippie) depleats your own system... Nows I think of it, maybes wihy Jasus inVENTed Graffiti DRUNK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINK DOT Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Originally posted by -Unztopbl750-@Apr 7 2005, 04:35 PM KRink is definitely clever, but I think it kind of defeats the point. Graffitti by its nature is meant to be sorta freeform, and selling people your custom ink is (in my opinion) just like licensing people to use your style. Better to tell people how to make the shit, and let them individualise it Quoted post not to tell you your opinion is wrong, but what is "the point". in my eyes graffiti or "getting up" is advertisement. so while KRink could have posters or ads, why not use your own product and show it to those who will use it. get right to the point ya know. with the amount of money one ad in a graffiti magazine would cost, you could have 1000 tags advertising your product for free? think what you want to think. im not stoping you, but your veiws were expresed and im just doing the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseguy Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 I'm not certain why writers seem so eager to believe that graffiti exists in a bubble, untouched by outside influences and unlike anything else on earth....... this is a fucking awesome point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumy Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 this thread..haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perhap Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by mr.yuck@May 9 2005, 05:17 PM You're talking about that guy that paints whales all over parking garages across america, arent you? Quoted post i drove past one today. endless conversation. graffiti is discounted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__ __ __ __ Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 DOPE... i like how it says "one" in the T's Shadow.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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