acer910 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 im assuming the mtn duplicolor isnt the same duplicolor as this right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 duplicolor is a larger german corporation and i believe that paint is made by the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 then im assuming duplicolor wasnt started as a couple of guys in their garage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreOne Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 the way i see it , the market is wiiiiiiiiide open in the u.s. for a cheap , good color, good coverage spray paint to take over ..its ashame a group of writers with good credit [lol] and a solid business plan cant get it together and do it..i was looking at some "blubber paint" http://www.blubbercolors.com/ .... shit is crazy overpriced though.. basically we are all fucked ..forced to pay thru the nose for european paint [unless your a primadonna...no names] ..or search for old krylons or rustos that may not even work .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICKERISH Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Injury, its Motip-Dupli that makes the German stuff. Two guys had the idea, paid for Motip-Dupli to produce it(and rip off spanish MTN), then distributed it on their own (L & G Distribution). I've since heard that the paint company bought the company out from the two partners - for a decent sum as well, after they saw the success of the product. The reason its in so many art stores is they sold to a distributor here who has his foot in the door with a lot of those art chains. Dupli-color here is a Sherwin Williams product. Very good points though. Plutonium G will never make it here because it is a domestic paint being sold for more than the much better imported products. I think they are going more for the art market and consumer segment, but they seem to have overspent for the packaging they're using. It was like they had a good idea, but went in the wrong direction with it. It just costs too much and isn't readily available enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICKERISH Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Pre, It costs a lot to start, the minimums are high, and most companies only want to sell you their lowest cost product and aren't willing to work on a better formula. The market is wide open for a company like Ironlak to step in - which it is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 ahh, damn, sorry for misleading y'all. thanks BMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 this is one of those pages that needs to be screencaptured and filed away for the next meltdown.overhaul... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreOne Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 ironlak...so far not a very friendly company imo ... and i used that paint in 30-40 degree weather and it was spitting like crazy ..not impressed with that at all ..i used watery ass krylon in the 20's and had less problems [but that was the 90s of course lol] .. but in the grand scheme of things ironlak is the move..price/quality wise .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..LAZRS... Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I dont get why people keep saying rusto is changing for the worse. All I use is usually rusto, the PT has nice colors and you can get female caps now from trout and even the stock tip is something akin to a decent fat cap. I havnt tried Ironlak yet, but from what I read and hear from people its a pretty solid paint for a good price. I plan on trying it when i get my money right. I doubt I'll ever rock the mtn or montana, 5+ a can is too expensive for me to order when i can just go grab some PT, AA or rusto. Same for Belton. I figure if I use ironlak for anything it will be a few colors supplementing my rusto, so I can get some nice colors. Though from what I read and hear, ironlak actually tries to listen to the consumers about anything they need to work on which is a great thing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 agreed lazrs. i'm not sure what dudes are talking about either... shit is still good to me. but what do i know. i used to live in ohio, and out there there was rusto, aa, old pt, even old krylon if you knew where to go, for days. the selection was crispy. i knew heads out there who would even then paint with fancy stuff just cause they could get it, which didnt make a lot of sense to me. then one time i finally gave in and got a few cans of PG (played myself...womp) and used it for a memorial wall and some other pieces. it came out fine but i probably won't do it again, just cause, in a way, i like having limitations. i'm also colorblind, so i feel bad buying rainbow paint when i can't see half the colors anyways :o . in a way, american paint picks the colors for me. har har. then again, i know dudes that won't paint unless they have lak or belton or MTN or what have you. this shit is all kinds of flavors now, it's up to you in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..LAZRS... Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 yea i can dig it, i only know of one store in the city i live that carries montana, and its 9 bones a can so ill never buy it. rusto/pt and aa have all the colors and work with all the tips i need. if i can still catch up on some ultra flat krylon ill use it, im down to my last can of ultra flat black and im hesitant to use it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 i dont think anyone said rusto was getting worse... i just said rusto is to blame for the new krylon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..LAZRS... Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I must have misread. What are peoples thoughts on Valspar? Its fairly watery, but the colors are nice. If you can depressurize it a bit it works fairly well. I've only used it on primed walls though, hows it on the steel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustofills Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Some Valspars or good. Most are not so good. You never get as much coverage even if you have a good solid Valspar color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Some Valspars or good. Most are not so good. You never get as much coverage even if you have a good solid Valspar color. this^ basically in my experiences any paint ive found to be a little "watery" and "okay" on primed walls wont be worth its weight in scrap metal on a freight with a not so perfect paint job. you could probly get away with it on those whitesides but not much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..LAZRS... Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 hmm, well ill try it and post the results. to be safe ill try it on a white hopper or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 hmm, well ill try it and post the results. to be safe ill try it on a white hopper or something try it on a hopper for sure, rusto industrial safety prange wont even cover in one coat on a rusty/peeling paint boxcar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..LAZRS... Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 yea i dont even fuck with that stuff, plus im not a huge fan of orange. its a once in a few months type shit for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1NSANE Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 my favorite graffiti colors are green, red and black :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustofills Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 What the fuck. Who cares? Wrong thread man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 with the quickness^ im just a fan of over 600ml for under 5 dollars plus the store i get it from usually just stocks black white chrome and orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 my favorite graffiti colors are green, red and black :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustofills Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 To bad this wasnt for a good color. http://cgi.ebay.com/2000-cans-of-Krylon-Industrial-Inverted-Orange-Paint_W0QQitemZ250525884104QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a54819ec8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustofills Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 This ones a good laugh. http://cgi.ebay.com/CHRIS-NYC-SPRAY-PAINT-CAN-RARE-ORIGINAL-ART-FOLK-POP-CA_W0QQitemZ110445052845QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_Paintings?hash=item19b709c3ad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugene Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 the MICHAELS store by my house finally stopped carrying krylon and now they got valspar, so i sticked up a lil today hehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustofills Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 the ********* store by my house finally stopped carrying krylon and now they got valspar, so i sticked up a lil today hehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 i may have talked trash about rusto gold in the past? i take that back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 foreal? ive never used their gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustofills Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Rusto gold is top notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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